Hoosiers move to No. 22 in latest AP poll

Indiana is on the move again.

After making their Archie Miller-era debut in the poll last week, the Hoosiers have moved three spot to No. 22 in the latest Associated Press top 25 released on Monday afternoon.

IU made its leap with a 71-68 victory over Butler on Saturday, a win made possible by Juwan Morgan’s career-high 35 points and Rob Phinisee’s 3-pointer at the buzzer. The Hoosiers have now won four in a row — each of those by one possession.

Indiana has two games this week before enjoying an 11-day break between games. The Hoosiers will host Central Arkansas on Wednesday night, followed by a pre-Christmas contest with Jacksonville on Saturday evening.

The Big Ten placed seven teams in this week’s top 25: No. 4 Michigan, No. 10 Michigan State, No. 15 Ohio State, No. 16 Wisconsin, No. 22 Indiana, No. 23 Iowa and No. 25 Nebraska. Maryland, Purdue and Minnesota were among the conference teams that also received votes.


  1. We’re better than OSU or Wisconsin.

    Butler will also enter the top 20 by mid-January.

  2. The blow-out loss to Duke is the main thing keeping IU from being ranked in the tip 20 right now.

    We’ll have 11 wins against two losses when the Big Ten schedule resumes. If key players stay healthy and IU continues to improve free throw shooting, I can see IU winning 13 or 14 more games before the Big Ten Tournament begins. With a record of at least 24 and 9 after the regular season, that should get them a middling seed in the dance.

    For these next two games, I’d like to see IU produce fewer than ten turnovers in each game.

    1. IU lost by 22 but played even in the 2nd half at Duke to a team that had recently been defeated on a neutral court. We stomped Marquette and they are ranked #20 ahead of IU. Early rankings are very subjective!

  3. Sorry for type-o, that should have been “a record of at least 24 and 7 after the regular season.”

  4. For these next two games, I’d like to see IU produce fewer than ten turnovers in each game.

    Have you also taken up comedy? Sure, after having 20-Turnover TC for nine years, now you’d like turnovers down to 10 with an all-freshmen starting backcourt? Yes, that’s a giant smirk on the face of every Scoopster.

  5. I want them to shoot 70% from 38ft and out. On the remaining 30% misses, I want them to catch them midair and dunk them 100% of the time. If we do this, we’ll beat the other team.

      1. I forgot to mention that. Thanks. All of those put back dunks will be “And Ones.” We’ll make 100% of them and have a PPP of 3.000. We’ll make the 1976 Hoosiers look like 08-09 Hoosiers.

  6. O.K., I’ll settle for 12 turnovers per game. Funny, Archie was just quoted in another article that he wants to see a significant reduction in turnovers going forward. Well, for this team, what’s a significant reduction?

  7. Right now, after 11 games, IU has produced 165 turnovers, for an average of 15 per game. That number of turnovers places them tied for 303rd out of 351 DI men’s bb teams. That’s terrible!

    To put that into context, Wisconsin has committed 103 turnovers in 11 games, for average of 9.36 per game. Virginia averages 8.3 turnovers per game thus far and is ranked tied for #1. 12 per game is certainly a reasonable expectation, especially when you consider how stupid many of IU’s turnovers have been. As long as Green doesn’t pass or dribble the ball, the problem is solved.

    As for the Duke game, Duke could have easily scored 110 on us that night. We’re lucky we weren’t beaten by 40 or more points.

    1. Sure, they have some real boneheaded turnovers every game. Still a lot better than recent history.

      Wisconsin and Virginia are aberrations and watching their style of play would not set well with many of us. Me included.

  8. Chet, your comment above in very interesting to me and not unusual throughout the Hoosier Nation. A lot of IU BB fans seem to care more about IU’s style of play than they do about winning. I remember Bobby Knight catching grief his first year at IU because he instilled a tough defensive mindset and a motion-offense requiring a minimum of three passes before a shot could be attempted. He did away with the “run and gun” offense that his predecessor had utilized. Of course, once he started winning, lot’s of his former critics jumped on the Bob Knight band wagon and it did not take long for most IU fans to consider Knight’s way of playing BB the only way the game should be played. Knight’s impact on how IU fans believe the game should be played remains in effect to this day.

    Personally, I don’t care what style of play IU utilizes, as long as it produces wins. Watching IU win is more important to me than analyzing the style of play being utilized, and that goes for BB, Football, baseball or any other sport. Follow the rules, maintain a clean program, develop these young men and utilize whatever style of play you must in order to win games and championships. If Virginia or Wisconsin wins the NCAA Championship next March, I assure you neither school’s fan base will complain about the style of play they were required to watch throughout the season.

  9. Ultimately, this is Indiana…and the damn “style of play” sure as hell better get you to the second weekend of March Madness(nine other Midwestern programs not Indiana accomplished a collective 25 Elite Eights over the past seven years…Not to mention, many Final Fours).

    If you can’t accomplish what nine other basketball programs from the Midwest were doing in March Madness(e.g. playing in Elite 8s in the second weekend of what is arguably the best sporting event in college athletics), then you have no style. You have failed the standard of Indiana University. End of story.

    Turnovers? Sure, we’re high right now, but this is far from the end of the season. You have an all-freshmen backcourt starting. You have coach who requires a much higher level of effort on defense.
    Crean’s teams broke all historic records for turnovers. It’s simply a fact. They also didn’t know how to perform an in-bounds play or finish close games….which compounded poor communication, poor defense, and the record-breaking turnovers.

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