Hoosier Morning for Feb. 13

1. HOOSIERS HQ
Indiana fell flat against Michigan in the latest blow to its dwindling postseason hopes, Mike writes.

Tom Crean and the Hoosiers took another hit Sunday, and fans are no longer finding a reason to believe, I wrote.

From Saturday, IU women’s basketball saw its plan come together on defense against Northwestern, I wrote.

2. IT’S INDIANA
Fans are foolishly clamoring for Tom Crean’s head as the IU season goes sideways, Bob Kravitz of WTHR.com writes.

It should be no surprise that Indiana’s mess of a season continued on Sunday against Michigan, Pete DiPrimio of the Fort Wayne News-Sentinel writes.

Tom Crean is getting as tired of this IU team as the fans, Gregg Doyel of the Indianapolis Star writes.

The early glory of this IU season is just a fading memory now, Zach Osterman of the Indianapolis Star writes.

Indiana’s recent 3-point shooting woes have left Crean perplexed, Terry Hutchens of CNHI writes.

It wasn’t just that Michigan won at Indiana, but how it won that was impressive, Brendan F. Quinn of MLive.com writes.

Sunday’s loss might have been the worst yet for the fading Hoosiers, Jeff Eisenberg of Yahoo.com writes.

The Hoosiers laid an egg, Tom Crean’s feeling the pressure and other takeaways from Sunday’s loss, Alex Bozich of Inside the Hall writes.

The longstanding relationship of Nick Sheridan and Mike Debord is set to continue with the IU football team, Teddy Bailey of the Indianapolis Star writes.

3. ONE FOR THE ROAD
In deference to the Hoosiers falling flat, here’s Arcade Fire with “Sprawl I (Flatland).”

13 comments

  1. I guess you can interpret the coach’s comments any way you like but it sure sounds like he describes the team as being poorly coached. He says’ “It all falls on me,” but then he goes on to explain how his players don’t seem to have any idea what they are doing.

    Who is supposed to be imparting that information to them?

    1. More Group Thinkin’ this morning.

      Saw this over on the Rivals board:

      Years 6, 7, 8 & 9 (through Purdue game) in the Crean Era:

      All Games……………………………………………………79 – 47
      All games vs Ken Pom Top 100……………………35 – 40
      All games vs Ken Pom 100+…………………………44 – 7

      Pre Conference Overall………………………………..40 – 12
      Pre Conference KenPom Top 100………………..8 – 8
      Pre Conference KenPom 100+……………………..32 – 4

      Big Ten Overall…………………………………………….36 – 30
      Big Ten KenPom Top 100……………………………..26 – 27
      Big Ten KenPom 100+…………………………………..10 – 3

      Big Ten Tourney Overall………………………………..1 – 3
      Big Ten Tourney KenPom Top 100…………………0 – 3
      Big Ten Tourney KenPom 100+………………………1 – 0

      NCAA Overall…………………………………………………2 – 2
      NCAA KenPom Top 100………………………………….1 – 2
      NCAA KenPom 100+……………………………………….1 – 0

  2. What happens when a IU player commits a foolish turnover? Does he get a good tongue lashing and a seat on the bench? No. He gets TC running up the sideline clapping encouragement. How does a player ever learn to value the basketball if there are never any consequences for not doing so ? The Tom Crean era has been plagued with turnovers but yet the man has never found a solution for the problem. Fundamentally sound basketball is not taught at IU. It’s more like playground basketball.

    1. RAM, I don’t think it matters whether Tom yells at them, or he encourages or if he stands on his hands. Turnovers happen because these kids play with atrocious fundamentals. They don’t know how to play together. This has been a staple of Crean’s teams since the beginning. Commentators loved to say how IU would inevitably turn the ball over because of their pace of play. Funny how most of the turnovers occur in just the places where that isn’t the case: inbounds plays, half-court, and just silly stupid stuff.

      Guys like Kravitz, who think that it is foolish to consider that we’ve peaked with this program, keep pointing to the 2 B1G Championships, while not even acknowledge the poor fundamentals that are displayed with regularity…for 9 years, even when they’ve had their handful of decent seasons.

  3. DD,
    Nicely done crossing that t. Posting statistically what we’ve all been trying to descriptively state. Paints the whole picture in color.

  4. The strawman arguments are out of hand right now. Crean has had some success. He’s had some decent talent. But there has been no consistency, nor has there been any measure of hope after 9 years that show we can improve beyond where we are right now. If our football team had the equivalent success, I would be so happy I couldn’t be contained.

    But this isn’t the standard we should have for Indiana BB. We signed the 13th largest endorsement deal with Adidas, we have brand new facilities that are second to none, a sports tech innovation center and a redone Assembly Hall. There is no reason we should EVER think that Indiana can’t reach the heights we’ve been at in the past.

    Those empty seats at AH was the single most depressing thing I’ve seen besides the poor play on the court. Those seats were full when we won only 6 and 10 games. No matter how much guys like Kravitz can whine that it is unfair, I think we’re spent after a decade realizing that this is as good as it is gonna get.

    It’s going to take leadership to get there.

  5. How about some more data?

    – Nebraska, who took it to us at home this year WHEN WE WERE HEALTHY, is now 10-14 and in their last 9 B1G games is 1-8.

    – Indiana is LAST in the B1G in PPP allowed with 1.11. Worse the Illinois, Nebraska, Ohio State and……….RUTGERS. We’re worse than Rutgers.

  6. It only takes one recruit to change everything….

    Doesn’t it seem like yesterday when all of Hoosier Nation was riding a euphoric high in discovering Crean had successfully lured Cody?

    Everything hinges on Langford…..

  7. How about some more data…?

    -Victor Oladipo had a national ranking #144(Rivals). Taking NBA by storm next to Russell Westbrook.
    -OG Anunoby(3 star) was once found at #280(247Sports.com). If he would have remained healthy, his stock was rising so fast that he would have likely been a Top-10 draft pick. OG OUT FOR SEASON.
    -College basketball Hall of Fame great, top aficionado, and ESPN analyst, BILL WALTON, has always considered Colin Hartman to be of key importance for Hoosiers success. HARTMAN OUT FOR SEASON.
    -GAME CHANGER STILL OUT THERE: O Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?
    Everything hinges on Romeo Langford.

    Not having OG and Hartman available is akin to our Zeller years without Zeller. You torch-carrying program burners need to get a life.

    Given the reality of the setbacks obvious to any objective and impartial eye, Fred Glass has no intention of letting Tom Crean go.

    Sincerely,
    Your friendly neighborhood apologist.

  8. It’s nice to read article on Wichita State bb from the Wichita Eagle regarding player attitude and bb from the coach after beating a not so good Loyola team on the road by 17.
    Wichita State has chance to return to top 25 ranking. Player attitude; “that’s nice but we are going to continue to work hard.”
    Coaching IQ; after player shuts down Loyola top offensive player 3 for 13 shooting “he plays because of his defense. He has shut down a lot of players.”
    I know Wichita State is not in major conference, but the coach and players know how to win.

  9. Of course the players don’t play together as a team. 41 substitutions last game. One + per game minute and that’s down from earlier games. Granted, CTC is trying different combinations but I still believe the subs are due to his nervous energy.

    So with the production of the guards down, start giving Green & Jones the minutes. Play big with Bryant & Davis plus whoever. Make a change at halftime if needed and go back to the usual lineup. Might as well get the guys ready for next year, whoever the coach may be. The way it’s going now, the NIT may be a pipe dream.

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