Watford’s shot nominated for ESPY for Play of the Year

Christian Watford’s buzzer-beating 3-pointer that beat Kentucky is one of the ESPY nominees for Play of the Year. Fans can vote here beginning at 11 p.m. tonight.

The release from Indiana sports info:

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. – Indiana forward Christian Watford’s buzzer-beating 3-pointer against then-No. 1 Kentucky is one of 16 ESPY nominees for Best Play.

“I’m very glad to be representing the University, said Watford. “It was a great moment for me. My teammates did the job of getting me there. Verdell (Jones III) found me with the pass and Cody (Zeller) set a great screen.”

The 20th ESPYS are LIVE on Wednesday, July 11 at the Nokia Theater in downtown Los Angeles with host Rob Riggle. The event is the one night where the sports world joins together to celebrate the best moments of the year. The ESPYS and related events benefit the V Foundation for Cancer Research in memory of the late Jim Valvano.

Best Play is a bracket-style vote, with the top 16 seeds cut down to the final 8 on Tuesday, July 3. The final 4 will be revealed on Monday, July 9. Voting will remain open through the ESPYS Countdown Show and will close when the show begins at 9 p.m. ET on July 11.

Fans may select the Best Play beginning Friday by voting online at ESPN.com/ESPYS.

Earlier this year, Watford’s shot was named the National College Basketball Play of the Year by GEICO.

Down two to Kentucky with no timeouts and less than six seconds to play, Indiana’s Verdell Jones III took the inbounds pass from Watford and sprinted up the court. Jones III dribbled inside the 3-point line, spun in front of his defender and kicked the ball out to the open trailer, Watford. Watford launched a 3-pointer as the buzzer sounded and hit nothing but net. Indiana’s Assembly Hall erupted as a sea of red stormed the court in celebration of the Hoosiers 73-72 win over the top-ranked Wildcats. To view the play on YouTube, visit: http://bit.ly/zbrFKt.


  1. If any play occurred that should beat The Sacred Shot, as I’ve taken to calling Watford’s buzzer-beater, I didn’t see it. I know I’ll be voting for it, repeatedly.

  2. two comments:

    This got me watching the replay of the game and there’s a shot with about 17 minutes to go in the second half where Hulls drives and kicks-out to Watford for a “3” in about the exact spot where he hit the game winner.

    The thing I think gets lost on the last play of the game is that Teague didn’t hustle back. If he would have he might have blocked Watford’s shot. Cody, on the other hand, was under the basket when the shot went in.

  3. How many times have we heard Kaintuck fans call it a “lucky shot” when it was a wide open three by one of the best three point shooters in the country? Yeah, what are the chances that CWat hits an open three?

  4. Anyone wants to see something really worth seeing, the interview dressing down Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban- an IU graduate who I understand is very, very supportive of IU athletics- gives ESPN ‘guru’ Skip Bayless is absolutely epic.

    It really illustrates the difference between a professional (yes, owners are professionals) who knows his field in depth and a self-appointed ‘expert’ who trades in content-less phrases that hide ignorance.

    Following is the link: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/mark-cuban-absolutely-destroys-espn-skip-bayless-air-202818568–nba.html

  5. Bayless is an absolute frickin’ idiot. I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a ‘sportscaster’ that knows less about sports. Cuban was perfect, ask Skip a question that requires actual knowledge of the game and Bayless tries to change the subject.

    I’ve never understood why ESPN gives that moron a paycheck.

  6. There’s another great clip of Bayless talking about the ‘duties’ of a point guard and recalling his own experience as the starting point guard on a championship team not knowing one of the panelists had done a little research. He got called on it because, the truth was, Bayless was the last guy off the end of the bench and rarely played.

  7. I went to vote but didn’t see “best play” category and it said I did “100%” of the votes.

  8. Part III of the ESPN interview is much more interesting than when Cuban was in his little infantile squabble with Skip Bayless. Stephen Smith exposes Cuban for a bit of his obvious shallowness and hypocrisy.

    And let’s keep in mind that these sports talk shows are a product that isn’t really intended to be packaged as a Basketball 101 study lab class attempting to teach every X and O the game to a mass audience of zombies that can’t get enough their sports .

    The product needs a certain amount of sensationalism and personality to sell(Jim Rome…?…Tony Kornheiser?… Anyone?). One would think a businessman like Cuban would understand the importance of personality on a network sports talk show instead of attempting to discredit Bayless and ignore the substantial positives in ratings(albeit to a public that may not possess Cuban’s incomparable knowledge of the game of basketball)and profits his controversial and contrarian
    role-playing shtick that he provides to the popular ESPN mid-afternoon show. Bayless put the show on the map years ago when it first came on the air as “Cold Pizza.”

    I also thought Cuban showed little decorum as a guest on a show. He came off as the dumb hick that has no regard for respect a house not his own. Do any of you remember the Johnny Carson Show? Could you imagine a guest coming on Carson and and acting the way Cuban did toward Bayless? I guess being a billionaire give him the right. Couldn’t he have taken his high-horse appeal, his “we need more intelligent discussion” in sports stance, aimed at any number of sports shows that gains ratings from sensationalism..Why use Bayless as the scapegoat for the general trend all news and sports to package their products in extremes and generalizations? Go on Fox News and rip at every reporter on their network that attacks stories and politicians without facts.

    News Flash to airhead Cuban: It’s all entertainment. Skip Bayless is acting..Skip Bayless is doing exactly what his producers want and feel is necessary to help the show succeed and profit. The NBA is a product no different..All the sensationalism feeds your product and like it, or not, Mr. Cuban, you are a whore to the game’s ability to attract an audience. Go ahead, host a show with a chalkboard…Explain to the masses how the coach of your Mavericks team taught the owner all the intricacies of four different types of zone defenses. See how well that goes over..See how that sells against soap operas playing in the sleepy daytime slot of a summer afternoon.

    Cuban is an egomaniac that thinks he can be everything to anybody. His disrespect of Bayless on his own show only provides living proof his being captive his own success. Personally, I would turn to soap operas before listening to Cuban playing Bobby Knight in an hour of chalkboard b-ball shoptalk. I would turn on Skip Bayless blowing foul generalizing wind out his ass with his ratings flute(while playing to perfection the role/stage in a play as the sensationalist journalist/casual superficial fan) before watching Cuban, a bona fide superficial tycoon in pantyhose, pretending to be an expert at anything(especially hoops and dancing).

  9. HfH, Could not disagree more about each paragraph in post #11. The view you hold is 180 degrees different from the 1 I hold.

  10. You disagree that many sports talk shows are not intentionally sensationalistic in approach for sake of ratings?

    I thought both Bayless and Cuban missed much of the main crux when it came to discussing LeBron and the Hest’s success in this year’s championship-winning season compared to last year’s falling short. It wasn’t just about LeBron and it certainly wasn’t just about the ingenious defensive schemes the Mavericks developed to slow down Pat Riley’s “system” cast upon the young Heat head coach. Where was the discussion of team chemistry? As much as Cuban would like to believe they shut down a team full of superstars, I tend to believe it took a good couple years before some shedding of individualistic mindsets and trust began to develop. Last year’s Heat team was nowhere near anything approaching the unselfishness a team game beginning to manifest itself. LeBron did change his role..He matured and his teammates matured along with him. He made his limelight rather than settle for it…along with not settling for only long, open jump shots. The coach can know the game inside and out, but he must also be a great psychologist. Erik Spoelstra did a hell of a job teaching superstars to take on a more humble side(something that would likely be impossible with a “know-it-all” personality like Cuban)their games. He built some of the most dominant players in the game into team players..He built their trust to go contrary their innate and capable instincts to take over the floor on their own. That’s nothing to do with X’s and O’s.

    Bayless understands the idiosyncrasies and the intaglios of the game at a level a superficial Cuban chooses to see as a game of Monopoly.

    Rockets didn’t stop going to Mars anymore because we don’t have the technology or the engineers. We lack the wonderful salesman passionate all the mysteries of space. We miss men like Carl Sagan. There is personality in every pursuit. Love him, hate him, or something on a sliding scale in between, Bobby Knight brought personality to Bloomington…He did a tremendous amount in selling the game. I never thought it was just about the X’s and O’s or his mind for the blackboard discussions…It was more the visible passion evident in every word off his tongue in his quest of perfection a simple game with a ball played on maple.

    Much like a lonely rocket going into space with the echoes of Sagans heart propelling its boosters, Knight believed the passion in a pursuit to be more important than any limelight shining from the heavens on a highly-heralded recruit thinking he’s the only star/god in the galaxy.

  11. Harvard, you really put Skip in the Johnny Carson role? Bayless is a total self possessed dick to everyone and Cuban called him on it. Cuban is an egomaniac, sure, but he’s the egomaniac that brought streaming of sporting events to the internet. That didn’t happen because he passed an audition an was allowed to sit in a seat.

    Bayless is even more of an egomaniac but he’s never possessed the brain power to do anything of merit.

    Cuban has earned the opportunity to call out Bayless. Bayless has yet to earn anything.

    As far as the Heat being a different team than it was last year, that’s exactly the point that Cuban was making.

  12. I believe the First Take show falters without Bayless.

    I think Cuban was disrespectful. You don’t earn a right to be disrespectful. And like I said, he could take his quest against sensationalism in sports/news to any of dozens of shows that do nothing different than Bayless.

    Think of me less for liking the Skipper….You have a right to your opinion. I’ve always enjoyed Bayless. I think he’s entertaining and deserves respect for basically captaining a ship that’s been very successful for ESPN. I don’t see him as the fool for creating the tidal waves per his every dropping a thought about games.

    Did you know he’s a dog lover? He’s one of the few sports talk guys that didn’t jump on the “forgiveness bandwagon” the horrible deeds of Vick and his backwoods band of dog mutilators. He’s not just a simple pawn in the hip pockets of the sporting world executives always willing to do or say anything for the greedy pursuance of entertainment at any cost.

    Cuban doesn’t do it for me. IU grad, or not..I think he’s a meddling twit that doesn’t know sh____.

  13. I don’t disagree with everything Bayless throws out there. Even a blind pig…blah…blah…blah.

    The clip I saw show one guy with a pretty darned good knowledge of basketball and the other guy…well, it was Bayless.

    Bayless is also a fraud. He makes all these claims about what he’s done or what he previously said and when the record is checked he’s invariably lying. I have no use for that.

    Like him for his entertainment value, if you so choose, but the guy is devoid of integrity. Have you ever heard the way Stephan A. Smith talks about him on the morning ESPN radio shows? He has no respect for him whatsoever.

  14. As far as Cuban being disrespectful, he was just calling out Bayless for being a fraud. Is letting bull$hit go unchallenged somehow worthy of merit?

    I applaud him.

  15. Cuban never brought up team chemistry(or the lack thereof for the Heat’s befuddled look against the Mavericks in the 2011 Finals)…He was claiming the stagnancy in LeBron(and by extrapolation, much the Miami offense)was primary the result a Pat Riley system of playing the game that was left stalled and perplexed against the infallible defense and strategy his team he owns.

    Baylees was attributing much of the purposelessness in LeBron and the Heat from overwhelming pressure the expectations to succeed. I don’t think that’s totally unreasonable..Sometimes you have to taste that disappointment before you can put it in true perspective…I also believe there wasn’t much chemistry/synergy on the floor between the superstars that hadn’t yet truly accepted their diminished individual roles.

    I never look at any game as purely which team was better prepared(in terms of X’s and O’s)…The successful meshing of personalities and developing chemistry/brotherhood can’t be flippantly disregarded when talking about superstars forced to share spotlight.

    Didn’t we see how different the Hoosiers played when Jones was sidelined by happenstance? How can you just dumb down sports to offensive and defensive schemes? You have to have guys on the floor that work unselfishly…And when it comes to superstars, it’s a fine balance that can take considerable time to hone.

    Super-critical fans were sometimes harder on LeBron for playing unselfishly(e.g. sharing the ball, penetrating and kicking it out)..Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t when you have the ability to so much within the godlike marvels of your own athletic talents..”Why didn’t LeBron just take that to the hole himself!?”…It’s sounds easy, but I think all the Heat superstars had to learn to trust each other and shut the world of armchair critics outs…In that respect, I think Bayless was not so far off-base his assessment a superstars ongoing predicament to fight through the voices that can mentally handcuffed the balance between playing as an unselfish trusted teammate or taking complete charge a game where your own uniquely unparalleled gifts are left exposed to fail or succeed.

    I tend to believe we saw a Heat team grow up and mature in their roles during a dominant display in the playoffs and the unstoppable freight train that rolled over a favored Thunder team. I don’t think they lacked the same dominance last year because of any perplexing defense or match-ups Cuban’s Mavs were throwing at the gladiators of the hardwood. They achieved a balance…a lethal balance and understanding each other on the floor. They figured out when to take a game/play over individually or when it was more advantageous to settle in as a team. It moved fluidly between and shifted from game to game as needed..It just wasn’t a facet of the Heat maturity process that was on the floor last year.

  16. Stephen Smith is also playing a role, Chet. If you pay close attention to Part III the show with Cuban, you can detect Smith having the back of Bayless.

    On a day-to-day, Bayless is perfectly positioned as every co-host’s adversary on First Take. That morning stuff your heard on the radio is just set-up for the sparks to come in the afternoon. They have you right where they want you…You just can’t wait to tune in for some afternoon verbal fisticuffs and watch the gloves come off against that blowhard Bayless.

    Don’t you ever listen to Mike and Mike? Shouldn’t it really be called Mike vs. Mike? Do they ever agree? Same stuff. Entertainment.

  17. “I tend to believe we saw a Heat team grow up and mature in their roles.”

    That is very close to what Cuban said.

    Harvard, you were much more precise than Bayless. He spoke in vague generalities and was called on it.

    He’s like the psychic who says, “the body will be found near water,” and everything from Niagara Falls to a Dixie cup qualifies. He then takes credit for being exactly correct.

    Yes, I listen to Mike and Mike regularly. They are humorously dismissive of one another. That’s different.

    Do you hear the part of the clip where Bayless claimed Lebron’s play was affected by his comments? He actually said that. Could there possibly be a more arrogant, yet inanely stupid, comment? That is quite possibly the most assinine thing I have ever heard. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that Lebron has no idea who he is other then ‘the little worm on ESPN’. But Skip wholeheartedly believes that Lebron’s performance was affected by the comments of a third string JV point guard (though he claimed to have led his high school to a championship).

    I never tune into Bayless for more than about 30 seconds. Stephen A. could never come up with anything that would draw me in. Bayless must get his lines from the stuff they couldn’t use on The Bachelorette or Keeping Up With the Kardasians (however you spell it). I can’t sit through any of them.

    …and, hate him all you want, but Mark Cuban is a very smart (and successful) guy. He’s not a Donald Trump who inherited all his money and hasn’t managed to lose it all (yet). He changed the way the internet works before he changed the way to win in the NBA and players LOVE to play for him. A lot of Cubs fans were begging for him to buy the team because they knew he would pull bring baseball out of the 1950s (which is exactly why the stodgy old owners wanted no part of him).

  18. Bayless is just having fun with the comment about LeBron listening to him too much..You’re taking him far too seriously and missing the fun of the entire show.

    Anyway, Skip’s brother is fine chef. Can that count for something? Have you ever been to Frontera Grill in Chicago(one of Rick’s restaurants)? I simply love that place..Great atmosphere and fabulous Southwestern/Mexican dishes..Skip and Rick both seem like rather eccentric characters. I enjoy those not so cut from the mold. I rather tire of serious sports chat and maybe that over-the-top(ness) and obstinately obnoxious routine from Skip is what draws me in.

    Great for Cuban being a self-made success…Many do the same without having the need to plaster themselves in front of every camera lens connected to a television. The guy seeks attention anywhere he can get it. To me he seems simpleminded and a common bore. I’d much rather take a fishing trip with LeBron and Skip…..or sail the bays of Maine with Geoff and Chet.

  19. Mark Cuban ripping Skip Bayless was so funny!

    I was laughing so much during that interview.

  20. Uh-oh…Is that it, Chet? Is it because Skip is a big Tebow fan?

    I think I found the nerve. Do you think Bayless is a big fan because Tebow believes in the power of Jesus? If it’s o.k. for Chet to be fan of Tom Crean then why is it not o.k. for Skip to believe in one of the few decent men in the NFL; a young studly looking man, a portrait of Michelangelo’s David in shoulder pads, to be guided by the hand of the Lord’s choice as the new starting QB fro the Jets and future Super Bowl MVP?

    Is that the nerve I hit? It took me a while, but I got there.

    Bayless simply adores Tebow…. Nearly as much Tom Crean adores Matt Roth.

  21. And let’s not forget that Skip shares the same alma mater(Vanderbilt) of a very important player on the Chicago Bears…And what fine state is that impressive QB(the one that will meet Tebow in the Super Bowl)on the Bears originally from?

    And guess the name of the Scoop blogger that is a diehard Bears fan since the days of the great Bob Avellini? DA BEARS!!

    See now…We all have our motives. Really not too many broadcasters/sports journalists on TV that are not part of two main dominant groups now hoarding the entire profession: washed up ex-professional athletes, or card-carrying members by fortune the elitist societies born of privilege and wealth from the old money and aristocracies the East and West coasts grammar schools.

    A man of faith…a Midwesterner schooled in the heart of the country in a country music town…a Bears fan with a brother that devotes his life to expressing the cultural flavors an oppressed and corporately abused segment of the American population more American than most Americans…What’s not to like about a Bayless? Great Mexican food and sports playing all day on the TV…Who would not want to grow up in a Bayless household?

  22. As I don’t watch his show I didn’t know that Skippy was a big Tebow fan but that sounds about right. Tebow is to NFL quarterbacking what Bayless is to sports analysis. I don’t mind if he wants to ‘believe’ in him. To the best of my knowledge he does exist. Hey, if you add Tebow and Sanchez’s QB rating together you get a comfortable room temperature.

    I HAD heard that one of the Bayless boys was competent at their job.

  23. Hoosier Clarion, Chet …great comments, I agree with the two of you completely… Cuban showed knowledge and depth; Bayless…insecurity and a compelling need to- as Chet points out- reassure himself.

    Interesting how particular readers break one way or the other on the very issue involving Cuban and Bayless.

  24. Frontera Grill and Topolobampo are proof, for every genius brother there is an idiot somewhere.

    Actually, they both do the same thing. Rick takes a Frito tortilla chip, throws it in some boiling water and calls it “Noveau Mexican Cuisine” (all the time filming himself). Skip takes a phrase he took out of an old cook book (“…the ‘gusto’ didn’t show up…”), throws it in an AP game story and calls it ‘sports commentary’ on ESPN.

    Cuban knows the difference between Southwest and Mexican cooking.

  25. Bayless went directly from Vanderbilt to The Miami Herald, where he wrote sports features for two years before being hired away by the Los Angeles Times. There, he was best known for investigative stories on the Dodgers’ clubhouse resentment of “golden boy” Steve Garvey and his celebrity wife Cyndy and on Rams owner Carroll Rosenbloom’s behind-the-scenes decisions to start different quarterbacks each week (James Harris, Pat Haden or Ron Jaworski). Bayless also won the Eclipse Award for his coverage of Seattle Slew’s Triple Crown.

    At 25, Bayless was hired by The Dallas Morning News to write its lead sports column, and two years later, the rival Dallas Times Herald hired him away by making him one of the country’s highest paid sports columnists—prompting The Wall Street Journal to do a story on the development. Bayless was voted Texas sportswriter of the year three times.

    In 1989, Bayless wrote God’s Coach, about the rise and fall of Tom Landry’s Dallas Cowboys. Following the Cowboys’ Super Bowl victory in 1993, Bayless wrote The Boys, which broke the story that coach Jimmy Johnson and owner Jerry Jones were not “best friends” and correctly predicted that Jones would fire Johnson no matter how much success the team had. (Jones fired Johnson after the Cowboys won another Super Bowl the following year.)[clarification needed]

    Following a third Cowboys Super Bowl win in four seasons, Bayless wrote the third and final book of his Cowboys trilogy, Hell-Bent: The Crazy Truth About the “Win or Else” Dallas Cowboys. After covering the Cowboys through the 1996 season, Bayless chose to leave Dallas after 17 years and become the lead sports columnist for the Chicago Tribune. In his first year in Chicago, Bayless won the Lisagor Award for excellence in sports column writing and was voted Illinois sportswriter of the year.

    Bayless eventually had a highly publicized dispute with the Tribune’s executive editor, Ann Marie Lipinski, over limiting all Tribune columns to just 650 or so words. Bayless quit over the policy and was immediately hired by Knight Ridder Corporation to write for its flagship newspaper, the San Jose Mercury News.[2] While in San Jose, Bayless became a fixture on ESPN’s Rome is Burning and in a weekly Sunday Morning SportsCenter debate with Stephen A. Smith, “Old School/Nu Skool.” ESPN hired Bayless full-time in 2004 to team with Woody Paige on ESPN2’s Cold Pizza and to write columns for ESPN.com. In 2007, Bayless stopped writing columns to concentrate on what is now called ESPN First Take (formerly Cold Pizza) and on ESPN’s afternoon show, First and 10.

    Just a snippet…Sure sounds like an incompetent guy.

    Cuban may know the difference…I’m just doubtful he could ever distinguish the taste of anything other than a comparison between a Banquet and Swanson TV dinner.

    Did you ever give Frontera Grill a try, Taao?..I remember long ago you said you were going to make a point of doing so(my damn memory…I rarely forget a face or conversation). Hell, I;m just a simple Indiana hick..I love Trojan Horse. The few times I’ve been to Frontera Grill(probably three times over 10 years) I just let the waiter tell me his/her recommendations. I’m sure there is much finer dining in Chicago, but I love the atmosphere and the liveliness the place. I remember mucho beautiful woman pushed together in the tight quarters a colorful place…Rick collects a lot of Mexican artwork..It’s hanging from every beam and wall. Between the women dressed in short tight skirts to impress, the art, and the delicious tastes my palate unaccustomed, it’s just a fine night out. If you have friends(I don’t), it’s even more festive. It can be long waits for tables during the weekend..(unless you’re the idiot brother of the owner…I guess).

  26. That’s a nice bio but let’s face it, if you’re comparing his accomplishments to Mark Cuban’s that looks like what Cuban did in the sixth grade.

  27. Donald Trump also has quite the bio…He and Cuban have about the same level of unpretentious genuineness.

    The only thing I associate with ‘Cuban’ is a cigar or jerk chicken…(the latter being Mark).

  28. SCORE ONE FOR HARVARD!! I wonder if that one woke up Geoff’s wife somewhere?

  29. Hornets extend qualifying offer to Gordon

    By Royce Young | NBA Blogger
    June 28, 2012 5:35 pm ET

    Eric Gordon’s future in New Orleans seems to be a bit uncertain, but one thing is for sure: The Hornets will have their chance to keep him.

    The team announced Thursday it has extended Gordon a qualifying offer, making him a restricted free agent. The Hornets can match any offer made to him this summer.

    Gordon battled injury for most of his only season in New Orleans playing in only nine games. He was traded to the Hornets as the key piece in the Chris Paul trade with the Clippers.

    In CBSSports.com’s Top 40 Free Agents, Gordon is ranked second overall. Ben Golliver says:

    Gordon sat out a vast majority of the 2011-12 season with a knee injury, but his ability to score and shoot will command a maximum salary offer (or close to it) At 23, the best is still yet to come and all signs point to the Hornets retaining him to position him as the outside complement to the inside presence of presumptive No. 1 overall pick Anthony Davis.

    Gordon averaged a team-leading 20.6 points in addition to 3.4 assists, 2.8 rebounds and 1.4 steals in nine games (all starts) while shooting 45 percent from the field. The Hornets were 6-3 when Gordon played this season and he led the team in scoring in all but one of those games.

    It’s unknown whether or not Gordon will remain with the Hornets through this offseason, but they at least want to give themselves a shot at keeping him. He has serious star potential and teaming him with Anthony Davis would seem to give New Orleans quite a serious young core.

    But other teams see Gordon as a big free agent and might come in offering major money. The Hornets worked on an extension for Gordon last season but weren’t hitting the mark on dollars. Which means they might not be in the same ballpark again this summer.

    Hope EJ can stay healthy in 2012-13 and prove to the world he is a true NBA All-Star from the great b-ball state of Indiana.

    Here come the Hornets!

  30. No, really, Trump doesn’t. Trump inherited a billion dollars and has a laundry list of failures and bankruptcies in his wake. I doubt he has a much money as he started with. He’s never earned a thing. Most of the things with his name on them he owns a 2% stake.

    Cuban is the son of an auto upholsterer. His first business venture was selling garbage bags when he was 12 to buy shoes. He ushered in internet streaming of sports (among several other early internet technologies) with a single ISDN line, he founded the first high definition satellite network, many internet and communication technologies can be traced back to him in one way or another.

    He paid his way through IU with a bunch of businesses he started while in school.

    Sure, he’s pompous, but he backs everything up. He once said the NBA manager of officials ‘couldn’t manage a Dairy Queen’. When a Dairy Queen manager took offense he showed up at his door and spent a very busy day making blizzards for the scores of people who lined up around the block.

    A no nothing about sports? MIT doesn’t think so. He’s been a panelist at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference since 2009. He also founded Synergy Sports Technology, a web based basketball scouting and video delivery tool, used by many NBA teams.

    His success with the perennial cellar dwelling Mavericks stands on its own merit.

    His politics are all over the map but he is among those billionaires that wants to see his taxes raised, saying it’s the most patriotic thing the wealthy can do. He has facilitated countless young people in business startups and gives bucketloads to charities, most notably to veterans organizations.

    He is no Donald Trump.

    With all the positive things he’s done, if he wants to yell at guys on the basketball floor and wear a team jersey (while sitting with the ‘regular people’ in the stands) I’m not gonna berate him for it.

  31. The Huffington Post also had a piece about Cuban taking on Bayless on First Take….Pretty much the same angle most other columnists were giving the highly publicized exchange…Bayless was put in his place..Bayless was owned..blah..blah..blah.

    I dug through a handful of readers’ comments/responses on Huffington..Nothing but the barking of Pavlov’s dog responses until I came across one I rather enjoyed and found considerable agreement.

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    07:58 PM on 06/23/2012
    Anti-Bayless fans, you’re stuck. I don’t like the guy much either, but only because I find him to be very vanilla and not at all compelling. Hoping he will go away is about as useless as hoping LeBron wouldn’t win a championship (GO LEBRON!!). ESPN is a successful entity for several reasons, and one important reason is their willingness to embrace conflict. What transpired between Cuban and Bayless is at the root of entertainment and storytelling…. characters engaged in conflict. As long as Bayless draws the ire of contemporaries, or whoever else gets in his grill, the E in ESPN will flourish. I use to wonder why they chose to call it the Entertainment and Sports Programming Network, putting the E before the S, but I wisened up. The diversity of ESPN media figures is astounding. There is no singular ‘type’ the network will employ. By design, Skip Bayless will always be the fly in the ointment. Ointment alone just isn’t interesting enough.

    Puts in perspective who was “owned.” Do people watch NBA games on the NBA Network? Sports at the professional level is primarily a product for sole purpose its entertainment value. Without keen marketing and programming to stir the pot, there is no success the entity. Without the selling and emotional elements stirred into the pot(much like the way Howard Cossell put Monday Night Football on the map…though the stiff and manikin-like, ex-NFLer, Frank Gifford, would love to believe otherwise-as if merely being able to speak coherently and have direct association with a game brings entertainment value) that Bayless and others on ESPN provide as free advertising and concocted buildup for professional sports, Cuban would be bankrupted by the blaze tactics his own chalkiness and clueless efforts in making something more than the truth its rather meaningless purpose the masses.

  32. Did you happen to notice Cuban’s song choice for his ‘farewell dance’ after elimination from Dancing with the Stars?

    Would that not be a great intro for an ESPN sports talk show? Bayless and Stephen A. could embrace and do a few Viennese Waltz steps together before they go to opposite ends the wide field of battle their giant round First Take table. There’s a lot of yelling and courageousness in these shows, but where is the clever satire?

  33. First weeks of training down in Florida….Right? My damn memory..It’s really a curse more than anything else.

  34. Chet prove your statements about DT. While you are at it prove your statements about yourself. Both will prove equally difficult.

  35. Skip vs Cuban as shown in the video is totally devoid of the horsepower needed to neutralize Cuban.

    As far as Trump’s father I seriously doubt he was ever worth 1/2B let alone 1B. Also I believe DT has 3 or 4 siblings, so any inheritance would most likely have been split rather evenly. DT has built some tremendously successful properties. Even with ventures in distress, bankers and lenders alike, would reorganize loans nearly every time as they felt they were better off with Trump than w/o him. The Trump name branding now raises the value of any development where it is hung. His bombastic personality and ego is a negative but he has earned his hash marks in business.

  36. You can Wiki Donald. I remember when he went public with his casino the Motley Fool immediately recommended shorting it. Those that took the advice made a bundle as he drove it right into the ground. Look up how the place was operated sometime. It’s an hilarious story of incredibly bad business practice.

    Then there’s that whole ‘birther’ thing. Doesn’t get any goofier than that.

    What would like to know about me? Short of posting my SSN I’ve given out enough personal information about myself here that it’s easy enough to check me out. Someone recently posted a bunch of personal stuff about me on here a while back but quit when they realized I didn’t care. Why would I care if someone posted where I went to graduate school? It’s WCU, by the way.

    But, then, I don’t care what you think, either. I haven’t said my life was anything remarkable. If it seems that way to you you need to set your bar a little higher.

  37. HC, Fred Trump’s estate was worth over 1/2 billion though I don’t know how much more. I’m sure you’re right, though, Donald probably started out from scratch with nothing more than one or two hundred million dollars (and his father’s real estate company) to his name.

  38. Harvard, I’ve never seen DWTS, either.

    The comment about Howard Cosell reminded me of a Randall “Tex” Cobb story.

    After Cobb’s bout with Larry Holmes, Cosell famously said he was through with boxing. When told of this Cobb retorted, “I’ll go another 12 rounds with him if it’ll get him off Monday Night Football.”

  39. Chet, I still doubt 1B. He was no doubt a real estate magnate of the conservative nature but in low rent holdings and in $ 40-80 years ago. No way he is worth even a 1/2B. DT has hit grand slams and is worth 3B max and he is dealing in much bigger modern day $. DT is an OJT type of player and he proved it early on in gambling. Today build some type of magnifico facility to be extremely successful, pay him a fee, and hang his name on it and set back and cash checks. It is much like country club golf courses with the signature Jack Nickolaus.

  40. HC, ‘in excess 1/2 billion’ is what was written at the time of FT’s death. Obviously, I have no way to know the accuracy of these estimates or just what ‘excess’ means. Just articles on his death.

    Sure, I engaged in hyperbole (first time that’s happened on the Scoop). No doubt that DT has made some big splashes but he has also had spectacular failures. His involvement is far from a guarantee of success. I stand by the description of him as a self aggrandizing clown. Just turn on your television for proof.

    As far as making it on your own, Trump can’t be compared to Cuban, who started with nothing and developed ideas that impact us nearly every day.

  41. I think excess of 1/2B is also hyperbole. No doubt DT had a leg up w/ education, Daddy’s name, $ and the corp. but he has elevated out of the low rent district using his own creations and efforts. Borrowing vast sums of money from big commercial bankers is not easy even with a well prepared business plan and 3D blueprints. I am not an over exuberant fan for sure but he is a business dynamo.

  42. No doubt that is true.

    But…Trump Plaza went bankrupt, his casino flirted with bankruptcy before being ceded to it’s bondholders, his creditors took the Trump Shuttle, in 1991 he filed for business bankruptcy and was on the verge of personal bankruptcy but the banks opted to restructure rather than losing more in the bankruptcy, the USFL (remember that?) was a disaster for investors…and so forth and so on.

    He has come back, for sure. He has done a remarkable marketing job with his name. His wealth is now valued at over $2 billion, but even by conservative estimates he started out with $100 million and a commercial real estate company in Manhattan. That’s a wealth multiplier of 20.

    I’ve always gathered you are a self made businessman. I’ll bet your multiplier of wealth since you graduated from college is higher than his. Mine sure is, but when the starting point is zero anything is an improvement.

  43. I think it’s damn tight to have flown fighter jets…I get overwhelmed just figuring out the buttons on a blender.

    I forever remember the story I saw long ago(probably on the CBS Sunday Morning show) of a small Scottish farmer holding out against Trump’s attempts to buy him out(shove him out)his family’s pristine coastal land passed through generations.

    Trump could not go forward with the full tilt his mega plans for what he believed would be the new St. Andrews and homes for all the grotesquely corrupt bankers forever shankers their party palace perched upon carpets of green; replace shifting dunes and potatoes grown from the richness an old soil with tin cups echoing a purposeless clang the quadruple bogeys a tattooed ball with DT logo..Can you hear the Scottish folksong fade to the empty verse all the rapings a robber baron’s slimy backroom deals built on top the buried soul once a man’s humble callous hands and trusted toils?

    Every soul has a price. Every content baby pig no sooner becomes the wild boar hunted. I’m sure Mr. Trump will find just the right number for a simple man foolishly believing his plump heart was not for sale.

  44. Do you remember Jon McGlocklin? He and his brother, Don, played for Franklin back in the 70’s and they were the nephews of the Jon McGlocklin that played for the Milwaukee Bucks. They got Franklin to the Final Four one year.

    Jon (the nephew/twin) was in my flight school class at NAS Whiting Field.

    Great guy.

  45. Franklin and Jeffersonville were in the same conference at the time (South Central) so I saw him and his brother at least twice a season otherwise I probably wouldn’t have recognized him (as I recall I just read his name and recognized it). I think he was an academy guy.

  46. I do remember McGlocklin, helluva ball player. I’m trying to remember, didn’t he play with the Van Arsdale twins at IU (circa 1963-65?). For some reason I seem to remember that, he was a big guard for the time (about 6’6″ or so and was one of the best three point shooters I ever saw, though they were only worth two points at the time. He would have been all-everything if he had played with the three point line. His shot was a rainbow= there was a better chance that it hit the beams than it get blocked… and came down on a parachute but he could hit that sucker. Had perfect arm-hand stroke.

    He was drafted and played for….Milwaukee with Oscar and Kareem Abdul Jabbar (maybe even before Kareem – then Lew Alcindor- became Kareem??). TC should get film of Kareem and Mc Glocklin working together (they used to do that in basketball, you know). Milwaukee would drop the ball into the post to Jabbar and Mc Glocklin would set up in the corner. If the guard guarding him dropped off to help with Jabbar, Kareem would shovel the ball off to Mc Glocklin for the rainbow. They won the championship with that.. and Robertson’s genius. He played for more than 10 years in the NBA (when it still played basketball).

    The knowledge dates us…your only a few years younger than me….but… we had class in those days!

  47. Uhh!…Ohh! Chet, just re-read your post and ralized, you are talking about Jon MC2 and I was remembering John Mc1. So, the Hoosier recollection dates me a lot heavier than you. Your class obviously had class too, however.

  48. Yeah, ‘uncle’ Jon played in the backcourt with the ‘Big O’ for the Bucks. Jon and Don were his twin nephews. Great ballplayers but, obviously, not the caliber of their uncle. As I mentioned, they got an otherwise pedestrian Franklin team to the Final Four but lost (for the third time in a season) to a veteran Jeff team.

    Never met Don but I liked Jon a lot. When I recognized his name and introduced myself he seemed genuinely delighted to meet a fellow Hoosier.

  49. 1973-74, the McGlocklin twins won the Trester award. Fort Wayne Northrup won the state championship. Once again the master of misinformation, way to go Chet.

  50. Yes, douch for brains, I was there. Jeff beat Franklin in the early session and FWN won the title behind Walter Jordan who matched up against Wayne Walls. You are an idiot.

  51. Yeah, douch for brains, I was there. Jeff beat Franklin in the early session and FWN won the title behind Walter Jordan who matched up against my good friend Wayne Walls. They both started for 4 years at Purdue.

  52. You’re right. I’ve experienced running into a Hoosier (as in Indiana native and IU graduate) in a demonstration of 500,000 in South America. Instead of wildly celebrating a soccer win (even the nuns would leave the convent and kneel with a rosary in their hands, praying for a win for the entire two hours), we were slapping hands, jumping up and down and had our corner of the demonstration jumping up and down yelling Hoo-Hoo-Hoosiers listening to our stories about Hoosier(IU) basketball (circa 1975-1976) and Hoosier high school basketball in general.

    Yeah…it is nice to be walking down any street on this planet and run into a Hoosier. (Sometimes, it is even good to run into a Boilermaker…other than wasting their teams, there’s a lot of pride in the university that P.U. is in its fields; and, whatever confronts us, they are from our particular corner of the Earth).

  53. Following the 1976 season there was a popular ‘coffee table’ book about the Hoosiers season with the cover being a picture of Bobby Wilkerson jumping center against a Purdue player. Wayne Walls was the Purdue player.

  54. Chet, sorry for the delayed reply. My Bride and i have been tending to weather related situations of friends and neighbors. No big deal just necessary.

    I stayed a handful of times at DT’s casino in it’s infancy and also while in financial stress. I was always impressed with their customer focus. I believe he was the one who moved the real estate address to Manhattan from his Dad’s stomping grounds of Queens or Brooklyn. No doubt he does not back away from risks. He kind of plays the part in real life that a hero plays in movies.

    About this multiplier, I understand the thought, but…also I do not possess a sheepskin but I sure hold a doctorate from the gator school.


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