Ramsey transferring to Northwestern

Former Indiana quarterback Peyton Ramsey has found his next college football home.

Ramsey, a pending graduate transfer, announced Monday he will attend Northwestern in 2020.

“I would like to thank everyone at Indiana University for allowing me to live out my dream of playing college football,” Ramsey’s post to social media read. “I would especially like to thank my teammates that pushed me, encouraged me and trusted me. Sometimes the road to realizing your dreams can take you in a different direction than you expected.”

Ramsey was somewhat of an unlikely hero for the Hoosiers last season. After losing his starting job in fall camp to redshirt freshman Michael Penix Jr, Ramsey ended up appearing in 11 games, starting seven, because of numerous injuries to his successor.

The redshirt junior steadied the ship, throwing for 2,454 yards and 13 touchdowns to just five interceptions. Ramsey also wasn’t afraid to put his body on the line as a scrambler, gaining another 252 yards and seven scores on the ground.

But with Penix destined to be IU’s starter again in 2020, Ramsey chose to seek out another place to land. He arrives at Northwestern at a time when Pat Fitzgerald badly needs a quarterback. In 2019, Aidan Smith and Hunter Johnson combined to complete 136-of-279 (48.7 percent) of their passes. The Wildcats ranked last in the Big Ten with 1,404 yards through the air.

In the last season’s 34-3 loss at IU, Johnson was 7-of-17 for 65 yards and Smith was just 5-of-12 for 47.

Luckily for the Hoosiers, they will not have to match up with Ramsey in his final season. IU does not face Northwestern in the 2020 regular season. The same goes for Iowa, the school former left tackle Coy Cronk chose as his grad transfer destination.

With Ramsey officially out the door, there is that much more of a need for Penix to stay healthy, which he hopes some added muscle mass will help him achieve. The rising redshirt sophomore is closer to 220 pounds now, well above his playing weight of 202 this past season.

Penix threw for 1,394 yards and 10 touchdowns on 110-of-160 passing in 2019.

“I’m very determined,” Penix said last week, right before the start of spring practice. “As I said, I’m working hard every single day in the weight room and in rehab, just making sure that my body is healthy, and that’s something that I don’t look at. When I play, I just play to have fun and play for my brothers and just go out and compete.

“I don’t think about injuries, I don’t think about the past, I just want to go out there and have fun and get wins, and that’s what it’s all about.”

Ramsey has finished his IU career first on IU’s list in career completion percentage for a non-active player (66.4%), second in career completions (633), and fourth in career pass yards (6,581). He holds the second-, third-, and fourth-best seasons in program history for completion percentage. His 68-percent mark for 2019 sits behind only Penix, who completed 68.8 percent last season.


  1. I was wrong in predicting PR would go to a mid-major. But I’m surprised he’s going to NW and will compete against Hunter Johnson, a former 5-star QB, Elite 11 guy and Clemson’s back-up. Johnson may have had a bad year at NW last year, but I thought that was attributed to injuries, some personal/family issues that distracted him and a lack of offensive weapons.

    In terms of arm talent, Johnson is way above PR, maybe even more so than Penix was. But between Johnson transferring and now PR, it suggests that NW is having trouble recruiting good QBs out of HS.

  2. Unless it was an educational move for some reason this is another one that makes no sense. Just no IU football respect. I don’t care if he did what I consider to be a great job last year. PR would have a better chance playing behind Penix than Hunter Johnson. However, PR is a NW style q.b. IU adapted to Ramsey style last year though.

  3. Wow…What a fabulous opportunity. Good for him. Great education. Great city. Great food. He’ll have the time of his life. It’s not like he was ever going to play at the next level…This will be a very good career move.

    1. Why a “good career move”? If he does not start at NW, Peyton will not impress anyone. NW’s offense is not very good. They will have W and L’s based upon their defense. In each of those categories IU is a better opportunity. He knows the IU playbook by heart. He knows the IU players by heart. Etc.

      1. After football, BP….After football. Good school. Could open up a lot of things after football.

        1. I will grant you those points. But I had assumed that Peyton was interested in a coaching career, not going to Harvard Law. One coach, Allen, who loves and respects you, seems better than two whom are more luke warm.

  4. Better hope Penix holds up….This could get ugly real fast if Tuttle ends up having to take this team into a BigTen season. Yikes. Buckle your seat belts.

        1. There is only one way to get that knowledge. Play him in real games with the full playbook open to use!

  5. Huh…I never realized Ryan Field was almost as large as Memorial…Ryan only has 5000 less seats than Memorial (47,000 compared to 52,000). I thought Northwestern’s stadium was much, much smaller.

  6. I wish Ramsey the best at NW and think he will fit in well with NW’s offense. IU needs to have Penix healthy all season but he is stronger and looks much bigger.

    H4H now Penix looks like a B1G QB as he has physically improved. I hope his injury streak is over and he has a healthy career the rest of his career.

  7. That sounds like good news, V. Hope you’re right and Penix can stay injury-free.

    Hope you are doing well, too.

  8. WOW!!! great move for Peyton Ramsey…gets to learn college coaching from one of the best college coaches in the business. A coach that is dedicated to coaching and the university where he is coaching. Peyton may not play at the next level, but he has made himself available to learn under a very good (respected) college coach. Wish Peyton nothing but the best……but if Peyton is the starting quarterback at Northwestern this fall it truly does not say much for Hunter Johnson (badly overrated) 5-star rating coming out of high school. Maybe Pat Fitzgerald realize it now, that Hunter Johnson was overrated.

  9. As far as coaching where PR will end up if he stays in the sport it does expand his knowledge and strategy for the game a lot.
    Jack Tuttle though high school has some pretty good film highlighting his ability not yet seen at IU. Of course that’s high school. He has some size and was a high 3 star almost 4 star (per espn) high school qb. Programs that offered him was a long a long list and quite impressive regardless if they were recruiting him for a back up or not.

  10. I think this is an excellent move by PR for reasons already stated. If PR wants to coach in the future, which I believe he does, he needs to broaden his base of experience beyond IUFB. Being around Pat Fitzgerald meets that definition quite well and PR will profit from a year at NW mightily. I suspect after this year, PR will have his choice of entry level coaching positions to choose from, starting with IUFB. Whether he actually plays meaningful minutes for NW or not, his experience this year will be far more valuable for his coaching career. Not to mention in exchange for this NW will pick up a very durable and experienced QB should the need arise.

    1. Agree that getting Peyton is good for NW. Disagree that the transfer is good for Peyton’s IU coaching career at IU! He did quit on IU in the end. He won’t learn that much at NW in 5 months of carrying the clip-board. If he does start, Coach Fitzgerald will want a game manager, not an NFL quality QB! Just my opinion.

      1. He’ll learn plenty. He’ll start learning long before the official season gets on its way. He’ll have dual experience from two solid coaches. And he’ll have a marvelous year (or possibly more) at a top university.

        It’s all upside for Peyton. Heck, he could be playing in a BigTen title game. His odds of doing so are far higher at NW than at IU in the BigTen East.

        Now we must hope a toothpick has been transformed into a Mack truck…..and Penix can hold up for more than one or two games. Precarious times at IU Football…What else is new?

  11. Well, he’ll be playing near the shores of beautiful Lake Michigan. Peyton will invent the very first ‘wounded seagull’ throw.

    “Wow..What was that throw? That had to be caught up in the wind,” said the seagull.

  12. The winds along the lake do blow very strong in Chicago….in late fall. For 1/2 a game Peyton will possess the “wounded seagull” arm …But for the 1/2 when the blustery autumn winds are to his back, he’ll possess a cannon to scare the gulls back to the beaches.

  13. This is a great move for Peyton. Get a masters from a top tiered school on their dime. Also, the type of offense they run at NU is perfect for him. NW has a very ball control-style offense that rarely slings the ball down the field. This is a position tailor-made for him. Pat Fitz is all about the toughness too. Peyton has that in spades.

    I would bet even money that he is the starter next year.

    1. DD: I agree. I’m glad he’s not playing IU. One thing that isn’t being discussed is that Fitz’ generally plays 2 QB’s in each game as part of what they do. I can’t imagine PR would blindly walk into situation where he’s ‘battling for playing time’. He’ll play. It might be less than Johnson, but he’ll play. His dink and dunk, mobility, will fit in quite nicely not to mention his high completion rate. After how he saved IU, I cannot hope anything but the best.

  14. I don’t blame PR for transferring, and I think he has picked a good school and a good head-coach. But let’s be real. PR is not transferring to NW to learn how to be a coach under Fitzgerald. He’s already played for two head coaches and three Offensive Coordinators while at IU. He could have graduated and become a grad-assistant at dozens of schools. And Fitzgerald didn’t give him a scholarship so that PR could learn how to become a FB coach. PR is transferring because he wants to be a starter one more year. I respect that, but adding up everything he’s said (in the media) in the past six months, IMO PR is transferring because he’s a little miffed that he was not going to be IU’s starting QB next season.

    I noticed that in his announcement, he did not thank Tom Allen or any of IU’s coaches. He simply wrote, “I would like to thank everyone at Indiana University for allowing me to live out my dream of playing college football. I would especially like to thank my teammates that pushed me, encouraged me and trusted me…….” Conspicuous by its absence is any thank you given to Wilson, TA or any of IU’s coaching staff. It’s not an inappropriate thank you, but just a little light.

    I wish PR luck. I think NW is in for another rough season as the Big Ten’s Western Division is getting better. I could see NW finishing 4 – 7 next season, winning only their cupcake non-conference schedule and one home game (Maryland). Their away games are at MSU, PSU, Iowa, Purdue and Minn. They host Wisconsin, Maryland and Nebraska in addition to their soft non-conference schedule.

    And with two QBs on the roster that transferred in, it suggests Fitzgerald is having trouble signing quality Quarterbacks.

    1. Of course, by thanking “everyone” he avoids inadvertently omitting “someone” who escaped his mind at the moment.

    2. I mentioned awhile ago that there were some things going on that were a big part of Coy and Ramsey deciding to go elsewhere. Neither of them said much of anything when leaving, but there were some issues that convinced them they didn’t want to be part of the program anymore.

  15. In late fall can Peyton Ramsey be the first college quarterback in history to complete a pass to a seagull?

    Instant replay on that one would last until wee hours of next morning.

  16. I’m gullible…but not that gullible.

    This is a very appropriate time for a Bad Company song. And no appropriate “thank you” delivered with roses and kisses to Allen could suggest Peyton has turned into “bad company.”

  17. I agree with Double Down, this offense is made for PR. Great move for him. Also agree with Podunker- PR’s statement was light on praise for TA and coaches- not disrespectful, but light. I hope Ramsey has a career year next year. I hope Penix and PR are first and second team All Big Ten. I was not a supporter of Ramsey before last year, but that kid willed himself to be a very good Big Ten Quarterback. Best of Luck to him as a player and future coach.

  18. From the NU student newspaper re: how NU recruited Ramsey. https://dailynorthwestern.com/2020/03/09/lateststories/you-guys-are-going-to-want-to-hear-this-inside-northwesterns-pursuit-of-grad-transfer-quarterback-peyton-ramsey/

    Ramsey said that Allen told him he would be the starter in 2020. “But there was something in me –– it was a gut decision more than anything –– that told me that I needed to go a separate way.”
    In other words, “Thanks, but no thanks, Tom. You told me what you really thought of me when you benched me for Pennix.”

    1. Davis,
      I looked at the article and find PR’s comments very troubling. If TA actually told PR the job for 2020 was his, what does that say to Penix? If, that is not what TA said, then it is indeed best that PR goes his separate way.

  19. PR’s comments don’t really trouble me, but they do provide insight about this young man’s ego. As you would expect for such a strong willed and determined competitor, his explanation of why he chose to transfer suggests PR has a very big ego. Being demoted to back-up wounded his pride and was a huge blow to his ego. Having a big ego is fine (most successful people have healthy egos), but PR’s comments suggest that his ego is bigger than his talent. “To thy known self be true.”

    PR played very well throughout the 2019 season and was a model teammate and leader. He demonstrated a belief in himself that allowed him to be very successful. But if PR ever thought he was more talented than Penix, he was not being honest with himself. Or, if PR thought he was entitled to be IU’s starting QB because of his previous experience, he set himself up for big disappointment. PR got a fair and thorough opportunity to win the starting job last summer and he lost out to a more talented QB with a lot more upside. I believe it was obvious to any objective observer that Penix was/is the more talented quarterback, and that his superior talent provided the team with a better chance of winning. The “emotion” PR referred to in the article appears to have carried over into the off-season, indicating that he took the demotion personally and that transferring was pay-back for not being named the starter. If TA really did tell PR that he would be the starter in 2020 (and that would be a departure from TA’s previous behavior and stated policy), then PR entering the transfer portal was a big “F— You” to TA in response. That “gut feeling” PR described sounds like emotion that resulted from his bruised ego.

    Problem is, I don’t think NW will be a better FB team in 2020. In fact, in spite of PR’s contributions, I don’t believe NW can win more than four or five games in 2020. Besides their non-conference opponents and Maryland, who are they going to beat? And PR is probably going to face the same level of competition from the former 5-star rated (and Elite 11) QB who arrives with a year of experience in NW’s offense and superior arm-talent. And PR is not going to have NW’s spring camp in which to learn the new offense. I hope it works out for PR, but we may witness a young man whose emotions caused him to jump out of the pan and land in the fire.

    1. Po,
      I think the reason why I am troubled by PR’s remarks is I held him in quite high esteem as an individual. I knew he was not talented enough to be a starting QB on a B1G east team needing a talented QB to be competitive. However, I believed him to be of superior character and such words, even if true, would never be spoken by him. I know he is young and we all did stupid things when young, but I thought I saw exceptional leadership qualities in him. Qualities which I now wonder if they were more superficial than real in the long run.

  20. Indeed, an “up yours” to Allen. As to the choice of NU, according to the article NU was #1 on his high school wish list but the ‘Cats lost interest in him early on. Now’s his chance to go back and prove ’em wrong.

    1. D,
      Of course they lost interest in him when they figured out his lack of arm strength. While NW may rely on ball control, you still have to have the downfield threat unless you have Wisky level beef up front to force the issue. Problem is, even that doesn’t do much good beyond the weak B1G west.

  21. For 2 years I’ve heard arm strength about a QB with an 8-5 record this past season. What Ramsey has in spades is the “it” factor which many big arms will never have. Peyton is nothing but total class. Not only is he of good character but strong character and he’s displayed it rightfully by looking for another opportunity that he has earned. He has my best wishes. The Cats have them a real prize.

    1. I have to disagree with you HC,
      IUFB got very lucky for once last season. No one expected IUFB to defeat the defending B1G west champs Northwester, a rebuilding Nebraska, or a what was supposed to be a very good Maryland team. However, the wheels ran off the track on all three programs unexpectedly. When IUFB faced the 3 upper echelon teams of OSU, PSU, and UM, the results were predictable. Not saying PR didn’t do well against the competition beatable by IUFB, but without a fair amount of IUFB good fortune for once, that doesn’t happen.

      1. I’ve seen enough success to easily recognize it when happening. PR creates that result and will bestow it as a 5th year senior on NW. IU can can and will do likewise if Penix doesn’t duplicate his past 2 seasons. Unlike Peyton he still has to prove he can own success.

  22. I’m not making any judgements about PR’s character at this point. From what I’ve observed in the past, it is excellent. But if what PR said was true about TA telling him that he’d be the starter in 2020, PR transferring suggests that his judgement was affected by strong emotion (i.e., his ego). It makes no sense to transfer from a known situation to an unknown situation, from a team with which you were familiar and comfortable to a situation with a lot of unknowns. Maybe PR is the kind of guy who thrives on serious challenges and convinces himself that he’s the underdog? If so, he should be delighted that he transferred from a program on the rise to a program that appears to be in decline. The move smacks of cutting one’s nose to spite one’s face, but maybe creating such a challenge is what pumps PR up? But IMO, the only reason a person makes that comment and then, in spite of it, chooses to transfer, is because he’s holding on to anger and resentment. So if the statement PR made about being told he’d be the starter in 2020 is true, and I don’t believe it is, it’s fair to question his judgment. If it is not true, and we’ll probably never know, then why would he have made such a statement to someone in the media? I think it was PR’s parting shot to TA and IU.

    1. PR didn’t make that statement, his dad did. He followed by saying that wasn’t the reason he left. There were some other issues that caused PR to want to leave, and they were the same with Coy. I’ve alluded to some issues, and both of those guys saw them and chose to get out.

      1. What statement is that, Bear? Here’s the quote: “After the season, coach Allen sat me down and told me he was appreciative of the way that I competed and the way that I came in,” Ramsey said. “Then he told me that the Indiana job was mine. But there was something in me –– it was a gut decision more than anything –– that told me that I needed to go a separate way.” [quotation marks in the original]. Doesn’t sound like pere Ramsey to me.

    2. PO, it can make plenty of sense to transfer into an unknown situation if the known situation is a bad one. Although NU’s situation seems pretty well known to me or anyone else who reads the sports pages.

  23. BD, care to elaborate?

    I think it goes without saying that if a young man decides to transfer he believes there are issues. Otherwise, they wouldn’t transfer. I think in the case of both Coy and PR, one of those issues is that they were at risk of not being the starters at their chosen positions. Coy was not guaranteed to play starting left tackle, and PR was probably not guaranteed to be IU’s starting QB.

    I can understand that after four years at one place, people might begin to wonder if the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. As much as I loved my time at IU, after four years, I was desperate to get out of Bloomington for a different environment.

    1. Who is the most talented q.b. PR vs MP? It depends on how the position and the 2 QBs are defined. Currently, PR is the most talented qb. The QB has to be able to stay on the field and be a part physically winning games. The future will tell more for next year. However, last year PR was the most talented qb.

    2. “To be honest with you, he is not leaving Indiana because he wasn’t going to be the starter,” Doug Ramsey said. “Peyton met with (coach) Tom Allen right before Christmas and was told he’d start. He’s not running away. He went into the portal because there were some things he didn’t have control over, some things I won’t get into. It was the right time for him to see what was out there.”

      Would usually dismiss this as the biased words of a helicopter parent, except Doug is a high school coach who knows that your word is your bond, and that players are often told someone is going to play in front of them. And there have been some concerns that there are issues around that. Same concerns came from Coy, who also left abruptly without thanks to coaches. Two seniors, two leaders, two guys totally respected in the locker room and on the field. Both too classy to say bad things but who both wanted out.

  24. Sorry t, but Penix is the more talented QB, period. I will admit PR was the more durable QB, and I really respect his physical toughness. He took some big shots last season and continued to get up and play well, never showing any signs of fear. I commend him for that. But in regard to durability and physical resiliency, PR had the advantage of being almost three years (31 months) older than Penix. Last year, PR was listed at 6’2″ and 216 lbs. while Penix was listed at 6’3″ and weighed 202 lbs. He had the advantage of experience and greater physical maturity. Come next summer’s camp, Penix should weigh about 220 lbs., with the increased weight being added muscle, which should make Penix less likely to suffer a season-ending injury.

    BD, thanks for posting Doug Ramsey’s comments. Interesting that he made reference to “things that he (PR) didn’t have control over.” Makes me wonder what things PR believes he will have control over at NW that he wouldn’t have control over at IU? Bottom line, IMO Coy and PR transferred to schools where they believed they’d have the best chance at being starters, or at least getting lot’s of playing time. Who can blame them for looking out for what they believe is in their best interests? While they’re leaving IU, I just hope they’re not leaving mad or resentful?

    1. I’m trying to be careful here, but the issue is that these two don’t believe they were being dealt with honestly and ethically, so they left.

  25. I wouldn’t put too much into Cronk or Ramsey leaving as with competition increases and young players push for starting positions, 3 year starters often feel insecure about starting once again as they think they have earned starting rights. It is more a result, at least looking from the outside, of increased competition from the younger classes that is a good thing even if a few seniors choose to pass up another year of fighting for a starting spot.

    I hope the team in 2020 shows the result of increased competition winning games against teams IU hasn’t defeated often or in a long time.

    1. With all due respect, what you’re saying here isn’t accurate as respects those two and their reasons for leaving.

      1. Bear, appreciate your care and discretion, and thanks for the Doug Ramsey quote. Where was that published? It wasn’t in The Daily Northwestern Article I linked.

        PO, RE: your opinion that “Coy and PR transferred to schools where they believed they’d have the best chance at being starters, or at least getting lot’s [sic] of playing time.” If that’s so, in regards to Ramsey it means that Ramsey didn’t trust Allen to keep his word. (Which leads me to also disagree with V13’s comment that these guys were worried about pressure from underclassmen- all that kind of pressure was off Ramsey- coach told him he’s “the man.” As to Cronk, the common wisdom was that he was going to start, but not at tackle. So your opinion might be modified to “start at the position he wanted to play.”

        The whole thing smells really bad. But I don’t blame either of these guys, or anyone else, for leaving if they think its the right move. Coaches do the same every year.

  26. “these two don’t believe they were being dealt with honestly and ethically,….” Those feelings are really ironic given how hard TA promotes LEO and goes out of his way to paint himself and his staff as honest and ethical coaches. That is certainly his reputation.

    BD, how close are you to this? I appreciate that you’re trying to be careful, but that suggests you have access to information that the rest of us do not. Are these other people’s opinions or are these impressions you’ve formed by reading what has been published? I’m not challenging you, but I am curious as to how much of this the general public isn’t being told and how serious a problem it might be.

    There are always two sides to every story. Coy and PR have their sides, and TA has his. I understand PR’s reason for transferring and I think it is obvious. As for Coy, not so much.

  27. It’s not what I’ve read, and I need to leave it at that. I mentioned a couple of months ago that I had been told about some things in the program that didn’t sound right (don’t remember the exact words I used) and that it might not be done. I am told there were trust issues that were the cause.

  28. BD, you say trust issues and that what I was talking about as competition being the issue. If you have solid info of something else then it is different. I don’t have inside info like I did in the past but can only look things from the outside IE Ramsey’s Dad complaints when Penix was named the starter etc. Cronk’s situation was different and he wanted to leave a year ago when his grandfather died so it is hard to tell what went on.

    As PO points out there are always two points of view especially between players and coaches. With DeBoer making the call between Ramsey and Penix it tells me that Doug and Peyton didn’t like to think Penix was more talented and capable of expanding the offense. I can only look at things from the outside and what happens from now on to see who is more accurate. I had a similar as a HC when I took over a team; the past coach played two platoon and I played the best players. I would loved to play two platoon if the talent was there. Who was right, they never won a Semi-State title despite very good talent and in 5 years my teams won two long with a State championship talent. That first year there were a lot of complaints about me but once we went to the State Title game the 30 players and parents that quit weren’t listened too any more. I valued all players and treated them fairly wanting the players to keep all the players but they didn’t like competition despite what they said.

    If there are other issues that come out then I will accept them but not based on info known right now, especially since it is the players coach Wilson brought in that are leaving. It may very well just be the different approach each coach took towards the players that is the difference.

    1. V13,
      I have been wondering if it was a KW holdover issue as well. I don’t think either PR or Cronk were prepared to sit or play 2nd string their senior years if they had a chance to compete for starting roles elsewhere. No question a durable MP is far more talented than PR. It may well be Bedford could have a higher ceiling than Cronk as well.

    2. Again, the issues with both Coy and Ramsey were not related to competition but were about trusting was said to them by coaches. You also think DeBoer alone made the web decision. That was both Allen and DeBoer, not just DeBoer.

      1. The QB decision, not the web decision, was made by DeBoer alone. It was as much if not more Allen. As far as Coy, he was told one thing and then told something else. Both players wanted out once that happened.

        1. BD,

          You may be limited in what you can say, but what you are saying right now does not add up. If it is not competition, what else can it be? Both were quality players so their spots on the team were not in jeopardy. If there was team rule or how things would be run question, then obviously, the HC would have the final say. I know that decision makers often listen to all sides of a decision, but ultimately must make a final call.

          I also know that many times when a decision maker listens to a particular position with a sympathy towards a particular point of view, it can get construed to be approval. This happens all the time in HR related issues which can occur with a single individual or multiple individuals. When the final decision is made, there can be major disappointment on one side or the other. Also, I have seen decisions made that were overruled by higher levels, but the lower level had to take the blame for it without acknowledging being overruled. I know the question is why would anyone allow this, but it could be they decided the particular issue was make or break in nature.

          Just speculating, as your comments leave far more questions than answers.

          1. I’m being careful because I don’t want to betray a confidence, so I’m only willing to say so much. Let’s just say that in separate situations each was told one thing and then another thing was done. They both thought they were misled. Up to Coy and Ramsey to speak on this in detail if they want. But Coy wasn’t beat out and neither was PR, but both packed up and left their teammates and close friends.

  29. At some point, I’d like a real journalist to ask TA questions about Coy and PR’s transfers. Given the innuendo of mis-trust in a program whose leader promotes LEO, I think it is a legitimate question to ask. I’m sure TA is limited in what he could say in response, and I believe he would take the high road and not say anything that could be interpreted as being derogatory toward either player, but the comments that are already public are a valid basis for the questions.

    When I was a Junior on my HS’s varsity FB team, we had a senior who was a good running back. He had started as a Junior and had been productive. However, we had a sophomore who was obviously better, a kid who became a 3-time first team All Sate player and an All American his Senior season. He went on to play on Bear Bryant’s last Alabama National Championship team. He was simply a superior athlete. It was nothing that the senior running back failed to do, it was just that our sophomore was a phenom; bigger, stronger and much faster. Our coach had no choice but to list the sophomore as the starter and the senior as the back-up. Coach made it clear that the senior would still get plenty of playing time, but that was not good enough. His pride was hurt, his ego bruised and his parents furious, the Senior quit the team the week before our first game. Unfortunately, in doing so he cost himself a chance to play college football. He was not good enough to be recruited by a high major FB programs, but he could have played for mid major programs and quality D-IAA (now FCS) schools. Our sophomore back went on to set all the Conference and District single-game and single-season records for rushing yards and TDs.

    Assuming no more information will come out about Coy and PR’s reason for transferring, I’ll thank them both for their excellent contributions to IU, and wish them well. Then I’ll forget about them, looking forward with confidence that IU FB remains on the rise and will have another good season in 2020.

  30. If anyone believes TA has a problem because of the two recent graduate transfers, consider Wichita State Basketball. Five players from this season have announced they are transferring! That’s a total of 11 scholarship players in the last three off-seasons that have left WSU. I’m no expert, but that sounds like a program that is coming apart from the inside out. Maybe someone at WSU should do some “exit interviews” and find out why so many, experienced quality players are bailing out of what was once a successful program.

  31. This has gone from Peyton Ramsey to Peyton Place….and it’s fair to say BearDown is a very “complex person.”

  32. They’ve left on their own call with their own ambitions. Journalists would just be wasting time. It’s over.

  33. Greed. Wichita State has the good life in the Mo Valley. Wichita State should have stayed there.
    Though Creighton is successful I think Creighton should have stayed put also. Then, the Mo Valley could have tried to get a couple high level teams to join Mo Valley.

  34. Po. For 2019 football season I would give you Penix and I would take Ramsey. Who was responsible for the most wins. It was Ramsey. That’s reality. Not Penix. Also reality. Anything else is speculation because it didn’t happen and isn’t real. For 2020 Penix has something to prove. First, being able to stay on the field.

  35. Obviously I appreciated both Penix and Ramsey. And I also appreciate that “availability is the most important ability.” But Penix is simply a better athlete and a better quarterback. His arm-talent is special and far superior to PR. That arm talent qualifies Penix to be a “game-changer,” whereas PR was a really good game-manager. IU needs quarterbacks with game-changing talent in order to overcome the team’s shortcomings.

    Coming into 2020, Penix will have the benefit of experience as a starter. That experience will be invaluable. He’ll also be bigger and stronger, making him less susceptible to season-ending injuries. If our new OC limits the number of designed QB-run plays, reducing the risk of Penix taking big hits, and allows Penix’s back-up to play once games are well in hand or are obviously lost, then Penix should have a great season.

  36. Speaking of changing games PR manager of 8 win season not Penix. To be a game changer QB has to be on the field. PR was on the field.
    Penix should have a great season. So should have Romeo.

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