(In case you missed it) Jordan Hulls accepted an invite to the Portsmouth Invitational

I believe Alex Bozich of Inside the Hall put this on Twitter a few days ago, but Indiana senior guard Jordan Hulls has accepted an invite to the Portsmouth Invitational. The event, held at Churchland High School in Portsmouth, Va., from April 10-13, is a showcase event for college seniors, and typically includes 64 players who are fringe NBA prospects and has helped numerous players up their stock enough to get drafted.

Among the other players confirmed to be playing in the tournament are Kansas’s Travis Relaford, Arizona’s Mark Lyons, Butler’s Rotnei Clarke, Notre Dame’s Jack Cooley and Matthew Dellavedova of St. Mary’s.


  1. Yesterday was part one of why the 2012-2013 season for the Indiana Hoosiers was among the most disappointing in the programs history. I wanted to take a look today at more evidence to why so.

    I touched yesterday about Coach Tom Crean‘s lack of developing his players. The last point about that is the development of Cody Zeller. He was the preseason player of the year, for crying out loud. How does he regress so much he’s not even in discussion for the year-end award?

    The answer is he’s the same exact player as he was when he stepped on the Bloomington campus day one. He hasn’t matured one bit. He’s still the soft kid avoiding contact and playing small instead of his big 7-foot frame.
    How many times does he get blocked? Why not play big instead of getting low? I notice that every game from my couch.

    All of these reasons are why Zeller and Victor Oladipo ought to go pro and get as far away from Crean and this staff. He’s not developing them. Imagine where this team would have been if he did? All of the losses this season were due to no adjustments being made. Indiana should still be undefeated today with that talent.

    Then there’s last Thursday’s loss to Syracuse. IU had three guys ranked in the top 100 nationally for 3-point percentage and ranked third themselves. Syracuse played one defense and one defense only. IU had four days to prepare for one defense that allows open threes to the third-ranked 3-point shooting team in America.

    You can’t tell me these guys saw a 2-3 zone for the first time in their basketball careers. They looked like a deer in the headlights. The truth is IU had no gameplan for them. They didn’t practice against a zone at all.
    Now, IU fans are left with a bitter disappointment and shame. These kids who were thought to have brought the program back didn’t and didn’t win a national championships severely underachieved. The title and sixth banner was theirs. All they had to do was show some effort and improve daily.

    The reality is that it may be another 26 years before Indiana wins another title. This system and method is flawed and isn’t going to work. They will win plenty of games and contend for Big Ten regular season titles but never win another NCAA Championship.

    The talent can only get you so far. When you get to the second weekend and beyond in the tournament, games are decided majority of the time by the coaches and how they plan and adjust.

    It’s going to be hard to field a team as talented and deep as this one. It started as 13 guys fighting for valuable minutes to searching for five to even stay on the court — a disappointing season by historic measures.

    (Indiana Basketball: Part II Why Season One of Most Disappointing in Program’s History
    Read more at http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-basketball/author/ericsmith/?EtuEzFClTiMAWfdk.99)

  2. No, I think it’s more like this

    Content: F (Fabulous)

    Style: A (Atrocious)

    Now I’m going to go in the forest and build me a boat.

  3. Blah, blah, blah…blah, blah, blah, blah. That’s all I hear from you moronic boobs that seem to live vicariously through others. Get a friggin’ life of your own.

    All of the losses this year did NOT come from lack of adjustments. Turnovers, missed free throws, defensive breakdowns, poor decisions and yes, some coaching failures were the cause for those losses. Oh, and maybe just maybe the other team played better?

    You’re an absolute idiot if you think this team would have gone undefeated with a different coach. This team was NOT the most talented in the country, and even if they were that wouldn’t matter. Kentucky had a far more talented group of guys, but didn’t fair well as I recall (even before Noel went down to injury).

    So Coach Crean is responsible for the three players going 3-for-15 from 3-pt range? Was he on the floor disrupting their shots? The fact is that the shots were there, but the PLAYERS failed to hit them.

    IU fans are now left with bitter disappointment and shame? No, I’m afraid you’re wrong there. TRUE IU fans are very proud of the Hoosiers this year, including CTC and the rest of the staff. TRUE IU fans realize that no matter how much we long for the ultimate achievement of another NCAA banner, it isn’t a rite of passage or entitlement because we “think” our team is the best. A lot of much better teams have never won championships, including the 1975 IU team.

    This team DID bring the program back, along with CTC. Seems to me just two seasons ago we were enduring yet another horrendous B1G season. Maybe I’m confused, but I’m pretty sure we won the B1G outright this year, the first time since 1993. They did not underachieve, but actually overachieved considering the actual talent level on the floor.

    And Nostra-dumbass, you’re absolutely certain that they’ll never win another NCAA championship? Can you give me the winning lottery numbers for PowerBall this weekend too?

    You’re calling this season a disappointing one by historic measures? Sounds about right, as you are most certainly an infant and don’t recall the complete abomination of a once heralded program by Kelvin Sampson just 6 short years ago.

  4. Was he on the floor disrupting their shots?

    Did you watch the game?

    Clown Crean is usually on the floor yelling constantly and making signs, disrupting the team.

    Clown Crean is a fraud of historical proportions.

  5. If IU wasn’t the most talented team in the country, then it was close and those on this web site took offense at criticism of these players and hat assessment. They were ranked 1st in the country by most experts (including us on this web site) and they went back and forth (I think IU was ranked #1 more weeks than any other team) all season. IU won the Big 10 Regular Season Championship and was a 1 Seed in the NCAA Tournament. After last season, all of the above was expected. In sum, this team ‘under achieved’ this season. Half time adjustments that worked were rare and the preparation for Syracuse was not apparent. This season was a disappointment. They should be in the Final Four. Crean is at fault and the the players share the blame. There’s merit to all of the statements regarding Crean bringing the program back to prominence, the players working hard, etc. etc. The reality is that they should have achieved more because of their abilities. Last year included an element of luck with hope springing from it. This year epitomized unfulfilled potential.

  6. Ladle… Did you just opine that Crean hasn’t developed Dipo?

    The kid who came in as a 3-star, lightly recruited athlete… Increased his scoring, rebounding, assist, shooting, and defensive numbers each year… Became conference DPOY…. Became first team all-conference… Is a national POY candidate… And will be a lottery pick this summer… All from a guy no one outside of the B1G fan base had heard of before this year.

    I get the Zeller cricicisms, but you need to learn when to cut yourself off.

  7. Crean developed Oladipo like he developed Dwyane.

    Against Syracuse Oladipo looked most developed of all.

    Crean’s contribution to Oladipo’s development was on full display during the Syracuse game. It was so obvious, so very shiny. You could not miss it on the telly. It was there.

    Another player who progressed by leaps and bounds under Crean was E. Arnett (baseball).

  8. I heard Alford may be attempting to hire the Park Tudor coach, Ed Schilling, as one of his assistants…

    With the mass exodus the rest of our starters(Watford, Hulls, and assuming Zeller and Oladipo go pro), I wonder if Yogi might consider transferring? Southern California weather would be awfully inviting and he’d have the comfort level of his former high school coach to get adjusted.

  9. I honestly think Jordy could have a bigger NBA career than Oladipo.

  10. btl, there are peoples lives in serious jeopardy because of the total waste of o2 from your post.

  11. t.ladles, go back & read my posts about Cody not developing from last year nor as the season proressed this year. I posted countless times, esp during the Big10 season. While I do think other players have developed under Crean, I can think of one off the top of my head rather quickly, I think his name was Vic..Victor or something. Cody has not & I will comment again, simply one dimensional on offense, catch the ball, turn & face the basket, wait 3 sec, dribble drive in hopes he can get a layup or a dunk or at the very least pray for a foul. The announcers on 2 separate ocassions when Cody cuaght the ball at the foul line, the def player was 5 ft off him, the announcers said, hey, he’s gotta shoot that shot!! Roughly in the Big10 Cody was like 6-30 from 5ft+ from the basket. His turnaround jumper just looks horrible, he has a great looking ft shot????

  12. t.ladles, go back & read my posts about Cody not developing from last year nor as the season proressed this year. I posted countless times, esp during the Big10 season. While I do think other players have developed under Crean, I can think of one off the top of my head rather quickly, I think his name was Vic..Victor or something. Cody has not & I will comment again, simply one dimensional on offense, catch the ball, turn & face the basket, wait 3 sec, dribble drive in hopes he can get a layup or a dunk or at the very least pray for a foul. The announcers on 2 separate ocassions (loss in NCAA) when Cody cuaght the ball at the foul line, the def player was 5 ft off him, the announcers said, hey, he’s gotta shoot that shot!! Roughly in the Big10 Cody was like 6-30 from 5ft+ from the basket. His turnaround jumper just looks horrible, he has a great looking ft shot????

  13. REF: #11 – HfH

    Bahahahahahahahahahaahahaha…..Jordy has no shot to play contributing minutes in the NBA. None. Zero. Average minutes over any, albeit pipe, dream in the NBA will be < 2 / game. He proved it down the stretch. In the NBA teams play 4X / week. In college only 2.

    Bon Voyage Jordy…it's a long flight to Europe. We'll miss you and appreciate you for adding that shot to the program for the last 1.5 years. (Includes and subtracts the last 0.5 that the shot didn't go in.) Shot about 25% in his last month I think.

  14. The recruiting will fall off because Crean’s reputation for being outcoached will supersede his friendly personality at the kitchen table. People will not come here just for a pretty campus or a great student section. The kind of talent it takes to win a championship will want to go where they can improve and develop for the NBA. That isn’t what we have in Btown….and don’t throw D Wade at me……some players could coach themselves and be as successful regardless of their coach. Crean is a great guy but he is on a short leash for the fans will turn on him….because remember….”It’s Indiana”

  15. CTC will retire from IU in 20-30 years. The sooner you accept that the sooner you’ll get a job and move out of Mom’s basement (if you really WANT to move out).

    I feel bad for Steve Alford. I think UCLA is a rat’s nest and it may be a no win situation. I understand he felt like he HAD to give it a shot. I just hope it doesn’t tarnish his brand if it doesn’t work out.

  16. It’s such a bizarre statement to make after seeing the improvements Dipo made under Crean.

    2010 – unheralded recruit
    2011 – useful freshman with potential
    2012 – all-league defender with blossoming offensive skills
    2013 – Naismith and Wooden award finalist and NBA lottery pick

    While Sheehey has not made that ascent, his named is being bandied about as a potential NBA guy. Despite Cody’s lack of visible improvement he will still be a lottery pick when he comes out… Recruits are looking at the bottom line… They aren’t studying every game like us fans. They don’t know that Cody isn’t measurably better than last year. They just know that he’s a star and a lottery pick. Dipo is a star and a lottery pick. Yogi has star potential on the college level. Vonleh and Williams have star potential and will probably be NBA players.

    “The kind of talent it takes to win championships will want to go where they can improve and get ready for the NBA.” Ummm, you’re describing IU’s system.

    (Now if your argument is that 5-star centers may start to avoid IU may have some validity, but its still way too early to tell.)

  17. Oladipo did not possess the offensive skill sets to ever put the Hoosiers on his shoulders and carry us to the Final Four.

    A much improved player, but IU still lacked the true superstar that can pull off what a Trey Burke did for Michigan against Kansas.

    I thought that Cody was going to be that unstoppable force on our talent-rich roster that other teams had no answer. It seems that was the billing from very early on when he was gracing the pages of SI as a preseason POY.

    We had depth. We had an array of versatile talent. We had an Oladipo that was capturing the attention and riding coattails of a Hoosier team that looked like they had all the right pieces to go deep and win it all.

    I don’t think you’ll win championships until you get a true superstar mixed into the equation…a kid that doesn’t need 2-3 years to develop….a scoring machine that can turn it on when a good share of the team has gone cold or simply out of sync. There will always be another Syracuse looming and the only way to get beyond the fiery bunch ready to derail your season is the truly special and complete baller that demands the ball in the moment, delivers the key buckets through sheer savvy and skill a guy that can win any one-on-one match-up when its all on the line. Dipo is fine talent and a great highlight real when it comes to athleticism….But he’s not the complete player that can put a team on his shoulders when the rest are stymied.

  18. Amazing how people attack you on this blog for giving an opinion contrary to theirs.

  19. Harvard,

    You are taking the conversation in another direction…

    But ok, I’ll address it. UM is really the only team in the Final Four with that type of offensive assassin. The only other player that’s really close is Russ Smith, and he is a lot like Dipo, getting his offense in transition and off UL’s pressure defense. He went 0-5 on potential game winners in the 5 OT loss to ND.

    2012 – UK won with overwhelming talent, but their top players were better on defense than offense.
    2010 – Duke won with offensive balance, but I wouldn’t call Smith, Singler, or Scheyer dominant offensive weapons where you just give them the ball and get out da way.
    2009 – UNC’s top scorer was Hansborough, but he did it more with effort than superior offensive skill. Ellington, their 2nd leading scorer, was more of a catch and shoot guy.
    2008 – Kansas’s leading scorer was Rush at 13 ppg
    2007 & 2006 – Florida… Stop me when I get to an offensive juggernaut… Horford, Noah, Brewer, Torian Green… No? No one?

    So out of the last 7 NCAA champions there has basically been one team that won on the back of an offensive assassin… A guy you just give the ball to and say, “go get us a bucket!”… UConn in 2011 with Kemba Walker.

    Listen, only one team wins every year, and lots of teams have guys that are offensively ready when they get to college. UCLA had a lot of talent, size, an experienced PG, a coach thats been to multiple Final Fours, and a guy who could get you 30 if you asked him. They didn’t make it too far if I remember.

    I’m just not sure there’s an exact formula or a specific type of player you need to give yourself a chance to win a title. My best guess is that you need to collect as much talent as possible, be able to get them to gel, be able to get stops and rebound, get hot at the end of the year, and hope you get a little lucky with your draw.

    I think with a little more size at guard, and a little more toughness down low IU can win with their same exact style of play and amount of talent.

  20. ‘Harvard. You are taking the conversation in another direction’…….

    Now that’s funny

  21. Do you feel attacked?! I simply made a contrary argument.

    Feel free to back up your point that players aren’t developing under Crean so he will lose out on future recruits.

    I agree that Zeller has not improved. Watford was never going to be an NBA player… he doesnt have the athleticism to compete at his position. He basically reached his potential early in his career.

    No rational human can say that other players on the team haven’t developed their games or improved their NBA stock. When they were inked at IU their wasn’t a single person, outside of their entourages, that thought Dipo, Sheehey, or Hills would be on the NBA radar. Dipo is a lottery pick. Sheehey is getting mentioned in circles as guy who could play at the next level, and Hulls got an invite to Portsmouth.

    There is no reason to think that Crean can’t make similar strides with more talented perimeter players like Robinson or Williams and turn them into very good college players and/or first round picks. Although Crean has some weaknesses, he seems like he is a master of motivating kids to work in the off-season and come back improved versions of themselves.

  22. Think you need to look at Crean as in a CEO position. There are areas that may need improvement. The right mix of assistants and the understanding to utilize them will spell success. I have noticed some of the later season timeouts, the assistants where doing most of the talking.

    Pretty sure CTC understands that.

    After the miserable results for Jordy, last what 5-6 games, how ironic whould it be if he won the 3-point contest. With that being said, Good Luck Jordy.

  23. Geoff, when you wrote “no rational human can say …..” You’re not always debating rational humans on this site.

    Anyway, I think you won the debate and your post was very good. Furthermore, while IU’s depth was much better this year, it was still not where it needed to be and it was not as strong as the other teams that made it to the final four. IU’s vaunted freshman class, with the exception of Yogi, did not live up to the hype (which would have been impossible). Two big guys suspended for nine games (due to the corrupt NCAA) retarded their development, but even so, they would not have been major contributors through the Big Ten season. Hollowell is good, but obviously needed a lot more physical strength. He is likely to make major strides this offseason. Our senior muscle, Elston, injured his knee during midnight madness and was never able to make a major contribution this season.

    I believe, overall, that Crean got as much out of the talent he had this year as was possible. Furthermore, I believe you will see some of this year’s key subs make significant improvement by next season. And with the incoming talent, IU should be more athletic and have greater depth next season. Whether they will play together as well as this team did will be the key question. If Zeller stays another year, gets about 20 pounds bigger/stronger and improves his range on offense, next year’s IU team will be very tough to beat. And I predict that you will see Yogi make significant improvement in his outside shooting and his pull-up jumper, which will more than adequately replace Hull’s offensive contributions.

    The bottom line is, regardless of the hype that elevated expectations so high, Crean is still building this program. And given his proven skill as a recruiter, their is no rational reason to expect that IU basketball’s trajectory is anything but inclined upward (emphasis on the word rational).

  24. How about something at least approaching ‘superstar’ talent?

    But I don’t think an entirely “developmental” strategy gets you there. Oladipo carried himself like he was the coolest cat in the alley. The plugging of the nose gesture was very impressive after a highlight reel play, but I still don’t see a player that took that swagger and backed it up with a full arsenal of talents on the court. I didn’t see the control going into traffic..I didn’t see the craftiness it takes to manufacture points when he had a clamp-down defender. I didn’t see a leader that could rally his team through a drought.

    Maybe it’s more a “superstar mentality” combined with superstar(or near superstar)basketball skills. Individualistic thought took over our team. There were times when the sum looked so much greater than examination its individual parts, but those games were rare.

    Maybe those championship teams have lots of superstars in understanding the balance. Say what you will about Calipari’s recruiting practices…When he had all that talent in 2012, it wouldn’t have ended in a championship without the balance. It moves often in flux and individuals turned off the showboating and the temptations to put their full skills on display if it was detrimental to the final goal. He took a bunch of potential NBA “superstars” and got them to focus and play as a team.

    Maybe Crean is incapable of projecting the humble heart that even a “superstar” most possess for a team to truly come together. Maybe the focus is to out of balance in the development of the individual rather than the team….? Maybe I’m changing the definition of a “superstar?” Maybe superstars have to mature and they need the proper leader and example from the sideline to keep them grounded and achieve a balance that maximizes team success while not imparting too much restraint when individual talent must take over in a game?

  25. The two “big guys” that got the nine game suspensions were projects that would have made little difference. They are grossly lacking in basketball savvy.

    This team had plenty of talent. It lacked cohesiveness and control. It lacked discipline. We heard a lot of preaching about brotherhood, but my eyes never saw it on the court. I didn’t see guys playing for each other. I saw a lot of power-playing. I saw the dumping of talent molecules onto a floor with little direction the proper bonding to harness it into something approaching lethal matter. A waste of talent molecules as I watched no magnetism…no gravitational desire…no natural bonding..no steady cohesiveness. Too much pouring too many molecules together disrupting the proper polarity a team. Too much oxygen from the bench. Too little of quiet direction to let the bonds figure it out. Nothing wrong with the lab..The problem is in the science.

    Our team was like the ‘new’ dark matter.

  26. Well Harvard, now you’re just all over the place. You keep moving the target and talking about traits that are hard to qualify or different to different people.

    McLemore has superstar qualities and talent, but he disappeared in the tourney and Kansas lost.

    Marcus Smart has superstar qualities and talent, but OK ST was “upset” in the first round.

    Shabazz Muhammed has superstar qualities and talent, but UCLA didn’t make the 2nd round.

    I’m not sure there is anyone in the Final Four this year that projects as an NBA all-star.

    There were only 2 guys on last years UK team that were considered potential NBA superstars, but they took the 4th and 5th most shots on that team and were drafted for their defense and versatility.

    The truth is that most college championship teams don’t have NBA all-stars on them. The only NBA all-stars from any champion in the last decade are Horford and Noah, which speaks more to the crap that passes as centers today than anything else. The last bona fide superstar to win a NCAA title was Melo in 2003.

  27. Shabazz Muhammed has superstar qualities and talent, but UCLA didn’t make the 2nd round.

    Didn’t UCLA lose their standout freshman point guard? Jordan Adams?

  28. No they lost their standout freshman shooting guard Jordan Adams…. Not sure what your point is though. They still had 3 other McDonald’s AA’s, the former starting PG for UNC, and the Wear twins on the roster.

  29. Not to disrupt the party, but are any of you guys reading the So Cal press on Steve Alford? Wow, they’re writing vicious attack articles already. This morning’s Orange County Register’s lead article dredged up all that old news about the Iowa player, from 12 years ago, that was accused of rape and was eventually kicked off the team. The article just savages Alford for defending his player, expressing his belief that the kid was innocent, when the first set of accusations went public. Yep, it’s clear that the LA area sports writers are not happy about Alford being hired as the new UCLA coach, and they’re in full attack mode. They’re calling him a “robot”, implying that he’s a liar, and questioning his integrity for a variety of perceived inconsistencies. I have not seen this kind of an attack in a long, long time. The UCLA AD sounds like he’s been blind-sided by the attacks and is in defense mode.

  30. We’re stuck with Crean. Why obsess? Alford is irrelevant to our future. IU basketball is irrelevant for six more months…At least UCLA is getting press. ESPN will likely do a special on the hire…It will be hosted by Bob Knight. It will be followed by a rerun of the Kentucky special…blah..blah…blah.

    Let’s get fired up for Hoosier football! Maybe it can compete with UCLA football one day…Two major successful sports programs.,,Isn’t that what it’s all about? UCLA fans are morons. We gave them Wooden and they still don’t get it. And besides the plethora of Indiana roots and b-ball knowledge that comes with Alford’s suitcase hiding that dirty Iowa underwear, if they merely get access to Knight’s play designs by way of the hire, they’re already light years ahead every other team in the Pac 12. He’ll likely be legendary..Probably win more titles than Wooden by the time he retires in 2035. Christ, he’ll teach those surfer hippies how to make a free throw.

  31. Remember how people were throwing Jim Crews under the bus for some controversial treatment of players at Army?

    Majerus didn’t buy into crucifying the man. Literally begged him back into coaching. Now Crews is held up by those in the media like the classiest man in college basketball.

    Not all men are as flawless as Tom Crean…or Podunker…or Geoff.

    Thursday, September 24, 2009 – 8:33 PM UTC

    Watch out, Chris.

    You made fun of Bobby.

    The worshipers will soon be sending you death threats and burning you in effigy.

    See how it works here? Korman is gone. Jim Crews just received the second most votes for National Coach of the Year. So much for snidely haters and sarcasm. Unlike our coach, Rick Majerus saw beyond the headlines and the hypocrisy. Long live the Establishment.

  32. Sorta fun to revisit old posts….Somebody mentioned McGary on this thread from 2010, but did it matter much..Nah..The topic of the day was always 4gurards’ obsession.

    Wednesday, May 19, 2010 – 12:34 PM UTC

    Bash a kid who won a state title over Dawson with 20 pts and 26 rbs. Praise a guy with more size who averaged 7 pts and 7 rbs at a JUCO out in Idaho. You have no credibility.
    What I really believe is that you have no faith in Crean being able to land him(Zeller), so you are rolling out the excuses even earlier than usual.

    Husky Tom
    Wednesday, May 19, 2010 – 1:56 PM UTC

    Afraid of not landing Zeller? It would make my day, 4guards. While IU should feel bad about not getting in on guys like Gordon Hayward and Greg Oden in the past, it is a blessing in disguise that the Plumlees and the Zellers have had such contempt for IU.

    I’m afraid, however, has already bought into the Plumlee/Zeller hype machine. For that, and that only, I fault him. It’s not that I think that Bawa and Michel are better. What I think is that they are all risky projects. It’s not like we are comparing BMWs with Ford Focuses here.

    Husky Tom
    Wednesday, May 19, 2010 – 1:56 PM UTC

    ..oops…”I am afraid that CREAN has already bought into the Smeller/Dumblee hype machine…”

    Yup. They did buy in…And now McGary is ready to play in a Final Four.

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