Allen explains end-of-half thought process at FIU

As the first half of Saturday’s season opener at Florida International wound down, Indiana had a chance to add to what was a 14-point advantage.

Instead, the Hoosiers didn’t cash in.

IU got as far as the FIU 30-yard line, where its drive ended after coach Tom Allen opted to shoot for the end zone rather than attempt an approximate 47-yard field goal in the final seconds with new placekicker Logan Justus making his college debut.

“We had a headwind at the time, they had gotten a lot of push in the interior and if you recall we had not kicked a field goal up to that point,” Allen said. “So I did not want it to be his first field goal in that kind of environment and that situation. So unless we got the ball well inside the 25 we basically were just going to — we did not want them to get the ball another snap. We knew we were going to get it in the third quarter. In some ways it was a little bit of a conservative type approach to the way we ended it.”

Indiana moved well into FIU territory moments earlier through the help of receiver Nick Westbrook, whose back-to-back receptions advanced the ball from the Indiana 49 to the Panthers’ 35 with 32 seconds remaining. After the second of those catches, 17 seconds ticked off the clock before play was stopped for an IU timeout with 15 seconds left on the game clock.

Allen said he told the official he wanted to stop the clock with 20 seconds remaining. But that didn’t happen.

“I look up and there’s 15 seconds on the clock,” Allen said. “And so (I) talked to the officials about it and they’re just like, well, there was no real answer for that, so they did not choose to put those five seconds back on the clock.”

Coming out of the timeout, quarterback Peyton Ramsey converted on fourth-and-three at the FIU 35 with a five-yard pass to Luke Timian before using the team’s final timeout with 10 seconds left. The half ended with Ramsey throwing away his first-down pass, then rolling out and heaving to Westbrook in the end zone. The ball was knocked down and the half ended.

“Bottom line was unless we were going to get the ball inside the 20 area I was not going to kick a long field goal,” Allen said. “I didn’t want to get a blocked field goal and give them any momentum going into halftime. I felt like we had a chance (to score a touchdown). We had some bigger receivers, try to take a shot at the end zone. I wanted to get two shots in the end zone was kind of my initial plan, and I thought that the one we did throw at the end to Nick, I wanted him to go up and get that ball. … So that was kind of how I played that out. It kind of was multiple reasons — the headwind was No. 1 and then they were getting a real good push. Long field goals are low, typically, and I didn’t want to create any momentum for them going into halftime.”


  1. I’m glad someone asked him about what appeared to be a simple case of clock mismanagement. Sounds like he had some help from the referees in screwing up those last 30 seconds. I’m sure he will improve his clock management and be more inclined to attempt 47 yard field goals as the competition improves. IU’s offense looked good in the first game, and it’s going to need to score a lot of points this season if IU is going to finally break through.

    1. If IU is up 14 at the same point of the game against PSU don’t expect any change from this conservative approach. The reasons Coach Allen articulated are unchanging.

  2. My concern about the thought process at the end of the half was the conservative approach coach Allen took. For IU to break through, this year or next, IU has to take some chances and be successful with a majority of them. IU doesn’t have enough talent to go against the top teams and not take chances. I hope to see IU more aggressive this year to try and win games.

    1. I agree…in principle.

      That being said, IU wins this game unless they do something boneheaded. That might include blowing a two touchdown lead going into halftime by trying a long field goal into the wind that gets blocked and returned for a touchdown.

      Sometimes you don’t know something would have been a bad decision because you didn’t go there.

    2. IU was up 14 and got the ball to start the second half. We did win the game and the chance you suggest was not required.

  3. I can’t help but wonder if the pass had been completed to Westbrook for the touchdown, if everyone would be praising Coach Allen for going for the touchdown instead of “settling” for the field goal.

  4. I applaud T.A. for going for the TD, but that’s not the issue. There was a lot of time wasted during the last 30 seconds of the first half. Now we know that the refs had a part in that. I’m pretty sure the commentators on T.V. mentioned it at the time. I would have preferred an attempt to pass for a TD, then attempting the field goal with no time left on the clock.

    v13, I believe T.A. is by nature a conservative coach. Most defensive coaches are. But you’re right. If IU is going to break through this season, T.A. is going to have to take some risks, and taking the training wheels off his kicker is a good place to start. Under Wilson, we had “the riverboat gambler.” I thought Wilson acted like a degenerate gambler at times. T.A. is certainly different than Wilson in the risks he’s willing to take.

  5. Love TA! A great DC, one of the best in the country. But I am puzzled as to why Glass thinks A DC or an OC or any type of coordinator can fix this program. If you have not lead a college level program with a full staff you have succeeded with in past, how can you come into a big ten HC job and fix while you learn? Again I think the world of TA, but now have many years on his contract and hope he can quickly learn how to run a division one big ten program while fixing it. I like the upgrades to facilities but I see the same product every year.

    1. Cali,
      Why would he believe a DC or an OC could fix the problem? There is evidence out there which shows one can and plenty of IU tries with former head coaches which failed. The second worst D1 FB program in history was fixed by a former OC at Kansas State. IU may be the worst in history but outside of paying Saban 20 m a year to come fix it, not sure if anyone else could.

  6. Po, don’t make generalizations as I started out as a defensive coach and DC but I was agressive on defense and then aggressive when I called offense as a head coach. Coach Allen is an aggressive defensive coach so I hope he ends up being agressive when deciding offensive strategy as he needs to be to get IU over the top. Without question coach Allen’s decisions on offensive strategy last year was conservative but I hope that was due to not having a very good offense and having a very good defense influencing his decisions.

    bterry61, good point about the play call at the end of the half as I saw that as an aggressive decision on offense. Connecting on that pass would have had people overjoyed with the end of the first half.

  7. Vesuvius, hope you are right. But history doesn’t support it. And brohm does not seem to be struggling at PU. I see a big difference.

    1. IU is 1-0. Purdue is 0-1 with a loss to Northwestern. But your point is how great Purdue is doing.


    2. Not to mention PU’s strength of schedule is rather anemic compared to IU’s. Currently PU will play 2 teams in the top 25, while IU will play 4.

  8. IU’s schedule is ridiculous.
    Jeff Sagarin’s ratings indicate we will play FIVE teams in the top 25, as he believes Iowa is in the top 25.
    Is it any wonder IU has trouble turning things around?
    IU has NO margin for error if it is going to play in a bowl game.

    1. The schedule does not help anything, but that is the cost of being in the B1G East. Could be worse, imagine what it is like to be in the SEC West.

        1. Well HC,
          Tell me which SEC west team would you rather play right now outside of Arkansas or maybe A&M depending on how fast Fisher can turn them around? Any one of the rest are capable of knocking off Alabama. I have serious doubts about any B1G team being able to do that at this point.

          1. Chet,

            Never cared that much for them, but Is that the same Ole Miss team which beat Alabama 2 times in the last 4 years? Got their tails kicked last year, but they had major program problems too. They beat Alabama 2 out of the 3 years prior with the 2016 game an almost to make it 3 in a row. Looked back to see how they did Saturday without Shea Patterson and appears they didn’t miss him a bit. Not so sure about how happy Harbaugh and UM are with what they got.

          2. Chet,
            You know the only poll that means anything is the one at the end of the year and most of the time I am not so sure about that.

          3. Is thiinkaboutit actually Hugh Kellenberger….? Didn’t Hugh ‘The King of COMMENTARY’ Kellenberger join the SEC family via the Clarion Ledger? Unveil yourself, Kellenberger!


            If were going to spend so much time glorifying the SEC on a site representing a historically bad BigTen football team, then I feel it’s only appropriate to point out a historically bad journalist who matched his talents with the average IQ of his readers.

          4. I wonder what the bowl and playoff results would be if the Speedo Tan Boys of the SEC/ACC had to travel to the NE and Great Lakes for a Winter sightseeing vacation and northern weather acclimation to play their best. Those HC’s would howl like Comamche Indians. Bowl odds making in Vegas would be reinvented.

          5. HC,
            Won’t disagree with your comment about the warm weather teams having to play in the north in late October and November, let alone in January. Remember one of Bobby Bowden’s better Florida State teams having to make a late season appearance at a so so Boston College. It was very unpleasant weather and FSU got their hats handed to them. Problem is no on wants to go to bowl games in that kind of weather December or January. Hard enough to sell lessor bowl tickets now.

  9. it get really old hearing about how tough it is for IU to play in the BIG Ten East…For many years it was the BIG Two and the Little Eight in the Big Ten and fans still complain about the schedule!! Indiana University is not the worst Division I football program because of the schedule…It is a plain simple fact Indiana University was the worst, we lost more games then any other Division I program. Stop crying about the football program and demand/ask for some improvements.

  10. IU79 gets my point. If you can’t compete in your division then give it up. Glass is pouring money into facilities and more seats into the stadium. I do not think it is realistic to ask a coordinator with no HC experience to improve the product on the field in the B10.

    1. Cali,
      I will repeat exactly what HC experience did Bill Snyder have when he took over Kansas State?

      1. Nobody starts out as a head coach. Nick Saban had one year of HC experience when MSU hired him.

        Fun fact. When Saban was coaching Toledo he turned down a job application from some guy named Urban Meyer.

        1. Chet,
          I agree totally, the idea of having HC experience is much ado about nothing. With the exception of Pont, Mallory, and Hep, prior HC experience has not worked out all that well for IU.

      2. Just because someone (or some school) wins the lottery doesn’t mean everyone should play the lottery. Personally, I’d only hire a coordinator if he had a proven track record of recruiting. The team with the best talent usually wins.

  11. Chet, point taken. But why is IU taking the gamble with giving coordinators their first shot at HC? There is no HC in the country with experience and track record of success to bring on with a program strategy and full staff to follow him? How many current B10 teams have a HC with no prior HC experience?

  12. Bigger question: Can a half dozen regular Scoop participants change the course of IU football history?
    Next big question: How are you changing the course of IU football history when not on Scoop bragging of SEC football?
    Big question #3: When is the last time you attended an IU football game?
    Big question #4(two parts): What is your height and weight?
    Big question #5: If IU had the best football team in the Big Ten, would the numbers of Scoop readers increase proportionately to IU’s success?
    Big question #6: If there were dozens upon dozens of Scoop participants, would you feel that your comments had the same oomph?
    Big question #7: Does your significant other enjoy watching football with you?
    Big question #8: Were you cut from your high school football team?

    1. H4H,
      Always love your comments, every forum needs a Court Jester. Mutual pleasantries exchanged, I seriously doubt anyone included the regular Scoop participants can change the course of IUFB history, currently TA is the one up at the plate with the opportunity to do so. As for so called bragging on SEC football, I would prefer to call it bemoaning the fate of B1G football. So far, the B1G has not been able to adapt to the changing college football game and be consistently successful at the national championship level. However, it appears that TA is learning the lessons of SEC football, as did Wilson before him by doing what the non SEC schools in SEC territory have been doing for years, find the unfinished talent passed over by the top schools and coach them up. Whether TA can do this successfully or not remains to be seen, but if he can, he will change the course of IU FB history.

      1. I would consider most assessments of “national champion” in college football as worthy a good amount of jest.

        It was always a broken system….I find little legitimacy in the processes to proclaim what four teams should be in such final determinations. More than ever, it’s simply a popularity contest. I find it boring without a ‘wildcard’ sort of team/system to open the door for a potential dark horse…or dangerous team gaining momentum(though not necessarily ranked highest, more wins against top opponents, etc).

        Lastly, astute observations of “what is” and constant gargling noises of a lowly history(or any history for that matter) without little forces employed in moving the wheels of change, suggests all are “clowning around” here. Blogging, in its nature, is a jest. It is time spent fooling around for fools with nothing more meaningful to achieve in moments wasted acting like an expert. I merely attest to mock expertise where none really exists. Expertise at what? Telling an audience what they have not done? So, with all do respect, all are ‘Court Jesters’ here.

  13. As for myself, as a consumer of the product, I question why results are the same yoy. If the products success is critical to funding budgets in your dept, i would argue it is the most important hire you will make. So simply asking why someone with no experience at that level is chosen time and again to learn on the job?

  14. I believe Allen’s fervent love and appreciation for Indiana ….will be the loadstar to guide us to unimaginable heights in football. There are things bigger than the immediate resume or amassed previous qualifications. The passion and dedication to something perceived as an honor to represent will be the foundation of our ascent. I honestly believe we will be forever thankful to Kevin Wilson for bringing Tom Allen to Indiana.

    Damn….Burt Reynolds…RIP, Mean Machine.

  15. Wow, there are a few straw-man arguments included in this string of comments. I agree with CaliHoosier, and he makes great points. I really like Tom Allen and desperately want him to succeed. But on the strategic question about how to transform IU Football into a winner, I question the wisdom of hiring three consecutive Coordinators (Lynch, Wilson and now Allen) to lead IU Football. The evidence, in this case, that none of these three men have produced a winning season in ten consecutive seasons, suggests that hiring coordinators to lead IU’s football program does not work (don’t tell me Lynch had previous head coaching experience, because that was not at the D-1 level and was not relevant). Doesn’t mean it will never work; doesn’t mean it doesn’t work for other schools, but the fact is that it has not worked at IU! And it did not work in the past when IU hired Cam Cameron. In fact, the only IU head coaches in modern history that have produced winning seasons for IU were men who had previous head-coaching experience before taking the IU job. John Pont, Lee Corso, Bill Mallory and Terry Hoeppner (it was Hoeppner’s team in 2007) were proven winners before arriving in Bloomington. My personal opinion is that Glass chooses not to spend money on football coaching compensation because he knows football is not important to the Hoosier Nation, alumni and major donors. He actually admitted that shortly after hiring Archie Miller! But as HC would say, that’s beating a dead horse.

    As I documented some time ago, comparing IU’s hiring of T.A. or Wilson (Coordinators) to Kansas State hiring Bill Snyder is a straw man argument. Bill Snyder is an extreme exception to the “rule,” and as I documented, Snyder became a head coach at KSU after a lot more years of experience as a Coordinator than T.A. had before arriving in Bloomington. T.A. had two years of experience as a DC before getting the head coaching job at IU. Plus, Snyder was mentored for years by two Hall-of-Fame head coaches at highly successful football programs before he became KSU’s OC and then the head coach. I don’t see anyone T.A. ever worked for going into the College Football Hall of Fame. Comparing T.A.’s experience to Snyder’s experience before each man became a head coach of a Power-five Conference team is not valid. And while there are exceptions, the fact is that the majority of men who get hired to be head coaches at Power-five Conference schools had successful head-coaching experience before getting hired for the bigger job.

    We all want IU Football to be transformed from a loser to a winner, but the question is, what’s the best way to do that? It is a valid to suggest that hiring a man without any previous head-coaching experience at the FBS level is not the best way to accomplish that goal. That does not mean we don’t like Tom Allen, it just means that if he becomes successful, it will be exceptional. And IU does not have to hire anyone like “Nick Saban” or pay a coach $20 million per year to turn IU Football around. But is it too much to ask that IU hire an experienced winner and pay him an amount equal to the average for Big Ten head coaches? Seems logical to me.

    1. I don’t know if it’s a dream or what but I’ve heard all that crap before. Didn’t fly then and doesn’t need control tower clearance now.

  16. Bob Knight was once an “experienced winner.” One man’s experienced winner is another man’s dying flame.
    I fear that our hiring of an “experienced winner” for IU football results in a dying flame milking us(and “making us:) for a last run of early retirement funds.
    If a program like IU is truly a proving ground to prove your worth, then there is no better place to do so. An “experienced winner” should take this case pro bono. Gods don’t need to charge. The handful of true proven winners(and the smaller handful of ‘gods’ of college football coaching) have more money than they’ll ever need….and no amount of money would get them to touch IU Football with a 50-foot goal post.

    I consider no coach a winner until he has volunteered in minimum wage and maximum ability his worth to prove winning football can be built at IU. Period. IU Football is where the first real legend in coaching must begin. My grandma could coach winning football at Alabama. That machine factory of football talent would take 50 years to collapse and go out of business. Show me what you can do at Indiana and I’ll show you a true “legendary” coach. And no need to be greedy. Fame doesn’t require greed.

  17. P.O., precisely my point and question. Thank you. And the only reason I brought up brohm was his first year resulted in beating us, won a bowl game and had a winning record. We play a stronger schedule but what has that to do with them beating us? To me it appears he came in with HC experience and his own staff with a proven strategy. That’s all.

  18. There are no legends in college football until Indiana wins a national championship. You want to be a legend? You can find us at 1001 E 17th St, Bloomington, IN 47408.

  19. A lot of this sounds like a Southwest Airline exec suggesting they bring in some astronauts to fly the planes.

    What successful head coach is coming to IU? Why? What is the upside?

    If Tom Allen is successful he might actually stay because of his roots. Anyone else is gonna go Lane Kiffin as soon as he becomes marketable.

    It’s easy to say ‘successful head coach with a proven track record’. It’s quite a bit harder to attach a name to that description. It’s even harder to give a reason why they would come.

  20. “What successful coach is coming to IU? Why?” hmmm I don’t know. Maybe you could start by asking what made Brohm go to Purdue, a team which had the worst record in the Big Ten. Maybe Purdue realized they were too cheap when hiring Danny Hope followed by Darrell Hazell. Maybe they realized they had to pay the going rate for a successful coach. And once they were willing to do that, they found a very capable coach willing to transform the program. Exactly why wouldn’t that same strategy work for IU?

      1. Chet, with all do respect, I think recommending a coach misses the point. Unless IU is willing to pay the price for a proven coach, they will have to hope a coordinator can grow into the roll. If they were willing to pay $3–3.5 million per year, I’d love to see them make a run at Ken Niumatalolo who has managed to beat bigger, better funded programs for years as the coach of Navy.

  21. Sorry fellow court jesters. In my haste to start a discussion I accidentally put a quarter in H4H. My bad.

  22. HC, fortunately you’re not the only person reading or posting comments on this site. If you disagree with my opinions, then put some effort into formulating a counter argument. Otherwise, you’re the pot calling the kettle black.

    Chet, come on man. You’re better than resorting to making straw-man arguments. You know that IU’s most successful football teams were lead by men who were experienced head coaches (Pont, Corso, Mallory, Hoeppner) before coming to Bloomington. Why all of a sudden would it be impossible to hire a man like Hoeppner again? We’re not talking about IU hiring elite head coaches that have won National Championships, just men who have produced winning seasons in FBS college football. It doesn’t have to be a coach from a Power-five conference team, it could be a coach from a mid-major program, like a MAC team. Or it could be a re-tread. Hell, look at Butch Davis coaching FIU! It sounds like defeatism to suggest IU could not possibly hire an experienced head coach! You offer a coach at a mid-major program $3.5 million per year guaranteed for five years, with incentives, and you’ll have lots of qualified candidates to choose from. Show them the radically improved football facilities. Sell them on the sense-of-accomplishment that would come with transforming a loser into a winner. But if you want some names, I’ll give you a few. Hypothetically, because Allen’s not going anywhere in the next two or three years, if IU had to hire a new head coach this winter, I’d suggest they go after Seth Littrell or Mike Norvell. They won’t be available in two years and Norvell would not come cheap, but if it was this January, Littrell and Norvell are examples of men IU could hire if Glass offered the right compensation package. Or how about Jason Candle? You think he’s going to stay at Toldeo until he retires? They’re out there. It just takes money and a commitment to building a winner.

    And by the way, if you believe that IU could never hire a proven head coach, then you have to accept that it won’t be able to hold on to Allen if he leads IU to a break through. One way of another, IU has got to pay if it wants to have a successful football program.

  23. If the first game was representative of how the season might go in a few weeks we will be hearing about what a colossal failure Brohm is at Purdue. If Purdue had played Indiana’s schedule they would have been home for the holidays last year. You guys make it sound like he has done something special in West Laffy already. He hasn’t.

    1. I have no doubt Brohm can coach an offense. I have no doubt Nick Holt is a pretty fair DC. WKU has always been a streaky program offering some HC’s an opportunity to visit success by way of their conference schedule. Brohm and his entourage I’m sure identified the same thing when considering the PUke job. Recent history of easy OOC schedule. But the B1Ggest attraction was not playing in the division to the east of them. Brohm’s level pathway to success in the B1G is so much easier than the incline of Tom Allen’s. Irrefutable.

  24. I accept the fact we are in the more challenging division. How did that fact explain PU beat us? There is a major difference between FIU and Northwestern. So I don’t feel those games are equivocal.

    1. I accept the fact we are in the more challenging division. How did that fact explain PU beat us?

      That’s easy…Play in a far more brutal division of your conference and it takes its toll in terms of injuries, recovery time and attrition. Do it week after week with a team attempting to get up to speed against some of the top teams in the country …? What a mystery that the boiler may be running a little low on steam when your train was climbing mountains(OSU, Michigan, Penn State, MSU) while rival opponent in West Lafayette-to-have-a-banner has been motoring down the track through the prairies of the BigTen.

      Legal: “West Lafayette-to-have-a-banner” is currently the property of Harvard for Hillbillies. Under penalty of law, any use of such reference to Purdue University without receiving the approval and consent of Harvard for Hillbillies is a punishable offense. Punishable offense penalties will be reduced via “time served” reading Harvard posts.

    2. Ross-Ade, PUke momentum from easier schedule, which allowed them to be more aggressive and better QB play. Pretty simple to discern. The only thing they’ll have on IU this season is again an easier schedule.

  25. T.A. is one of the best coaches IU could have currently. That includes everyone. This is due to the stars are aligned because IU wants to produce a winner and T.A. is a knowledgeable defensive people person that cares about program and players. I am quite tired of hearing about T.H. would have done this or that. I like T.H. and he had a win over a ranked Iowa team which is not out of the question for IU. However, it will never be known the degree of success he may have had. Oaklahoma State made IU look quite inferior when B.L. coached them in bowl game during start of T.H. era. Success or unsuccessful will simply never be known.

  26. CaliH. Purdue beat IU last year because of their physical defense more than anything which got overlooked. Yes, first game of Purdue and IU is not much of a comparison. Purdue was home and IU was away. Ramsey kinda reminded me of Nortwestern QB. Physically there’s a concern how IU matches up with teams like Purdue and last year Purdue was noticeably more physical than IU. The game was not even as close as the score. Purdue let off the gas a little and allowed IU to crawl back into game. However, Purdue seemed to be mostly in control of game. Plus last year during entire season Purdue was more impressive than IU except for IU first half against OSU.

  27. t, your points are valid. I want TA to succeed. I just question the thought process of a HC who has to learn on the job, figure out a successful program strategy, find a staff, recruit players who fit your plan, and build a sustainable product. Just feel we fall further behind the coach that has these readymade and is focusing on recruits and advancing the program. I guess time will tell.

  28. HC, your snark is so weak. But I do agree with your opinion about Brohm. He can coach and is off to a good start at Purdue.

    The simple fact of the matter is that he transformed a loser into a winner with essentially the same players. That’s good coaching. Another fact that can’t be ignored is that he was a winner at WKU. Big Ten Easter Division or Western Division, what does it matter? Purdue beat IU, produced a winning season, and won a bowl game. That was huge, and it is the only thing that people will remember. IU fans would have been delighted with those results last year. Watching the Purdue/Northwestern game, I thought Purdue was the more talented team, but they made too many stupid mistakes and gave that game away. Count on it, Brohm will fix those mistakes and Purdue will get much better.

    As for Brohm’s future, if he produces another winning season and wins another bowl game, there’s a good chance he’ll be coaching in the SEC a year or two from now. If he’s as good as some people think he is, he won’t be coaching Purdue much longer.

    Sorry 123, in spite of his success, it would be a disaster for IU to hire Ken Niumatalolo. Watching Navy play football is boring. IU can’t fill Memorial Stadium now, imagine how empty it would be with that boring brand of football. KN gets away with it because it’s Navy, and there’s a reason why no other Power-five conference schools have hired him away from Navy.

    1. With all the excuses Podunker is making for Purdue football (BigTen division doesn’t matter..and how they could manage to lose to Northwestern at home), his tireless defense of Crean is making a lot of sense. Can you say IU Deficiency Syndrome?

    2. Does anyone see any coincidence in the fact that our strongest years in football ran parallel to some of our best years at Assembly under Knight?

      Maybe Memorial still won’t completely fill, but I am one to believe that a basketball program healthy and making deep tournament runs/banners fuels the overall mood in the fall. And whatever type of athlete in demand, it can’t be denied that high levels of success in one program contributes to national attention and interest among families with kids often playing multiple sports. But when a college can’t produce any major program success at levels once part of their “blue blood” family of college peers, I highly doubt the sports program with even more rebuilding demands is in a better situation to get off the floor of its dismal history.
      It’s not that basketball is the only thing that matters at IU….When one major sports program is healthy and capturing national headlines, it fuels university attendance, enrollment, and recruiting. Not denying Mallory’s success should be recognized, but one can also not deny that the overall enthusiasm for IU Sports was at a much higher level from the mid ’80s to early ’90s.

  29. t, yes he was. At Iowa and Notre Dame as part of the undefeated national championship team under Lou Holtz. TA was DC for South Florida and IU.

  30. 12-0 and they destroyed several very good teams to earn it. Remember it clearly as myself and 5 other IU fan/friends wrangled 6 Fiesta Bowl tickets from a bank exec. Flew to Vegas as it was the closest place to stay. We had a van rented to drive to Tempe. We had not been checked into Caesars 25 minutes when 1 of my friends hit a $5.00 slot for over $12k. We chartered a 12 passenger plane, cancelled the van, sold 4 of the empty seats to strangers also going to the Fiesta. What an unusually lucky trip.

  31. t, there are always exceptions to the rule, and if given enough time, I’m sure we could identify a few other successful coaches who were Coordinators before becoming successful head coaches. But the vast majority of Power-five conference teams are coached by men who were successful head coaches before getting hired for the big job. And as CaliHoosier mentioned, some Coordinators have deeper, longer, higher quality experience/preparation and mentoring than other Coordinators. Having said all that, just like Fred Glass, we “hope” that Tom Allen will be another one of those exceptions.

    And don’t forget the unprecedented support Barry Alvarez got from Wisconsin’s Chancellor and Bored of Trustees. They made unprecedented investments in their Football program, and it paid off big time. You can read on line how Donna Shalala, the then Chancellor, provided the leadership necessary to transform Wisconsin Athletics, all starting with the football team.

  32. I remember B.K. Recommending Bill Mallory for IU football coaching job. Fun times for IU.
    All the talk really is meaningless what kind of success T.A. will have and how good R.T. will be. For R.T. that answer will come in the early 2020’s decade….And if T.A. Has gotten a raise and still at IU will mean success for him.

  33. Agreed. Hopefully one day our football and/or basketball programs will rise to the level of excellence as IU Men’s Soccer.

    1. Isn’t that the truth? Eight titles and seven runners up in 42 years of existence. More than one out of every three title games since IU became a varsity competitor has included the Hoosiers.

      What a treasure.

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