Reports: Kevin Wilson to become Ohio State offensive coordinator

Kevin Wilson isn’t going far.

In fact, he’s not leaving the division.

Wilson is set to become Ohio State’s next offensive coordinator, according to Fox Sports’ Bruce Feldman and IU blog Crimson Quarry. Wilson officially resigned as Indiana’s coach on Dec. 1 due to what athletic director Fred Glass deemed philosophical differences.

Wilson and Ohio State coach Urban Meyer have long shared a mutual admiration for one another. While Meyer was at Bowling Green and Wilson was on Randy Walker’s staff at Northwestern, members of the two staffs met during the summer of 2001 to discuss philosophies and share ideas. Meyer has said that, over the years, he and his staffers have taken some of the same concepts used by Wilson and incorporated them in his offense.

Ohio State lost offensive coordinator Tim Beck to Texas this week, opening the door for a Wilson-Meyer partnership.

“If Kevin Wilson becomes offensive coordinator at Ohio State, they will be 2017 National Champions,” former IU receiver Shane Wynn tweeted on Tuesday.

28 comments

  1. Magically, Wilson will once again be able to recruit and develop top quality Quarterbacks.

    Most people predicted Wilson’s next job after IU would be as an OC for a national powerhouse program. My guess is that he will never be a D-1 head coach again, but will remain an OC for the remainder of his career. I’d wish him luck, but since he’s going to OSU, he won’t need it.

  2. Wilson will be a head coach again. He won’t take a gamble on bringing a program out of the dregs of all NCAA schools again. It would likely be a mid-major school. I think he’d do really well there.

    By coaching at OSU, he’ll deepen his recruiting connections, especially in the midwest where he’s already been. I would be surprised to see him sit in the booth the rest of his career. KW might be deficient in a lot of things, but guts isn’t one of them. He’ll take another whack at being a HC . He’s only 55.

  3. Would that be a promotion…demotion…lateral move?

    If there is one thing I’ve noticed about OSU and Alabama it is that they seem to have a fair number of former head coaches on staff.

    1. Precisely. Coaches with skills who need a little rehabilitation of their reputation. Gain some hardware and move to a coaching vacancy with a little more perspective and wisdom.

      Unless, of course, you’re Lane Kiffin. As Scott Van Pelt was quoted as saying, “Kiffin is just unable to stick the dismount.”

  4. does everyone still think it is a good idea now to play Ohio State on a Thursday night on national TV??? you have a team that will be very upset about being shutout in the college playoff game and a team that has hire the school ex-head coach to run their offensive!! I thinking there might be a little payback coming IU way…IMO, I can see Ohio State beating IU by 30-40 points in next years meeting.

  5. All those hideous accusations and OSU is willing to take a chance on a very verbally abusive ex-INDIANA(?) coach to run their offense? Yup, sounds like we just lost a very brilliant football mind. Well, at least we got a tame one over at Assembly.

  6. Outstanding choice by Meyer for his team needing offensive direction. Could not be a better move for the man who changed the FB culture at IU. How ironic for Allen’s 1st conference game to be against the offense of the man that brought him to the B1G. CAN’T WAIT!

  7. IU79, Yes I think it is a good idea for IU to start with OSU in 2017. Why, that is the schedule and you embrace the schedule if you are a coach and player. I doubt any team is going to bear IU in 2017 by 30 or 40 points with the defense we have coming back. Is it possible to loss that way, of course it can happen even to OSU against the right opponent.

    I wish Coach Wilson the best and know that he has top athletes to fit into his offense. This move will give him a chance to finish his career as a HC again if he chooses.

  8. Chet, I grew up in eastern Ohio during the 1st half of my teenage years after being born and raised a Hoosier during adolescence. What I know about football was originated, instilled and formed in the Buckeye. With that I have a great deal of admiration, appreciation and respect for Wilson and the heavy lifting he accomplished for IU football. The Scoop would not have much football commenting if not for Wilson. It remains a most positive move for Wilson, Meyer and OSU as he’ll make them stronger.

  9. I don’t doubt that all of that is true. That is Meyer’s MO. He tends to have staffs full of very recognizable names. Same with Saban. That’s probably why they are head and shoulders above of every other college coach in the country IMHO.

    I don’t want either program to succeed at the expense of IU.

    Speaking of the rich getting richer, I think Steve Sarkisian will be a major upgrade for Alabama over Kiffin assuming he can keep his demons at bay. Also, Kiffin may have found a level where he can be successful. I don’t doubt that Kiffin knows football but that guy obviously has some serious character issues. Everyone seems happier when he leaves…except maybe Tennessee. They just hated him.

  10. I’ll concede that Wilson could become a head coach for a mid-major program, but I still doubt it. Wilson has a losing record as a head coach. Wilson has never produced a winning season as a head coach. Wilson is 55 years old. By the time his stint at OSU is complete, he’ll be in his late 50’s, and these college head coaching jobs are not getting any less demanding or stressful. And Wilson will probably make more money as OSU’s OC than he would as the head coach at any mid-major program in the country. But I guess the main reason I have my doubts about Wilson becoming a D-1 head coach again is that he just does not seem to have the personality required or the desire to deal with all the b___ s___ that head coaches must deal with from the media, alumni and the University Administration. I think you have to be a skilled politician to be an effective head college coach these days, and Wilson is no politician. I think he wants to coach and is happy to leave the other bs to someone else. Wilson does not suffer fools well. I think he knows he’s smarter than most people and his personality does not allow him to tolerate having some administrator looking of his shoulder in what he must see as an increasingly sensitive PC culture that has taken over universities and their Athletic Departments. Reading between the lines of what Glass has said since Wilson “resigned,” I take it that Wilson was as happy to get out from under Glass as Glass was to get Wilson off campus. I think Wilson was chafing under the oversight being administered by Glass and probably resented the hell out of what he must have perceived as meddling in his program, such as a law firm being hired to investigate the complaints of a few “injured” players on two separate occasions. If, in the eyes of Glass, Wilson was guilty of being verbally insensitive to a few of his players, than Wilson must have thought, “O.K., so what? What’s the big deal? It’s a common technique used to develop physical and mental toughness in these young men.” At some point, Wilson must have thought he had walked through the looking glass. No doubt he was terminated due to the hangover IU still has from the debacle that was IU’s firing of Bob Knight.

  11. Do you really think that RMK somehow entered into the thought process on this?

    I guess that’s possible but I don’t think too many people give him much thought anymore. Certainly not as part of any decision making process. The only time his name comes up is when we have yet another reunion of a basketball team and he disses them yet again.

    That’s ancient history to most people and, for the most part, even the people who used to care don’t anymore.

    IMHO

  12. Actually, that was an excellent post by Podunker. I had similar thoughts a few weeks back(immediately after the accusations and the media getting hold of the formal investigative letter Glass sent to Wilson) under the category of “broken trust” and “political correctness.”
    Once a coach is accused of not having the well-being of his players as his top priority, it’s pretty much game over. Did Wilson ever override the recommendations of a medical expert? It sounds like he hurt feelings more than anything else. He sounds like he was an a-hole at times. It sounds like he was a typical person who has bad days and good days at the job. But was he a person to put his kids in harms way when medical staff was telling him they weren’t ready?
    He was given the ‘zero tolerance’ warning over things that seem of little concern to OSU.

    I said it many times on here…Wilson was the Bobby Knight of IU Football. He spit in the eye of bosses who know nothing of ways to motivate into the locker rooms they attempt to meddle. He was happily flawed. He wasn’t into selling the “holier-than-thou” crap on twitter. He had an intellect for the game he taught that was intimidating to other coaches at IU. He was too smart for his own good. But outside of the handful of accusations, there seems to be quite the amount of ex-players who praise and admire him for his independent confidence that flowed into their own belief systems.

  13. Yes, I think IU still has scar tissue leftover from RMK’s firing. Not just how RMK was fired, but the lack on institutional control that lead to his firing. And that raises the question, had Wilson produced nine wins over the last two seasons, would he have been terminated? Think about it. Would players have been as likely to complain about Wilson had he produced winning seasons? Would Glass have risked destroying the progress made by firing a coach that had lead IU to winning football seasons? Everyone loves a winner, and winners are usually given the benefit of the doubt. Firing a winner is far more “expensive” and difficult than firing someone who never produced a winning season. In relative terms, it was easy and inexpensive for Glass to fire Wilson. I believe Glass saw the termination of Wilson as nipping a problem in the bud.

  14. Institutional control….? If we only knew how much corruption and pandering goes on between big dollar donors, influential businessmen, and scuzzy lawyers to secure incompetent people into lifetime jobs…Institutional control is a great term for those who build the hierarchy in committee rooms on their own terms to remain forever untouchable.
    Knight told the truly corrupt what they could do with their institutional control….as did Wilson.

  15. Sure, it probably wasn’t a single issue. Of course, it depends on how big a deal it was and I doubt we’ll ever hear the details. I’m still impressed with the information clamp down on Curt Miller’s departure.

    Certainly, if the details were ugly enough, once would do the trick. Ask Art Briles and Ken Starr about that.

    I’m inclined to think it was more like Sampson. He got busted, was told to stop, said he would, and repeated the same behavior. I’m guessing Glass was backed into a corner in which he saw only one way out. Thinking back to your post regarding RMK, it may well have been a case of the coach deciding he was bigger than the institution and being advised otherwise. Maybe that did figure into it.

    I doubt we’ll ever hear the gory details. Glass really does an amazing job of keeping a lid on things you wouldn’t think possible to keep quiet.

  16. I think we know most of the details, and I don’t think there is anything more substantial than Wilson being in the habit of ridiculing or “challenging” injured players, which as I’ve said, is not an unusual tactic for coaches. But Glass viewed Wilson’s behavior as a threat to IU’s reputation and it’s treasury, and he wanted to put a stop to such behavior once and for all. When Wilson proved unable or unwilling to comply with the directive from Glass, he was fired. I think that’s the end of the story. But would Glass have done that had Wilson won 9 or ten games in each of the last two seasons? Maybe, or maybe not. Glass is the lawyer, so he is in better position to assess the risks associated with tolerating Wilson’s habit of hassling/ridiculing players who had complained of being injured.

    My brother-in-law was an All American for Tennessee back in the 70’s. He told me a story of a highly coveted and extremely talented player who broke his arm during practice. He reported to the team’s trainers with an arm that was obviously injured. The trainers told him to ice it and return to practice the next day, when it was wrapped and taped. The player was told to continue practicing and playing and that they would fix the arm after the season was over. He refused and quit the team the next day. The player’s home town doctor set the arm and put a cast on it, telling the player that if he had done what the trainer had said to do, his arm would have been amputated. The family’s lawyer contacted U of T and threatened legal action. He demanded a rather large cash settlement and that the trainer involved be fired immediately. In exchange, he would not go public with the story. Both demands were met, and the player went on to be an All Conference player for a D-1 team in another conference, and had the nicest car on campus.

  17. Kevin Wilson should have coached players like Tyra Buss from ladies basketball team. She gets knocked around all the time and plays even when she is hurting. She doesn’t come out of games because of it. She probably looks at it as a badge of honor.

  18. I agree with PO and H4H about the Wilson situation but with the idea that Wilson’s approach helped IUFB reach 6 wins and scaring the top schools when they played us. However I now think he may have reached his limit of wins in a season because his reputation was hurting IU at least when it came to QBs coming to IU. Players put up with a lot from coaches but their is an invisible line where the best won’t come and will go to other programs. IU saw this with top rated Indiana QBs [rated in the top 3 in the country] choose to leave Indiana to go to school. I can’t say for sure Wilson’s demeanor and reputation caused this other than in the case of Gunner Kiel.

    After all that has happened I think OC is the perfect job for coach Wilson and I hope he stays at that level unless he can get to a major college that accepts their FB coach’s good to outweigh being a bit of a jerk.

  19. I’m of the mind G. Kiel’s career turned out to be a cluster______. If he would have came to IU no doubt his performance(s) could have been record setting under Wilson.

    Too much over thinking in the want of attaching RMK to Wilson. RMK had no more to do with Wilson/ Glass in 2016 than Wilson had with RMK/Idiots years before. Just don’t fit.

  20. RFK’s firing and all the turmoil that occurred after that is certainly remembered by IU’s administrators. And while it fades more with each passing year, there is still sensitivity and caution that results from that protracted experience. It’s like a case study! And I’m sure Glass has studied the decisions that were made and the processes that eventually allowed that debacle to occur. Given the many lawsuits that were adjudicated for years after Knight left, the scars may have halted, but they’re still visible. There’s no direct connection, but I assure you the lessons learned from that case will not soon be forgotten or repeated by IU’s administration. And I think the main lesson is that at IU, no coach, no matter how successful, is ever going to be allowed to become bigger than the team, the Athletic Department or the University. Would Wilson have been handled differently had he won 9 games this year? Probably, but he’d have been sanctioned in one form or the other. As Glass had made clear, he is the boss. And as he has stated in several media interviews, Glass simply will not tolerate behavior from any coach that is inconsistent with the University’s values, standards and policies. That’s one reason why IU hired a prominent lawyer to be the AD in the first place. That may not have been the case at Oklahoma, but Wilson had not yet earned the benefit of the doubt.

  21. HC, you are right about Kiel’s career but Wilson getting into it with his older brother sent Gunner away from IU. I think the clusterf*** was due as much to Gunner’s personal issues as it did with any coaching he got.

    I hope with the new coaches IU can pull in 4 or 5 star QBs to rack up the yardage and TDs that come as part of this offense once they see the success that comes from attending IU. Despite the huge yardage and TD passes the truth is no Wilson QB at IU completed more than 60% if his passes. I hope this offense allows QBs to routinely complete 65% to over 72% if their passes [based on a number of short throws and runs by receivers]. This will bring in better QBs but also better WRs and TEs because their # of catches will increase with the completion % increasing. Just improving to 65 – 68% would bring big benefits.

  22. v13, taking Gunner Kiel out of the equation, I never felt Wilson’s performance in either recruiting or developing QBs at IU lived up to his inflated reputation as a QB guru. As I’ve said before, it was a lot easier to recruit great QB talent for Oklahoma than it was for IU. And the fact that a) Wilson did not recruit Sudfeld, b) two talented former starting QBs transferred in the same year, and 3) Wilson left in his wake an INT machine and three QBs that have not run 20 plays between them, tells me that DeBord and Watson are likely to improve IU quarterbacks’ performance in the years to come. Wilson was not terrible, but he just was not as good as advertised.

  23. Po, I think you’re on target. I kept waiting for Wilson to recruit or develop a great quarterback and it never happened. Nate turned out pretty good but it’s hard to know how much credit to give Wilson.

    Other than Nate we’ve seen nothing.

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