IU in “substantial agreement” with NCAA findings

Indiana University released its response to the NCAA’s letter of allegation about an hour ago.

The document, which is 756 pages long, says, essentially: We agree.

Here’s the introductory paragraph of the response.

“Based on the information, including documentary evidence and interview testimony, obtained from the thorough investigations conducted first by the University and then subsequently by the NCAA Enforcement Staff in cooperation with Indiana University, the University is in substantial agreement with the facts set forth in the Notice and concurs violations occurred, as set forth below in the response to each allegation.”

The response goes on to say that “it is reasonable to conclude” that Sampson misled both university and NCAA investigators.

IU places blame entirely on the basketball staff, saying that their failure to properly document all recruiting calls made it impossible for the compliance office to detect the violations as they occurred.

Though Indiana is concurring with the NCAA’s contention that the men’s basketball program committed “major” violations, the school considers its self-sanctions — which were imposed last fall when the school categorized the violations as secondary — strong enough punishment.

The university also discusses its decision to soften its original self-sanctions by giving Tom Crean 10 days to recruit on the road and allowing the basketball team to conduct two official visits. IU’s decision was made, according to the response, because the original sanctions “were going to have far greater detrimental and harmful impacts than were anticipated upon their imposition last fall.”

15 comments

  1. I would think IU would be able to escape this without another penalty, and if there is one it wouldn’t be a loss of a scholarship. Thats just me though – we fired the coach and are now throwing ourselves at the mercy of the NCAA. This puts us one step closer to this story dying once in for all I hope

  2. Ricky,
    I hope you’re right and I think you are. Surely between not trying to defend ourselves and ridding ourselves of the violators, we’ll get some leniency. Plus IU has never been in trouble before, at least not in modern times, so it’s not like we have a record of violations working against us. And Crean had an excellent record at Marquette and apprenticed with Tom Izzo, who runs a clean ship.

  3. A few to many cell calls and its the end of the world… USC [& Co.] continues to plug along w/no penalties or even allegations. Of course if the NCAA did anything w/ OJ M. then all the stuff/money,gifts and what not/ then they would need to look in to all the money that flows through a typical AAU weekend like last weekend here at bloomington, or where ever they go to.

  4. I still will not forgive IU for paying Sampson 750K when he should have been fired for cause. Let’s hope this is the last in a long line of bad decisions.

  5. Dread
    If they hadn’t made the 750k deal then after this process is over and IU is only dealt with by the NCAA , not KS, then KS comes back and sues IU for say 2.4m say like Jim o’brien got from OSU. Time has already shown 750k was a good deal. Maybe KS can sue the NCAA for more money.

  6. How USC gets by with murder is beyond me, and we just make phone calls and go through all of this… But I do wonder where all the Sampson supporters (Chris) are right now. The do seem to be silent…..

  7. bhss73,

    Did you just call me a Sampson supporter? I’ve been called many things by readers — most of them unprintable on a family blog — but this is a first.

    I hope that I was fair. That was always my goal.

    But I’m about 99 percent certain that Kelvin Sampson does not consider me a supporter. He and I rarely got along, which I believe was caused precisely because I was not enough of a supporter of the program (though I never really got an explanation from him for his distaste.)

    Anyway, I’m curious as to what would make you call me that.

  8. Doug,

    You must be out of your mind! A 750K payoff is just that a payoff!! It’s morally and ethically wrong! IU had Sampson by the short hairs and should have kept him their. He is and was a pathetic piece of garbage. You should be the next IU President, he seems to think money grows on trees and ethics don’t matter! It was another IU Pres that allowed this idiot to be hired in the first place. You’ll fit right in…

  9. BacktoBasics (and others) – I just want to be clear: the Doug commenting on this post is a different one than the Doug who works for the H-T and the Hoosier Scoop. I’m always a little uncomfortable when there’s other Doug’s or Chris’s here and people may think it’s us so maybe I’ll change my name on here to Doug W. or something like that.

    Doug Wilson

  10. Don’t know what you IU reporters did to tick off Sampson or why he might have been difficult to work with. He had a great working relationship with the media in OKC/Norman area. In fact, two print journalists and two radio personalities were discussing just the other day on WWLS 640 AM in OKC that Kelvin Sampson was a great coach to work with as a member of the media.

    I’ve always found Coach Sampson very easy to deal with myself — although I’m not a member of the media.

    Maybe you all didn’t approach him in the right way or wrote something that wasn’t true. Who knows. But looks like you guys are in the minority of the media who don’t get along with KS. I’ve talked to multiple people in the national media who really appreciate how easy it is to work with KS.

  11. I agree with pretty much everyone… Kelvin Sampson looks like a saint compared to anyone in the USC program… How have they gotten away with all this stuff with no penalty????? No loss of scholarship, no post-season ban, no self-imposed penalties, no nothing!! It seems like the NCAA has much bigger fish to fry than IU.

  12. HoosierFan,

    As I said originally, I’m not sure what caused the rift with Sampson.

    But I would think if we wrote something that “wasn’t true,” as you suggested, he would have pointed that out. Or someone would have pointed it out. Newspapers happily print corrections all the time.

    So maybe it was our approach. We certainly were *there* a lot more than Sampson was accustomed to, given that we’re the paper of record in a town obsessed with basketball.

    You’re also right that Sampson could be as easy to deal with as he wanted. You’ll get no argument from me there. He is a charming, interesting guy.

    I just wasn’t about to change the way I do my job — because I believe strongly that we do it the right way — just so I could avoid angry Kelvin.

  13. Backtobasics
    You are missing the point! Yes he probably is deplete of ethics, but due process had not been done yet or now. It is still to come and the Fan base which probably includes you wanted him gone now as does the NCAA. That’s the way the NCAA works. Push member institutions in to bad decisions or the thought of much harsher penalties. The longer IU holds on to him the worst the penalties. So to satisfy the NCAA [especially] and the screaming fans you get him to agree to what you can and move on. THE payoff was better than firing him now and through the lack of due process KS ends up still on the IU tit for yrs. to come. Money doesn’t grow on trees your right, and 2/3rds of it came from an outside source. So 250k is a pretty good deal. Seeing how all the other coaches semi-involved got at least half that amount to walk.
    Doug T

  14. bhss73,

    Did you just call me a Sampson supporter? I’ve been called many things by readers — most of them unprintable on a family blog — but this is a first.

    I hope that I was fair. That was always my goal.

    But I’m about 99 percent certain that Kelvin Sampson does not consider me a supporter. He and I rarely got along, which I believe was caused precisely because I was not enough of a supporter of the program (though I never really got an explanation from him for his distaste.)

    Anyway, I’m curious as to what would make you call me that.

    Well my memory is getting old… I could have sworn that you didnt want to throw Cellvin under the bus cuz you thought it was no big deal and that he should have been allowed to finish out his contract….

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