Tuttle getting used to new home at IU

Jack Tuttle arrived in Bloomington on Jan. 2 with a stated mission.

The new Indiana quarterback simply wanted to learn everybody’s name.

Outside of offseason workouts, that’s about all Tuttle can do at this point. The Utah transfer is appealing for immediate eligibility with his new program, but isn’t likely to receive a ruling from NCAA until at least the spring. At the same time, there’s no playbook to study while Indiana’s search for an offensive coordinator drags well into its third week.

In the meantime, Tuttle is getting accustomed to his new surroundings. He’s familiarizing himself with campus bus routes and the menu at Mother Bear’s Pizza, joining his new teammates for informal team dinners.

As he settles into his new home, Tuttle is making sure these first few weeks are about more than just football.

“I’ve watched games and seen what every guy can do, and what position they are, but it’s more than that,” Tuttle said. “It’s about finding out who they are and what their family is like and where they’re from, too.”

For Tuttle, the move to Indiana represents both a fresh start and a return to his roots. He was born in Indianapolis, the son of Jay, a former walk-on kicker at IU from 1986 to 1988, and Kathy, a graduate of Indiana State University. And even though he’s spent most of his life in San Diego, Tuttle has kept an allegiance to the local NFL team, too.

“Big Colts guy,” he said.

Tuttle first took advantage of the opportunity to return to Hoosier soil in late November, when he visited Bloomington for IU’s Old Oaken Bucket Game loss to Purdue. That allowed him to further familiarize himself with IU’s coaching staff, head coach Tom Allen and quarterbacks coach Nick Sheridan, in particular.

Those interactions, plus Tuttle’s connection to the state itself, made Indiana an attractive option when he decided on IU as his transfer destination last month.

“Coach Allen and I have similar ideologies,” Tuttle said. “He’s a man of Christ. I’m a man of Christ. I think that goes a long way. He wants to win. I want to win. It’s simple things like that. He wanted me here because he believed I was going to work hard and bring a good attitude to this football program and work hard to win.”

The direction that Indiana’s offense takes in the coming weeks and months will go a long way toward determining whether the Hoosiers are positioned to win in 2019. Identifying an offensive coordinator will be the most important decision of Allen’s tenure to date. Landing on a quarterback might be Allen’s second-most important objective.

But whether Tuttle will be part of that equation remains to be seen.

The former four-star prospect left Utah in October, midway through his freshman season. Tuttle didn’t see action for the Utes, the program he chose over other offers from Alabama, LSU and USC, among others.

Now his immediate eligibility is in the hands of the NCAA.

Allen said last month that the process could be decided by the spring. Indiana went through a similar situation last year with former linebacker T.D. Roof, who was granted immediate eligibility during the summer after transferring to IU from Georgia Tech in January 2018.

In the meantime, as he waits on a resolution to his own transfer process, Tuttle is able to participate in offseason workouts and spring practice with his new Hoosier teammates.

“That process can vary in length,” Allen said last month. “Basically you just go through it and you assume that you’re going to get it and then you just deal with it when you get the result. I’m assuming you’ll know probably around the spring ball range, I would think, based on previous history. Sometimes it’s slower. Sometimes it’s faster.”

When he’s ultimately cleared for action, Tuttle will bring an impressive high school resume to IU’s quarterback room, eventually competing with returning starter Peyton Ramsey and highly-touted classmate Michael Penix for Indiana’s first-team job.

Considered the No. 8 pro-style quarterback in 247 Sports’ 2018 Composite rankings, Tuttle completed 69.5 percent of his passes for 3,171 yards, with 41 touchdowns and four interceptions during his senior season at Mission Hills High School. The 6-foot-4 quarterback was named San Diego Section Player of the Year and won the Silver Pigskin Award, which is presented to San Diego County’s most outstanding high school football player.

Tuttle also earned a place in the prestigious Elite 11 finals, a showcase for the nation’s top talent.

“He’s a big-arm quarterback. He can throw it,” Mission Hills coach Chris Hauser said last month. “He can throw all the throws. He’s going to be able to throw that big post route over the top. He’s gonna throw that deep dig route. He’s gonna throw that big comeback. He’s gonna be able to throw that throw sideways in a hurry and he’s also gonna have great touch to a running back coming out on a screen, or a tight end on a delay route or a crossing route. So from an arm standpoint, I believe he can make the throws necessary to play in the Big Ten.”

The Hoosiers could use more dynamic play at quarterback next season, and when Tuttle’s chance eventually comes, he’ll aim to prove himself as part of the solution.

“I’m going to give this team everything I got,” Tuttle said. “I hate losing. I absolutely hate losing. I hate it more than I love winning. I think that’s the kind of attitude I bring here and I think a lot of guys are on board with that idea. It’s all about moving forward and grinding, and I think we’re doing that for sure.”

55 comments

  1. Well, I guess I am not that far off in stating TA waiting to next season starts and then changing it to start of spring ball… to create excitement and hope for another IU football season…whether it be false or true before naming OC.

  2. They are losing recruits for the late signing period because the recruits don’t know what offensive IU will run. Matt Canada has already turned them down. My guess is that he was not TA’s first choice. TA wants the new OC to run their offense with his coaches. That might mean getting someone from a small school or another division that will agree to that for a big increase in pay.

  3. I think the insistence that the current offensive assistants must remain is stupid. What qualified OC is gonna go along with that?

    I understand that Allen feels he is being loyal but that is an unreasonable demand of the new OC. I’d be willing to bet that more than one candidate has rejected the job because of that poison pill.

    1. I think you’re probably right about others turning down the gig for that reason. It’s now the main reason I think the OC hire is going to be internally.

    2. Chet a little bit apples and oranges but taking over and immediately succeeding coaching with the existing D staff is the experience Coach Allen is drawing from.

    3. It is no poison pill, it is a way to keep continuity and goodwill with 1/2 of the coaching staff! The OC must be “in it” for at least 3 years or more. He will have plenty of time to learn about his O staff and make changes once he is here. But he must be committed!

      1. Since at least one candidate has turned down the job for this reason I’d say it has already proven to be a poison pill.

        The trick is to make the job as appealing as possible, not place conditions that most experienced coaches would not accept.

  4. “Coach Allen and I have similar ideologies,” Tuttle said. “He’s a man of Christ. I’m a man of Christ. I think that goes a long way. He wants to win. I want to win. It’s simple things like that. He wanted me here because he believed I was going to work hard and bring a good attitude to this football program and work hard to win.”

    Who the hell cares! Christ doesn’t care if you can throw a spiral…Much like Crean, football now using ‘Christ’ as a bigger recruiting drive than the Indiana name. I do like the comparison…Our last banner was at the time of the ‘last supper.’

  5. Yes, this search “dragging on” creates very bad optics for IU and can’t be doing T.A.’s reputation any good. And yes, it is affecting recruiting because it’s wasting opportunities to secure some real good players. Didn’t T.A. have a transition plan and a list of candidates for this essential position before DeBord resigned? If not, that’s terribly irresponsible and also suggests his internal coaching “bench” is weak. Whether he had a plan and can’t get his preferred candidates to accept his offer, or his top candidates won’t accept his offer for whatever reason, this is giving T.A. and IU Football a huge black eye! Where’s that $700,000 compensation offer and why isn’t it motivating any strong candidates to take the job?

    Hey Fred, this is what happens when you give the big job to a man who has never been a head coach before (and was an inexperienced DC) and ask him to build a program with the lowest compensation budget in the conference. And I’ll bet you’re already planning to use this hiring struggle as one of your justifications for firing T.A. if that eventually becomes necessary. You’re so smart Fred, and such a great leader!

    1. When you start using ideologies as more important than the job to rebuild Indiana sports into something worthy the rest of the conference competition, it really does show you’re small peas.

      Wow…I never realized just how much the ‘Bible Belt’ had swallowed Bloomington. When did this happen? When did it become Tennessee?

    2. I’m still confident Coach Allen brings in an OC who can right the offensive ship in Bloomington. I make that statement based on the fact lots of us didn’t know who Tom Allen was before Wilson hired him.

    3. PO, if you are paying attention to the NFL hires from college and the # of colleges looking for HC and OC, you would know IU isn’t being hurt by still looking for an OC. You have become so negative about coach Allen and you need to lighten up. I am willing to be patient and see who coach Allen hires and many schools have gone to coaches at lower level schools and been successful IE Chip Kelley, Moorehead, etc. It is tough to wait for the hire for those of us that are fans of IUFB but IU isn’t the only university that is waiting or has been waiting for a long time for their new OC.

    4. P-dunker, that is a load of crap. 15-21 days 2-3 weeks before signing day is nothing. For Defensive Players it makes no difference who the OC is. Can you name one prospect who has committed to another program because of no OC right now?

    5. It hasn’t affected recruiting. They haven’t lost any of their remaining top targets. And if the OC hire is an outsider, he will likely bring in a recruit or two that IU didn’t have on their board. Recruits follow coaches all of the time.

  6. Just lost my interest in this recruit……and my belief that Allen is going to get it done at Indiana. Jesus is marketed more at this public university than most private schools…This must be a tactic to recruit more of the ‘South.’ SEC country and Clemson ….do love ’em their Sunday prayer.
    I get it….but it turns my stomach. Football should be about football…Keep Jesus out of it. The guy in the clouds doesn’t need shoulder pads. Not even sure if he’d enjoy a full contact sport feeding off of a love for punishing hits and violent tendencies. Then again, Jesus might be drawn to the idea of ‘sending it up’ over the crossbar…

    I get so sick of this garbage. Note to Jesus freaks…Indiana isn’t where you go because Clemson’s church is full.

      1. True…I avoid that state like the plague.

        Just curious …Where’s the line? Do we want our Scoop reporters to profess their faith in one certain supreme being in ScoopTalks?
        Do we want Tuttle’s statement/quote displayed in this article to be displayed on the Jumbortron 10 times during the next IU Football game at Memorial? Why not? Why don’t executives tell their reporters for news stations using public airways to profess their personal ideologies “freely”….? Would a Jesus-loving Herald Times executive encourage his Jesus-loving reporters to tell the “public” and their readers it was a shared ideology that paved the influence on how they deliver their product? More Jesus in ScoopTalks!
        Give me a break. If you believe wholeheartedly in your right than display some real nuts and execute such a right upon all. Put the belief on the video scoreboard. Put Jesus’s picture in the IU basketball and football programs next to all the “faith alignment” quotes of players and coaches. Start the Jesus drive. It’s first and ten commandments, my brothers. If what you proclaim to be so right at a public institution, then why do you tiptoe through the tulips? Go big …or go home. Have your top administrators promote Christianity first…Have your local newspapers living off the funds generated by the local university promote Christianity as if it were Kellogg’s Corn Flakes….Put Jesus on a Corn Flakes box…Did you know 4 out of 5 people choose Kellogg’s because they’re CEO loves Jesus? Put it on the box! Why not? Cross the lines of all privately held beliefs into the public forums and shelves..and airways..and streets…and signs…and promo literature for all things you declare as your right. What are you waiting for, bigots?

        1. Harv, bigots come in a lot of different shapes and sizes, including those who would tell others to shut up about their beliefs. Which is what you are doing. If anyone wants to talk about God, or just about anything else, the circumstance that they happen to attend a public school or work in govt. job or say it to a reporter doesn’t stop them. At least in the USA. You need a sabbatical in N. Korea or Cuba. Did I say “sabbatical?” Hope the Old Testament reference didn’t offend your sensitive soul. Oops, there I go again.

          1. Or maybe our freewheeling Christian president needs one in Russia….?
            Give me a break. Send a few of the hundreds of non-bigot priests who have molested thousands of children in the name of Christianity on there’s as well….because you are batting 1000.

            Most of Christianity finds its nest in bigotry…holding up themselves as a standard of purity while turning the other way from complete atrocities under their own private roof (much in the manner Crean did of Sampson’s kids while zipping his lips to how many of his own recruits could not live by his pure standards of flawless judgments).

            Very rare that any of you hypocrites could identify his own bigotry.

          2. And please tell me….what makes a “good Christian” anymore “good” than a “good man” you’ve done no FBI investigation…nor sat inside his living room to witness his pureness and “goodness.”

            Sell it, baby. Sell it. Maybe try living it, too. Because one ideology does not make one “good” at anything.

      2. When I saw he chose Utah over Alabama and USC that was my first thought.

        Many of my neighbors belong to that popular Utah based group. Talking about Christ might be the least of the potential worm cans being opened.

        Steve Young worked out.

    1. You’ve “lost interest in this recruit” because of his Christian faith? Really?? You do know that a person can have faith in God and still be a very good football player, right? Instead of using you disdain against Christians, why don’t you wait and see what he can do on the field before passing judgement?

      1. tberry61- It’s the true bigot who has twisted my historic position on this. I have no problem with Christian faith….I have issues with the use of ANY faith used as propaganda or advantage within the framework of a public institution. Two minutes on campus and that’s the ‘important factor’ to his coach …and what he can bring to the team? Well, we may now have our explanation as to why Penix or anyone might we relegated to sit behind a less talented player. There is a suggestion that ideologies are more …or just as important to skill sets?

        I do commend HT for putting his comments into print. It’s better than the alternative. It unveils much…If it concerns none of you, that’s fine. Call me a bigot all you want. This is a public university and ideologies should not be a prerequisite …or suggested as one to wear the uniform.
        Jesus take the wheel….

    2. H4H, players and coaches that have Christ in the lives live with Christ in every aspect of their lives. It doesn’t mean they are preaching but they don’t exclude Christ any part of their lives. I am sorry it turns your stomach but it shouldn’t. Players with faith and talent understand they get it from another source than themselves. The players are responsible for their work ethic and how much they put into their efforts.

      1. That’s fine, V13…I’m sorry if this is looked at as trouncing on your faith. I just believe there’s a trend to turn religion into propaganda and ….also, at times, to define someone as good, bad, qualified …or unqualified based on those public statements. I don’t care what you believe in your heart..I don’t care if you seek the advice of invisible figures to find your purpose.

        But does our public university want to position itself as only in favor one version of religion…I simply don’t believe any of it has anything to do with academics or sports. I’ve always believed in spiritual things…and try to leave all possibilities open. But I just don’t get the drive to filter one version of anything as being a prerequisite for a coach or institution.

      1. Your personal beliefs are yours. No one cares.

        Exactly what I’m attempting to convey. Only a few of you logheads will never get it. No one should care. It doesn’t necessarily make you a better person, better coach. better student, better teammate …or better passer. And a public university should not care if such commitment to any figure in the clouds is on an application for admission or financial aid.

  7. I read the first half of this article and laughed out loud in anticipation. And I was not disappointed! It didn’t take long for Tuttle to be mocked and compared to Crean for publicly referencing his Christian faith. It must be exhausting to be a religious bigot who feels the need to constantly be on the look-out and prepared to denigrate people for expressing their faith in a public forum.

    It’s freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.

  8. I remember Lagow patting the cross under his shoulder pads and then pointing to the sky. He then threw a terrible interception to a guy named Muhammad. Football prayers seem pretty low on God’s To Do list.

  9. bterry61, don’t be fooled by his denials and lame attempts at “projection,” he has a long history and clear record of attacking/mocking people who dare to reference their Christian faith in a public forum. If it walks like a duck, flies like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.

    Attending University of Utah is not an indication that a person is a Mormon. Utah is as secular a campus as IU’s campus. However, if a kid attends BYU, it’s a pretty good chance that he/she is a mormon.

    1. I think “mormon” deserves to be capitalized in the same manner as “Christian.”

      There’s your quacking duck….

      And I didn’t mock people… I mocked primarily one who turned Christianity into a cheap billboard to cover his insecurities as a coach. He also used it to gain his one recruit to paving the way for his limited success. False prophet….attempting to profit and shield himself via his so-called faith.

      I also feel a true “Christian” would never vilify the Sampson kids…or the former coaches(Jeff Meyer) in the manner he chose. He postured himself as being the ultimate judge higher than any higher order. Shouldn’t one’s faith defer to such ultimate determinations? Last time I checked, if you walk on water as ultimate judge, you should be able to quack a Syracuse zone.

    2. University of Utah is easily 50/55? Mormon. Grandson was being recruited there, football, until his senior year HS had 1 knee surgery and 2 shoulder surgeries. Now attends as a student.

      1. I live about 40 miles from the Utah state line. Anyone who doesn’t think Utah is absolutely smothered by the Mormon faith hasn’t spent a lot of time there.

        The poorest wide spot in the road will always have a Mormon temple costing more than the town is worth.

        I personally know quite a few denizens of the state who attend (and tithe to) a Mormon church simply because their business will fail if they don’t.

        While Moab and a few other tourist locations have more diversity the state is owned and operated by the Mormon church.

        1. Liquor is tightly controlled in Utah and sold in state stores.

          Fun fact. Big Red Liquors has 11 more locations than Utah has state liquor stores.

        2. Been to Utah 3 times and drove across on 2 other occasions. Pretty sterile. Damn sure isn’t what I’d call a destination.

          1. It depends.

            I think southern Utah, with Arches NP, Canyonlands NP, Zion NP, the Grande Escalante, etc, is absolutely spectacular. The ski areas are nice.

            Some of it is pretty barren, though. Driving through SLC is a nightmare.

      2. I stayed right across the street from BYU stadium in Orem (I don’t know why they always say it is in Provo) just a couple weeks ago.

        It’s a nice enough little town but every thing is a franchise of some sort. No Mom & Pop places like most college towns. Very plastic feel about the whole place.

    3. Attending the University of Utah is a pretty good indicator you are Mormon though some there feel they are the Mormon counterculture.

      Attending BYU basically means you are Mormon as is 98% of the student body.

      1. Jim McMahon was pretty straightforward about how much he hated his time at BYU. He wasn’t Mormon.

        He wasn’t very wild while there because the security team the university assigned to him did not allow it.

  10. TA shouldn’t have indicated he didn’t want this to drag on. The optics are bad. Secondly, if IU gets an OC that ‘agrees’ to work only with the existing staff, he likely is a lightweight.
    There have been numerous NFL and prominent FBS teams completely restaff in the last 3 weeks. IU can’t secure a single OC position? Weak. We all may be pleasantly surprised, but I seriouslky doubt it. This whole thing should have been wrapped up a week ago.

  11. I don’t know if TA realizes it but he sometimes says things and doesn’t follow what he says. Examples: qb decisions, we are going deep, explosive plays, getting RT involved, 4 fingers, etc etc etc

  12. Brad and t, I agree with both of your posts immediately above with the exception of the OC being a lightweight. Some men are flexible and can work with others and some can’t. Hopefully DeBoer is one of those that can.

    And while BeatPurdue’s comment is also right, IU Football continues to be damaged by self-inflicted wounds like this, which doesn’t enhance the program’s image or reputation, which affects recruiting, which determines the product on the field. No one thing is a huge deal, but it’s like “death by a thousand paper cuts” and suggests IU Football remains in the minor leagues.

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