Letter from Glass to Barnhart shows Kentucky rejected Indiana’s recent compromise proposal to revive series

After announcing earlier this month that the heated border rivalry would not continue this season, Indiana re-opened negotiations with Kentucky on May 10 by proposing a compromise that would allow for two years of neutral site games followed by two games on campus sites.

Kentucky rejected that proposal last week, however, according to a letter from Indiana athletic director Fred Glass to Kentucky athletic director Mitch Barnhart. The letter was provided to the Herald-Times pursuant to a public records request asking for all correspondence related to the series.

In the letter, Glass detailed all of the negotiations in the attempt to revive the series since it was publicly declared dead on May 3. Glass said that Indiana had indicated that it would be willing to play at Lucas Oil Stadium in December of 2012 and 2013, “consistent with Coach (John) Calipari’s previous offer to do so.” The series would then be moved to Rupp Arena for the 2014 game and Assembly Hall for the 2015 game. Glass said that was acceptable to Indiana because it would allow the freshman class that arrives next year to see at least one game on campus in their four-year careers.

“We were trying to find something that worked well for everyone,” Glass said by phone. “That was a suggestion that a number of people had written in to me had made. That four-year plan struck me as a fairly good idea. We reached out in the spirit of compromise to save the series and to save the ability for our students to see at least one Indiana-Kentucky game on campus in their tenure.”

Glass said both in the letter and by phone that Indiana tried to make several other concessions to Kentucky to ease some of their logistical concerns. Kentucky had scheduled a game with Portland on Dec. 8 — the second Saturday in December when the IU-Kentucky game is traditionally played. Breaking the contract with Portland required a $100,000 buyout, but Glass said in the letter and by phone that Indiana offered to pay half of that buyout to make it work. The letter also said that Indiana was willing to move this year’s game to Dec. 22 and move a conflicting game the Hoosiers had scheduled to make that possible.

Glass said that he and Barnhart had several phone conversations and that they were involved in a conference call that also included several other administrators in both athletic departments. However, on May 23, Kentucky coach John Calipari made a scheduling related post on his blog that discussed the revival of the Wildcats’ series with North Carolina and his attempts to begin a series at neutral sites with Duke. Glass said he called Barnhart to find out if that meant that negotiations were off. According to the letter, IU assistant athletic director Jayd Grossman received a call from Kentucky executive associate athletics director DeWayne Peevy saying that Kentucky would refuse a contract lasting more than two years.

“In other words,” Glass said in the letter, “we were back to Kentucky’s take it or leave it demand that we play on a neutral court with no opportunities to play on our campuses in front of our students and other season ticket-holders.”

Glass said he was disappointed that the series could not be worked out, though not upset that Calipari and Kentucky are continuing to pursue a “non-traditional” scheduling format.

“I think Coach Calipari is an excellent coach,” Glass said. “… It’s their sovereign right to schedule as they see fit. But we proposed a serious compromise that seemed workable to everyone. We can’t accept a one-sided, take-it-or-leave-it ultimatum that freezes out our students and our season-ticket holders.”

Kentucky’s media relations department did not immediately respond to a call seeking comment.

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  1. We did more here than needed to be done to try and make it work. If they dont want it then let them continue to burn in the media. I hope it gets out that we tried again and the response we got. Whomever the next coach is at UK in a few years will revisit this I guarantee it.

    In the meantime UK can suck on our success in the coming years and enjoy their Duke/UNC games. Guess a border war game against the #1 team in the country wasnt “non-traditional” enough for them. What a joke.

  2. #1 team in the country?!?! Ha – in a meaningless, pre-season poll. IU is a joke and has been for 10+ years. Who won the national title this year, IU? NOPE! UK is at the top of the college basketball world, therefore you do what they want or take your ball and go home. Deal with it classless IU hoosiers.

  3. This ky hubris will work in our favor in a few years when they have to forfeit the Calipari seasons. We would have won the majority of the games in those years anyway, but those wins might have looked tainted because they would have ‘lost’ (forfeited) games to Austin Peay, Transylvania, and everyone else on their schedules in those years. Now, we can move on to playing teams that don’t carry quite the stench that rubs off on anyone who will play the Big Blew during the coming years.

  4. UK has stuck with IU while they have been a complete joke and disgrace the last 10 seasons or so. Now, UK wanted to shorten the contracts to two year neutral site agreements (where they had been played for 20+ years) and IU said no. This isn’t all on UK, if IU wanted this game as bad as they are acting they good easily have agreed to two years in their backyard!

  5. I’m not sure why Kentucky turned down the 4 year proposal, it isn’t like Calipari is likely to still be the coach in 4 years. NBA money or more likely a looming NCAA investigation will have Calipari running.

  6. Yawn. IU has one sweet-16 run and they go and get all uppity. UK has no obligation to play IU. I would much rather play games against Duke/UNC or in large events like the Dallas Cowboys stadium.

  7. After IU ended negotiations UK added Baylor @ the Cowboys stadium and announced that their Big East Challange opponent will no longer be Georgetown (Most likely ND @ Lucas Oil Stadium). UK moved on after IU quit negotiations and had sent out a news release saying the series was over. Its not Calipari’s fault that he scheduled new opponents and then IU came running back like a crazed ex girlfriend.

  8. This is the definition of a nutty ex who acts tough and calls it off and then whines and cries when they aren’t taken back after they realize the stupid mistake they made. UK moved on, IU should as well.

  9. If IU was still interested in sending proposals to keep the series alive, then why did they make a public announcement that they were cancelling the series?

    It’s a shame though, IU was just getting off of probation. Probation for cheating. Cheating to get recruits. Then cheating again just last year to try and get Gary Harris. But like a wise man once said…. “If [watching UK win the national championship] is inevitable, why not just lay back and enjoy it?”

  10. Classless? Ha, what a joke. UK fans will find anyway to paint the Hoosiers bad. And so what that IU is a potential preseason rank of 1? How many times has UK been a preseason rank of 1 and fallen short, plenty I am sure.

    And no, Hal, Just because UK is at the “top of the basketball world” does not mean we take or leave what they give. This here is America where we have the freedom of choice and can discuss and make concessions, something that IU did quite a bit of considering the article. This is not Communist China where we all have to do as “Those at the top of the world” say we have to. This is the land of the free and the home of the brave and I am not going to sit here while you bad mouth The United States of America! Good Day

  11. UK doesn’t want to play IU. UK is throwing up demands and negotiating with the take-it-or-leave-it attitude because they simply don’t WANT to play us. Whether they’re afraid or don’t believe they can beat IU, who knows, but it’s the simple truth. It has nothing to do with that “non traditional scheduling” bs or the safety of their fans.

  12. Excellent story!! Great use of the FOI…awesome weapon isn’t it? Everything, even ‘note to self’, meetings of committees, personal inter-office exchanges (I believe only personal personnel private matters are out-of-bounds) is fair game under the FOIA. Great, great job Dustin!!!

  13. Kaintuck shirked away with their tails between their legs. There is no other way to spin it no matter how hard they might try. Everything Slimeapari accomplishes will be vacated, as it always is, and Kaintuck will continue to be the sleazebag of college basketball.

    Some things never change

  14. The truth of the matter is most Kentucky fans simply don’t care about this rivalry as much as IU fans. I’m a UK season ticket holder. The schedule Cal is talking about will actually take some good games from Rupp – but it will help our young teams in the long run.

    What we are most interested in in KY is why the IU fans are so upset about it. Schedule Kansas, UNC, Syracuse, Duke; anyone you want. We are hardly the only tradition rich school in the country and others might be more willing to do home and home. Other than your students nearly trampling Miller and Lamb, we have no problem with IU. We just can’t figure out why you’re so concerned with us? Please understand, UL has been and always will be our biggest rival.

  15. The sovereign state of Kentucky has exerted its sovereign rights to have its sovereign University of Kentucky through its sovereign Secretary of Cali Pari, John Barnhart genuflex (bending at least one knee to the ground, from early times a gesture of deep submission for a superior), in the presence of its Master and Emperor John Calipari.(Lick,… lick,… kiss hand,… kiss ____…(sound of puckering lips).

    Glass did made the proper and dignified decision. The only thing I would disagree with is Glass’ quote: “I think Coach Cali pari is an excellent coach.” That presumes that Cali Pari may be technically an excellent coach (entirely possible); but it also presumes that ‘Merda’ Cali Pari (use translator from Italian to English) abides by NCAA rules, complies with the ethical demands and imperatives of his profession, does not cheat, and guides himself by the general spirit and intent of the rules over Div. 1 intercollegiate competition. Merda Cali Pari could give a rats a__ about helping the disenfranchised, underprivileged and victimized in the sovereign (but high school basketball challenged) state of Kentucky (or anywhere else, for that matter) receive an educational opportunity to improve themselves.

  16. What is wrong with pUKe? The should salivate at the notion to beat IU at both campuses and both neutral sites. Where is their competitive zeal? They are afraid of a 4 year contract. Is there something looming in the background they see coming? Must be something big.

  17. Cell Phone – who is so insecure that their team won the title and they still feel the need to troll another team’s fanblog? That would be you. You are an insecure man.

  18. “Cal is SCARED.
    If you’re scared, SAY YOUR SCARED !”

    Excellent grammar. You got it right once, and then almost got it the second time. Apostrophes are hard. The only fear UK has is that we might run out of space on our trophy shelf. As for NCAA violations, IU is more of an expert there with their recent probation and recruiting violations.

  19. I could care less if we never play UK again during the regular season. If they get in our way during the NCAA tournament, then so be it. We will take care of them then. Go Hoosiers!

  20. I don’t understand the Hoosier’s position in this matter. UK believes it is in a position to no longer play non-conference games on the road (with a few exceptions- Louisville and apparently UNC, a fan favorite in Lexington, KY). So UK has the option of making other teams come to Rupp only or play them in a neutral setting, ala Duke and Baylor at the Cowboys’ stadium. The latter are big money, national TV events. They bring a lot of exposure on a national level and provide the experience of playing in a dome for the players.

    Enter IU- a team that UK fans like to play but clearly don’t feel are on the level of UNC or UL. UK tells IU, we can still play, IN YOUR BACKYARD, but at a neutral site where we can both make more money. IU says No. Fine. That is IU prerogative. But stop the whining. We offered to play you in your backyard, EVERY YEAR. And you wouldn’t take it. Yet you will play other teams on neutral floors that will never come to Bloomington. But not UK. Again, fine. Just stop whining.

  21. On May 3, 2012 Indiana announced that negotiations had broken off with UK to continue playing this great rivalry game.

    Indiana clearly laid the blame at UK for want to resume the series on a neutral court basis–including playing two games in Indianapolis.

    IU refused this two year deal and very publicly said UK was to blame. UK athletic director Mitch Barnhart said he was taken off guard by the very public ending of negotiations.

    Now we learn that a week later IU came to the table hoping to play the game. Indiana was so willing to play UK that it was open to paying $50,000 to Portland and work with Samford to clear UK’s schedule.

    Sounds like Indiana bluffed and as UK clearly was adding other big name schools, came back to the table.

    However by trying to paint UK in a negative light, the Cats have decided to move in another directin.

    I love the IU game and have loved watching the game on tv and both at Indy and Freedom Hall. The Kentucky vs Indiana game is one of the nation’s best. Thirteen national titles would have been represented when the teams would have hit the floor this year. And the rivalry is so grand with passionate, loyal fans on both sides, the game deserved to be played in a Final Four atmosphere with 20,000 fans apiece.

    I regret Indiana being unwilling to play on a neutral court (an idea that Indiana came up with back in 1987-88) and ending this series.

    While I could see that four year deal being a fair compromise, that would have been before IU tried to make UK look bad and balked at the notion of facing the Cats in Indy.

    SEC expansion and the need to secure revenue from either a home game or a neutral site game is impacting this decision. So too is perhaps an Indiana administration that is urging its fans to be the most “obnoxious” in America.

    We don’t need that. I am shocked Indiana continues to wage this negotiation in the court of public opinion.

    I am not even sure UK would be willing to sign a 2 year deal to play the Hoosiers in Indianapolis at this point.

    It is a shame the game will end but as a Kentucky fan I see this scheduling failure as the fault of Indiana’s athletic department.

    I also believe though that UK will play Indiana next year and it wil either be in Indianapolis or Catlanta.

    Either way you are going to lose.

  22. Collins1, it’s amusing that you say Louisville ‘has always been and always will be our biggest rival.’ Hmm, you refused to play them for so long the state legislature almost stepped in to make it a legal requirement. So I guess it’s a tradition to refuse to play your ‘biggest rivals.’ Look it up, you’ve played IU many more times than you’ve played Louisville.

    Prior to this incident, I didn’t really have much against Kentucky. Now I hope every win you’ve ever had is vacated, Cal gets a lifetime show-cause penalty, and such SEC juggernauts as Auburn, South Carolina and Georgia go on multiple-decade winning streaks against Kentucky.

  23. Ferg – who won the national title this year and has 8 total?

    The Washington Huskies, who else.

  24. I wished an agreement could have been worked out. The IU/UK game has always meant something to me. Although, I wouldn’t have cared if the series took a vacation during the Mike Davis/Tubby Smith days. Horrible basketball for the most part. Now that both programs is strong it’s a shame to have a temporary break in the series. IU should take UL up on their offer. GO BIG BLUE!!!

  25. It is unfortunate that the series can’t continue. This was an exciting game to look forward to each year on many different levels. Unfortunately, it seems that UK is not very interested in playing IU anymore. I can understand why although I’m disappointed that this is the case. Despite the success and history of each franchise, IU has struggled in recent history. Programs like Duke and UNC have enjoyed recent and consistent success. Despite IU’s preseason ranking, Kentucky has more to gain by playing the Carolina schools as they have more national brand power right now. IU will reestablish itself as a perennial contender, but until they do, UK will not alter their scheduling philosophy.

  26. UK cancelled the series because IU is irrelevant. It would be great if people in Indiana could grasp that.

  27. UK is scared? Of what? Losing a game in December? Who cares? A game against IU is meaningless. Bigger fish to fry. Move on, Hoosiers. Find another team to storm the floor against next December after you beat another good opponent.

    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!! We won a game!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  28. This is quite simple; Calipu$$y is afraid of getting taken behind the woodshed in Rupp next December. He’d rather prepare his budding NBA farm club for the tournament by playing Portland. Hilarious!

    Oh, and about “class”….. which school has convicted cheats/point shaver’s jerseys hanging from their arena? That’s truly class and so indicative of the cess-pool that is UK.


  29. Look at the top of your own website losers-

    UK 102…IU 90

    You guys are hanging on to a meaningless game in December. Winning the NCAA banner is much more enjoyable knowing we beat you losers to get there!!

  30. What an idiot this guy Glass is. How many different ways can you spell Calipari (not Calapari)? Figure out how to spell his name before you come begging for him to play you.

  31. IU is irrelevant? Pre-season #1 with great recruits lined up the next few years makes IU one of the top programs in the country. You moron UKers cannot dispute this.

    UK is SCARED to play IU. They wouldn’t entertain a compromise offer that let them play two neutral site games and a home game with only one true road game. Scaredy Cats afraid to play on the road. Pathetic.

    As for IU- they don’t need UK either. North Carolina is coming to Assembly Hall and UCLA, Georgetown, and Butler are all on the pre-conference schedule.

  32. IU is set up for much better long term success than UK since we won’t be losing an entire team after every season. That is what happens when you recruit players actually interested in getting an education.

  33. “We’ll play any team, anywhere, anytime (except IU).” Have you seen how many times the word VACATE appears on Calapari’s wiki? LOL. Awesome coach. Just AWESOME. Perfect role model, what a standup guy, a model citizen, wonderful human being. Enjoy your banner while you got it; something tells me it’s going bye bye… just a hunch.

  34. How did I know all the knuckle-draggers sitting in Darwin’s waiting room would come flooding in here with barely legible posts in what should be the English language and lots of exclamation points (!!!!!!!!!!)?

    Not really sure what UK fans are so flippant about getting rid of a rivalry that has existed since ’69. You can hate our guts all you want, but you’re as dense as the plank in your collective foreheads if you think it is a good thing for college basketball and our respective schools to end this series.

  35. BTW, you classless idiots continue to level baseless accusations against our fans from phantom people who were supposedly threatened and beat up. It is utterly false and there was a single incident that actually happened. But, you guys enjoy flooding every comment section with these lies.

    I’m really going to enjoy the day when Calipari is ducking his head into the backseat of a car on the way to his latest NCAA investigation hearing. Could happen to better fan base.

  36. Calipari doesn’t want to play Indiana anywhere on this planet. Two years ago against a 12 win Indiana team, Calipari needed 40+ FT’s to beat Indiana in Lexington. In the NCAA Tournament he needed nearly the same number, even with the officials doing their best to immediately get Zeller out of the game after he yet again dominated Anthony Davis and sat him on the bench (NBA Future). Cowards

  37. I was at the 60th birthday party of a business associate. He was presented with a presumably humorous birthday card and encouraged to read it. Humor turned to discomfort when everyone realized he could not read.

    The gentleman graduated from UK in 1974.

    Absolutely true.

  38. F Glass has gone too far trying to compromise to get the UK game back. Let it go. It would be fun to kick their butts up and down the court, but not at the expense of catering to them…

    Let’s move on to a new rivalry with a classy opponent.

  39. Agreed. Never wrestle with a pig.

    We’ve already got UNC. Let’s add Kansas. Kentucky can have all those SEC dynamos.

  40. Wow, see the Kentucky trolls are out in full force. Kentucky is the one that will not compromise here. It’s their way or the highway. Therefore, Kentucky is the ones who ended this series because they are inflexible. This two year contract stuff will make it impossible to keep any rivalries alive and further demonstrates Cal’s mockery of college athletics. What happens when Cal leaves (one way or another) and Kentucky sucks for a few years after? I bet it will come back to bite them scheduling wise because no one will play them when they suck. It can happen – see the Billy Gillispie years. Kentucky basketball is the biggest proponent of anti-tradition within college sports.

    BTW, Cal’s comment about playing in a domed stadium two years ago would have won them the championship is ludicrous and a slap in the face to West Virginia who beat them. Cal is like that girl who toys with the guys, won’t commit to them, sleeps with them all but has the STDs to mess them all up in the end. Good riddance!

  41. Kentucky has been exposed and our suspicions confirmed. Enough said.

    It’s just a matter of time before it all comes crashing down in Lexington.

  42. Yes it is a matter of time. I think Calapari is a disgrace to the NCAA. I understand why a college would want 1 or 2 one-and-dones every year but 5???!!!!!

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