IU In-State Recruit Watch: Matt Carlino and Marquis Teague

Before even discussing what Marquis Teague and Matt Carlino did Friday night at South, this point must be made. Erik Fromm was the most dominant player on the floor. Granted, while Teague and Carlino in some ways cancelled each other out, Pike had absolutely no way to counter Fromm. Still 26 points and 17 rebounds is more than a little bit dominant, and is the biggest reason why South won 66-55.

So now that that’s out of the way, there’s the marquee matchup of the evening.

By watching these two Friday night, you can sort of see why both are in the position they’re in. Teague is the No. 2 rated player in the class of 2011 because his ceiling is really high. His court vision is brilliant, his handle is tremendous, and when he takes the ball into the lane, there’s not a shot he can’t make. As good as Teague is, he has nowhere near the weapons that Carlino has at his disposal. That frustrates him and forces him to take some shots that are out of his range, and by going 0-for-4 from beyond the arc, he showed that threes are still beyond his range.He also struggles at the free throw line, making just one of his four attempts from the line.

Teague was better defensively than he was the last time I saw him against North Central in November. He still wasn’t great, but he was at least active and didn’t get himself into foul trouble. He at least seemed like he wanted to be a part of the defense, and that’s an important half of the battle for him. But what he can do with the ball in his hand is still his meal ticket. He finished with 15 points and six assists.

“He’s very quick and strong,” Carlino said. “That’s his biggest strengths. He showed that in the third quarter when he pretty much went on a run by himself. That was pretty impressive.”

Teague remained non-committal about his recruitment. He said he’s going to wait until the season is over, then make his decision. He hopes to commit before the summer. The list, he said, is still the same, including Indiana, Louisville, Kentucky, Ohio State, Purdue and Cincinnati.

Though Louisville and Kentucky are widely considered the favorites, IU is still hanging around despite the bumps in the rebuilding process.

“They’re one of my tops,” he said. “… I’ve been at a lot at IU games. Every game, no matter who they play, it’s sold out, no matter what their record. And that’s great. I love the crowd, all that. … I know what IU’s gonna be in the future. I know what they’ve got coming. I know right now, they’re just building it up. He just came in and he’s trying to build up the program. I know what they’ve got coming, so it’s gonna be a great school in the future.”

As a verbal commitment to Indiana, Carlino is one of the players Crean has got coming, and he showed again that he can be a valuable piece. His ceiling isn’t as high as Teague’s. He doesn’t have quite the handle and he doesn’t make quite as many highlight real passes. But there are ways in which he is more versatile. He knocked down two crucial 3-pointers in the game, showing range that Teague doesn’t have. His athleticism is very impressive, and he rebounds very well for a guard, grabbing seven rebounds to go with 14 points.

Carlino isn’t required to do nearly as much as Teague, because he has another point guard who is as talented if not more so in Dee Davis. But he can pass it and he can take it to the rack with ease. He made what was unquestionably the move of the night in the second quarter when he went to the lane dribbling the ball behind his back and then between his legs before finishing a layup.

“I do that play in practice sometimes,” he said. “It’s just instinct. I was mad I didn’t dunk it though, because the crowd’s always getting on me for not dunking it.”

AUDIO: Marquis Teague talks about his play and his recruitment

AUDIO: Matt Carlino talks about playing Teague and South’s win


  1. In what I took to be a reference to future players, Teague said he knows what we’ve got coming. I wish he would share. I’d like to know. Zeller? Plumlee? Jeremiah Davis? Patterson? Dawsen? Himself? Help me out Marquis, help me out.

  2. I’m not going to rip Teague on here too much, but after watching him tonight, he has a LONG way to go before I would ever want to see him in an IU Jersey. He is very whiny, and when he is getting out played it gets deep in his head.

    He makes bone head plays, and done things tonight that could have resulted in intentional fouls if the officials were paying attention.

    He is extremely fast and talented, and Dustin is right, the sky is the limit for him. However he needs a major attitude adjustment. This is only the 2nd time I have watched him play, both times were against South and they were in his head. Both times he got frustrated and let it show.

    That said, Fromm was a BEAST!

  3. Wait, Erik Fromm is a Butler recruit, no? That’s a great pickup for the Bulldogs. They’re not slipping back in the pack anytime soon.

  4. There was a game early in the year that was broadcasted on TV here in Kokomo. It was BSHS against Martinsville, I think. It was a rival game. Anyway there was a kid from Martinsville that was really good, he definitely shined through, but the other kid that caught my eye was this big kid (number 4 I believe) from BSHS. This has got to be this Erik Fromm kid. How the bigger schools let him slip away is beyond me. This kid has great size, very athletic, just looks like a ballplayer. Oh well, maybe he is just bound and determined to go to Butler, but this kid could of played at any school for sure. Thanks again Dustin for the great news as usual!!!!

  5. Mike P, really the kid is in high school. Im sure he is very competitive and hates to loose. I will take his extreme competitiveness in an IU uni any day over passing on him cause darnit, he’s just got a bad attitude. Im sure Louisville, will be able to work with the “whiney attitude” just fine!!!

  6. It is darned enjoyable having observers of Indiana HS BB games come on here and post. The good thing is very little is said about a coach being out of his league or that a poster is lamebrain. Comments relevant to a players strengths/weaknesses of play in a recent performance are refreshing because everyone has a little different flavor about what they saw. Good thoughts, writing and formatting of the article by Dustin.

  7. RHF,

    Fromm had scholarship offers from William & Mary and IPFW before his junior year. After his junior year, he picked up offers (in a matter of weeks) from Evansville, Wright State, Ohio, Miami (Ohio) and Rice. When Butler offered though, he committed very quickly and said it was everything he wanted.
    The biggest thing I’ve seen in Fromm is that he keeps getting better.

  8. So Hugh with that being said, do you think kids sometimes commit too early?? Especially a kid that continues to get better and better and all the while his stock continues to rise. Yea, a kid can retract/decommit but its really a pain. I’m starting to respectfully get impatient with some of the kids that haven’t yet signed, just want to see where they end up going. Or do you think it gives kids like Carlino, Etherington, Frumm an advantage cause they can be more prepared as they make that transition from high school to college???? Mo Creek for example was a little behind because of his late start.

    On the other hand kids like Selby, Teague, B. Knight (even though IU is not in the mix, still interested to know), and others may possibly be making a good decisions by waiting if they aren’t yet ready to make that commitment. So, do you feel its an advantage or disadvantage??

    Question #2 Do you think its a curse or blessing when trying to recruit kids from Indiana if your TC or Matt Painter??? Now a days with the internet and all the small communication devices I feel kids want to travel, leave home, kind of get away. Opposed to 20 or even 15 years ago when it seemed like home was the option kids wanted to make. Even though it was only Bloomington it was leaving home, now it seems like Bloomington is there back yard and the backyard is boring — I think I’ll walk down the street and check out the other neighborhoods…..

  9. Mike P you’re crazy if you don’t want Teague in an IU jersey. With a strong coach like Coach Crean he will develop his character and will push him to new heights. Teague is a can’t miss prospect. It is unbelievable to think people wouldn’t want a local kid as good as he is to be at IU. Especially considering how bad this team needs a stud player to help them get out of scoring droughts.

  10. Sean & RHF please learn reading comprehension. I said he has a long way to go before I want to see him wearing an IU jersey. He needs to control his temper, not throw elbows and shoulders when he is getting handled. What I seen last night was an incredible athlete that is not very fundamental.

    I never said I didn’t want him at IU. I just don’t want what I seen from him last night at IU, and that was 100% his attitude and lack of control of his emotions. Don’t come at me and say it’s because he is still young, he was playing against kids the same age who kept there cool when he was throwing elbows and shoving them in the back!

  11. Guys, I am with MikeP while I would love for Teague to play for IU he does need some discipline to his game. He was the same way last year when he went against Hulls. When Jordan started hitting shots against him and he missed he got a nasty mean streak and had to come out of the game so the coach could talk to him. He is going to be a great talent once his maturity level catches up with his basketball skills. He need to keep the other team out of his head and focus on the game. I heard about the same thing from some AAU coaches last summer so it is an on going thing. The good new is Coach could get him past it if he comes to IU. We want him at IU!

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