4 things we learned from IU’s loss to Iowa

1. Juwan Morgan has to be more mindful of his fouls.

Indiana’s senior forward once again found himself saddled with fouls, limiting his availability during the middle of the game.

Thursday was just the latest instance of this issue, a fairly consistent problem inside of an otherwise admirable and impressive final season from Morgan. Indiana’s need to play Morgan out of position at the five is part of the issue, but so, too, is Morgan himself. He needs to be situationally smarter and remember that his overall value to his team is greater than allowing the occasional layup.

“I have to be more mindful of where I’m at and the time and score,” Morgan said. “A layup where we’re down two, a layup won’t really hurt us, so I cannot really, just let it go but not fouling in that situation. Then a couple other times, I thought I was just, you know, in the right place at the right time and they told me I wasn’t. If the ref calls it a fall, it’s a foul, so you can’t really argue it.”

The Hoosiers were put at a major disadvantage when Morgan landed his fourth personal merely 3:11 into the second half. It was a bad foul committed by Morgan, who was hanging onto and hugging Iowa forward Tyler Cook as the Hawkeyes moved to push the ball under the basket. Cook had position on Morgan in a situation where the IU captain has to realize his importance.

Morgan played only 22 minutes, further exposing IU’s depth.

“You know, it’s tough,” IU coach Archie Miller said. “It’s tough for our team to not have him on the floor for that amount of time with foul problems. We have to find a way to keep him on the floor with fouls and he has to be a little bit smarter, I guess, and it was tough when he got that fourth one so early.”

2. More good — and bad — from IU’s junior class.

Indiana’s ability to get older and play like it was a big reason the Hoosiers were able to upset Michigan State on the road.

The returns of De’Ron Davis (ankle injury) and Devonte Green (three-game suspension) boosted the Hoosiers in the paint and along the perimeter, complementing an all-around great team effort against the Spartans with their contributions off the bench.

Against Iowa, Davis sustained his level of play. Green did not.

Although Davis only scored four points, he provided a positive presence during his 22 minutes on the floor. The 6-foot-10 forward finished with seven assists and five rebounds, finding ways to contribute in ways big and small.

The seven assists were a career high for Davis, who has posted 11 helpers across his past two games.

“De’Ron gives you high-post and a low-post guy,” Miller said. “He can catch it down there and he can command it in the paint and he’s a good passer out of the post, as well. He’s good against the zone. He wasn’t able to get as many shots up as he probably is normally accustomed and us being able to find him to get him the shot but he was fine.”

After coming up big with a trio of 3-pointers against the Spartans, Green finished with only three points against Iowa. He ended the night with four turnovers, zero assists and three steals. Most concerning, Iowa outscored Indiana by 12 points during the 17 minutes Green was on the floor.

It’s been another frustrating season from Green, whose quest for consistency remains elusive.

“Devonte didn’t play as well as he played the other night,” Miller said. “In his (17) minutes tonight, he didn’t have what I would say (was) a solid game just in terms of being able to take care of it and being able to get into a rhythm offensively.

“So those are the two big cogs coming off the bench, and from a scoring standpoint, obviously they didn’t give us the scoring. But De’Ron and Devonte both contributed in the game and that’s more of what we’ll have to get from them.”

3. Iowa was simply the better team.

The Hawkeyes received steady play from their veterans. They hit big shots early and late. Their depth was more reliable.

Overall, Indiana played pretty well. Romeo Langford scored 15 of his 22 points in the second half, helping IU cut a double-digit deficit to a single possession late in regulation. The Hoosiers fought through early offensive lulls and posted their highest effective field goal percentage (55.7) since a loss at Maryland on Jan. 11. Indiana also won on the glass, 33-30, and finished with seven 3-pointers (its second-most in a month).

But Iowa was clearly better.

That was perhaps most apparent through the play of the Hawkeyes’ most experienced players. Junior point guard Jordan Bohannon not only hit big shots, he attempted them with confidence. Classmate Tyler Cook also bullied his way to 21 points and seven rebounds.

It was an example of older players attacking and playing with purpose and poise.

“It’s maturity and understanding the necessity of following the game plan on the road against a really explosive team,” Iowa coach Fran McCaffery said of his team’s win. “We came down here last year and played well for 32 minutes. Thirty-two minutes isn’t enough. They had a run in the first half. They had a run in the second half. Difference in the game. You can’t do that here. I’ve been down here enough and some of these guys have been down here before. You’ve got to take care of the ball. You’ve got to move the ball. And you’ve got to stay together on defense. And you can’t let up.”

The Hawkeyes didn’t, and they were rewarded.

4. The homecourt advantage of Assembly Hall is not being maximized.

Indiana has now dropped three in a row in Bloomington, the program’s longest home skid since losing the final three home games of the 2014-15 season.

It’s an unfortunate waste of one of the great homecourt advantages in college basketball. After finishing an eight-game stretch that included six road trips, Indiana is settling in for an eight-game stretch run that will feature five more games inside its iconic home venue.

Making the most of those opportunities on a familiar floor is the key to salvaging something from this season.

“(We need to get better at) just harnessing the crowd in there, the energy, really getting over that hump where we get the lead from 10 to six to four to three,” Morgan said. “I think that’s when we really need to use the crowd behind us and really get that one stop that they been looking for for the whole game and then going to capitalize on offense.”


  1. Green is not consistent and will never be consistent in a motion offense. I don’t know if he has no ability to focus or if he just doesn’t have good vision. He has some talent but cannot transform it into skills. He prizes the ball in his hands but is unreliable and not trustworthy to value the possession. He is a reckless 3 on 3 street ball player at best. Another recruiting reach by Crean turned out to be a project.

  2. The main thing I have learned in the last couple of years is that the Indiana University sport program has fallen behind the Purdue sports programs. We have been losing to Purdue in football, men and women basketball consistently in the last couple of years. Looks like the Purdue sports program are on the upswing and Indiana sports programs are on the downswing. The main University in the State of Indiana seems to be taken a backseat to Purdue and Notre Dame in many areas (sports and academics), is this a reflection of poor leaderships (coaches, AD, the board, etc.). Five years ago Indiana sports had an upbeat, nowadays as describe by the AD (Fred Glass) we are in rebuilding mode. Was it Fred Glass lack of vision to not foresee these problems and acted to slow/late??

    1. Poppycock.

      Indiana is currently tied for 7th nationally in the Capital One Cup which is given for all sports performance. Purdue doesn’t even appear in the standings, which go 35 places.

      Some of the teams above Purdue in the standings include Long Beach State, South Dakota State, and Kennesaw State.

      Praise Purdue when they have actually done something and recognize the accomplishments of the Hoosiers.

  3. Come on, Chet. While the facts you reference are true, how many people really care about the non-revenue-generating varsity sports? How many people show up to watch IU’s swimming & diving teams compete? How many people attend an IU Track meet? Heck, IU had one of the best men’s soccer teams in the country all year long and there plenty of seats available at every home game. So while you are technically correct, IU79’s point is valid in the sports that the vast majority of American sports fans care about. Football and Basketball are the sports that matter most, by far. And in the two sports that have the potential to generate revenue and national recognition, IU79 is correct, and IU has fallen behind Purdue.

    You read articles about how Alabama’s success in football is directly responsible for increasing the number of out-of-state kids who attend Alabama. These kids want to go to college and feel a part of something special, something exciting and memorable. And having a dominant varsity tennis or water polo program is not going move the needle! In fact, I decided to attend IU because I was taking my campus visit to Bloomington on the day IU’s 1975/76 men’s basketball team went undefeated and won the National Championship.

    The other varsity sports are nice, and everyone wants to see them succeed, but football and basketball are the sports that matter. And in those two key varsity sports, IU is well behind.

  4. Purdue has proven they can win six football games during the season while Indiana could only win five. Such success.

    In Matt Painter’s 14 year tenure they have won the conference twice and never advanced past the Sweet Sixteen. So, Painter has achieved the same successes in 14 seasons as CTC did in nine.

    Indiana is the only Big Ten baseball team to advance to the CWS since 1987. Purdue last won the Big Ten in 1909.

    Purdue doesn’t field a men soccer team but, since IU has the premier program in the country, it doesn’t much matter.

    I’m betting more people around the know who Lily King is than anyone on the Purdue football and basketball teams combined.

    In the 2017-2018 final standing in the Capital Cup Indiana finished #15. Purdue was #69.

    I could go on and on but there really isn’t a metric in which Purdue athletics even compare. The only sport where they have shown any sort of dominance is women’s golf. There’s excitement.

    You can feel whatever you want but those are the facts. IU is the 7th rated athletic program in the country and Purdue hasn’t succeeded enough to even be ranked in the top 35. Purdue has done nothing of consequence other than winning one more regular season football game than IU the past two seasons while playing in the B1G West.

    If you think that excites people your standards are pretty low.

    Fun fact. John’s Hopkins won more Big Ten athletic championships last year than Purdue. Seriously. I’m not kidding.

      1. I know you want to pick and choose as it fits you narrative but this is what I responded to.

        “Looks like the Purdue sports program are on the upswing and Indiana sports programs are on the downswing.”

  5. Thanks Podunker, All I am trying to say is that the revenue making sports (basketball and football) at Indiana University are falling behind in the State of Indiana. Indiana men basketball has only won one game in the last seven meeting. An the Indiana football team is on a two game losing streak. IN basketball Indiana is losing its top two scorer (Juwan Morgan and Romeo Langford) and for all intended purposes the hearts of the Indiana basket team. While Purdue only loses Ryan Cline and Grady Eifert. Ryan Cline (usually a role player in is first three years) is a major contributor, but easily replaced. So the question becomes next year when Purdue has a veteran basketball team in Carsen Edwards, Matt Harms, Nojel Eastern, Aaron Wheeler, Trevion Williams versus and fairly unimpressive Indiana team in Devonte Green, De’Ron Davis, Justin Smith, Aljami Durham and Rob Phinisee. If I am missing something please inform me. An as far as Indiana University football is concern until they beat Purdue and go to a bowl game, we are behind the Purdue football program. I do not need to hear how great the last two recruiting class are for Indiana football which they are, until they are properly developed by the coaching staff and winning football games on a regular bases. Then the Indiana sports program has fallen behind Purdue and Notre Dame.

  6. IU79 – Chet is at the heart of it. IUBB is in a rebuild and AH is still at sold out #’s. You barely can stick a hand between the past 2 year FB records of both. Hardly a gaping abyss contrasting upswing and downswing.

  7. I will concede to you (Chet) and Hoosier Clarion for the moment. But what happens if Indiana basketball and football loses to Purdue in the next two years (seasons). Hope not!! Will we still be saying the Indiana revenue sports programs are on the upswing or just stable??

    1. You know…you can go a lot of directions with that.

      Having endured too many 1-10 and 2-9 seasons I have callouses on my sports feelings.

      Do I think Purdue is doing something special in football? Of course not. They have won exactly one more game during the regular season than IU the last two years in a weaker division. Does it suck that they beat the Hoosiers? Sure it does.

      IU has a new head basketball coach who inherited a real mixed bag, recruited nicely, and then got his ass kicked by injuries. Sure, he got some guys back recently. So, they are in November level skills. He also isn’t recruiting Bawa Muniru and Tom Priller. The basketball team will be fine. I don’t think people would be as critical if they hadn’t played so well against the toughest competition. It becomes frustrating when they lose to seemingly weaker teams. Perhaps they played above and beyond in the big games but, in the end, they are what the roster says they are. A short team with little depth and few outside threats.

      IU athletics, from top to bottom, is a premium product. That simply can’t be denied. Those are the facts.

      The football team is slightly better than they historically have been but…let’s see what they do. I think we all agree better players are coming in. Let’s see what they do with them.

      I don’t think Archie has proven anything but I like the recruiting and he has come up unexpectedly big in a number of games. I think basketball will be fine but nothing is proven.

  8. I for one happen to think that IU men’s basketball is going to lose to Purdue for the next 2 years, unless the game is at Assembly Hall (where we MIGHT win due to refereeing bias). After 2 years, I believe that Archie Miller will have changed the chemistry of our program so that we can compete with Purdue.

  9. Chet, personally I am hoping that Archie Miller and Tom Allen do create a winning program and have a lot of success at Indiana University nothing would make me more happier.

    1. Right there with you.

      I don’t get the condemnation of either guy. Basketball has been all over this season but at least Archie only recuits legit basketball players. This season has been snake bit from the get go. His trajectory has been little different than many well respected coaches.

      While it would be nice to think that IU would immediately respond to a new regime you have to accept the fact that, if I am not mistaken, Tom Allen has won more football games in his first two seasons than any IU coach in the modern era. So, they lost to Purdue allowing the Boils to go 6-6 while IU went 5-7 (playing in the B1G East). That is not much of a statistical boundary between success and failure. Too many IU fans would accept a one win season, as long as Purdue was the one win, and call it success. That mindset worked for Kevin Wilson.

      The Hoosiers are bringing in better players but they still need to win games in a brutal division. Time will tell but, so far, Coach Allen is winning at a better clip than any of his predecessors.

  10. …to offer 1 more easily observed fact, we’ve never seen B1G BB tougher across so many programs…
    Some talking head projected last week 10 conference teams will be in the big dance by suggesting 2-3 teams would not need 20 W’s because of the quality of the conference. Again it was a talking heads words filling time.

  11. Another easily observed fact is that no Big 10 team is anywhere close to the level of either Virginia or Duke.

  12. Just noticed that CTC hit the ground running. Georgia is sitting at 1-9 in the SEC.

    For those of you claiming Romeo is regretting coming to Bloomington, his #2 choice, the ‘up and coming’ Vanderbilt Commodores, are the only SEC team worse than Georgia. They are 0-10 in the conference. Definitely a program on the rise.

    1. Crean is probably sitting at 8-2 if his All-American point guard doesn’t decomitt to UK. Hagans has made UK into more than an NBA farm…He is a dynamite point guard.
      Poor Tom….Can’t catch a break after the ‘Great Bloomington Heist.’ He and Joani are living like Bonnie and Clyde. I bet they’re burnin’ through that 30 million. He went from ‘Everything Hinges’….to ‘Hagans by a Thread.’

      You know….Tom Crean should have given Austin Etherington a million of the thirty million for being the kid truly responsible for Cody coming to Bloomington. And that newly remodeled players lounge as Great Skodjt should be named after Austin instead of Zeller and his sidekick.

    2. Vanderbilt even being on Romeo’s list is more of an insult to Romeo than Bryce Drew. And Romeo won’t be around Bloomington long enough to ever have a ‘One Shining Moment’ buzzer-beater tagged as of one of the most memorable shots in NCAA tournament history.

      The more you pile on Vanderbilt and Drew, the sillier you make Romeo and yourself look. Drew was the epitome of what March Madness is all about. College ball for Romeo is an afterthought(and that’s why Vanderbilt was on his list).

        1. You make all the excuses in the world for our season being flushed, but you fail to mention Vanderbilt losing their 5-star, Darius Garland, for the season?

          Yup….Taking Romeo and Garland out of a possible roster would remove just about every bit of “up and coming” from any college team(even one not in rebuild).

          1. Wow, they lost one player and they are winless.

            It must be nearly impossible to overcome losing one player. Lucky Archie didn’t have to overcome losing a player. I’m sure IU would be winless, too.

          2. They lost one player and they didn’t land Romeo….

            Yes, Chet…one player who happened to be a projected first round pick. What do we look like without our one Romeo? We’ve lost 8 out of 9 with him.

            Garland, a projected NBA first-round draft pick, was the key piece of Vanderbilt’s best recruiting class in program history. He earned SEC Freshman of the Week honors in his debut week. And on Monday, he scored 33 points, the second-most by a freshman in Vanderbilt history, in a win over Liberty(courtesy: Tennessean).

            If Vanderbilt is smart, they’ll stick with Drew. He’s a winner. Took Tennessee to overtime without Garland….(and without Romeo). Think Archie takes Tennessee to overtime without Romeo?

          3. So, we should cut Vandy some slack because Romeo wasn’t available to play for them this season?

            Even for you, that is really out there.

            Archie loses half the team for parts of the season but cut Drew some slack because he lost one player and he didn’t have another player available because he was never on the team.

            Got it.

  13. You’re right, Rock. I’m not even sure if anyone from the conference could even give UK much of a game.

    This “toughest the conference has been in 10 years” malarkey is nothing but self-fulfilling prophesies by the talking heads.

    I highly doubt more than two from the conference get to a Sweet 16. That kid on Iowa who shot the lights out of ‘Great Skodjt!’ …will probably brick everything come tournament time. They all look like ballers playing us of late….

    The main difference I see is that our competition plays like they want to win. We come to play like a Sunday pick-up game on a full stomach.

    I thought the “Excuses Era” ended with the charlatan.

    Talent Assessments: I think I misjudged much of the talent on this team. Romeo isn’t much better than a Jared Jeffries…He came with much more hype, but I actually think Jeffries had a higher IQ for the game. I originally thought the Phinisee injury was actually a valid excuse. As much as Phinisee is considerably better than the Green alternative, he’s far less dynamic and explosive than many of the premier point guards of the Midwest. Have you seen Hagans on UK? Tom Crean would have had a better season than we’re having if that kid doesn’t decommit from Georgia. Let’s give Tom Crean some more excuses since that’s what Hoosier fans are craving….

    Smith….Phinisee….Morgan….Durham….Green….DeRon. They are all Tom Crean recruits. And I’m sure Crean had contact with Romeo. Archie did lock him down…..or did Adidas? Who knows. Oh, almost forgot Fitzner. Archie brought us ‘The Glitz'(Romeo)…and ‘The Fitz’.

    It will take three to four years to finally dissolve the Crean & Cringesome….out of the Cream & Crimson. And that’s the final excuse ….After that it doesn’t even matter. Archie leaves town 12-15 million strong in his wallet without too much harm to his reputation filled with a few highs(maybe a Sweet 16) and some lows(liking losing 8 out of 9 …with multiple losses in Great Skodjt! Hall).

    1. ” Romeo isn’t much better than a Jared Jeffries…”

      Big Ten Freshman of the Year 2001

      Big Ten Player of the Year 2002

      Lead the Hoosiers to the national title game.

      Eleven year NBA career

      Yeah, you’re right. Romeo probably isn’t much better than Jeffries.

      1. Goeff pegged him as being much better than Jeffries….Consult via personal email with your bro from Maine.

        Lead the Hoosiers to a national title game….. ? Along with Mike Davis, Fife, Coverdale, Moye, Hornsby, Newton, Odle…and a few others.

        And we’re talking about raw basketball talent. Jeffries had a higher IQ for the game….but Romeo was sold as being more of a highlight reel of bubbling over talent. He’s not lived up to the sell job. That’s not his fault…It’s the fault of Southern Indiana homers like you…..putting far too much pressure via the overblown hype.

        1. Jeffries was also from southern indiana… like Larry Bird.

          You are the one who wildly swings from saying you love Romeo to saying he is all hype. You can’t take a single position for an entire sentence.

          You will take every possible position on a subject and when one of those positions pans out you act like you are Nostradamus.

          We all notice. Nobody buys it.

          1. But they weren’t lining up outside Jeffries high school as if he was the Second Coming…..

            Are you actually attempting to equate the hype? That’s the only thing we’ve become great at as of late…..HYPE MACHINE. We should hang hype banners.

          2. “We” all notice you like to say “we” a lot. Your “we” is Clarion…

            Narcissists pretend to talk for “all” and that’s more noticeable than any of your positions which always fail to mention pertinent facts.

            Your homerism during the Crean insult years was your most solid position. Thanks for that.

          3. Chet he’s Jelly. His metric when thwarted always, always wiggles away to another position. Premium Jelly.

          1. And your position? It always ends with insult. “We” all notice. You’re so original.

  14. And Jeffries became a great college player…Stayed with Indiana an extra season even amongst the turmoil of Knight’s firing.
    Romeo won’t be here two seasons to become the same college player…nor have future value to a team Archie could assemble around him.

    I’d love him to stay….but isn’t he project to go much higher in the draft than Jeffries ever was….? Hype machines dictate all of this stuff…. and Romeo has no interest in banners or Final Fours. His interest is in Adidas cash. That’s fine.

  15. Over 13 NBA seasons, Jeffries averaged 4.8 points per game. Is that what you believe Romeo’s NBA career will look like…or will his talent prove more value at the next level?

    Jeffries was an 11th pick in the draft. As an NBA player, that’s as big a ‘bust’ as Cody.

    And the Pacers are proving to play just as well without Oladipo.
    Lesson? You’re all replaceable. Take the money and run. Banners don’t matter.

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