He is in the building

Tom Crean is seated in the first row behind the Washington basket. If you are watching at home, he is wearing his Crimson pullover. Every other coach is wearing a suit. Tubby Smith looks particularly dapper.

Crean, I suppose, is hoping to stand out.

Dane Fife and Ohio State assistant Brandon Miller are also in the building.


  1. He also took Moses to Cheeseburger in Paradise. Doesn’t surprise me. I wonder if he takes recruits to the Bloomington Wal Mart, too.

  2. I’ve never had a bad meal at Cheeseburger and Paradise. Hell if somebody is buying what the hay.

  3. I just think that if you are trying to impress a recruit, you should go to a classic place like Nick’s, which has history, is decorated with IU stuff, and is located in the old part of town. I don’t know if there is a better campus stroll in the nation than a walk that leads down through the sample gates onto Kirkwood into quaint, amenable, historic old Bloomington. If you are competing with the lofty East Coast culture and architecture in the Georgetown area, you want to make sure that Moses sees and eats the best of Bloomington.

  4. Maybe, he asked the current players how many times has tc taken them out to dinner???? That answer would be never, so don’t expect it again… Could that be a dose of reality on actually how tc really is??

  5. Fairchild,

    He was in town for 2 days…I’m sure they made it to other places then cheeseburgers in paradise……they had to have around 6 meals….that means they went to 5 other places…

  6. I’m a big Crean fan; however, I am also a food snob, and don’t like corporate chain restaurants that get everything they need from the Sysco truck.

    I just needed to express my frustration.

    Maybe Crean can hire me as dining coordinator for recruiting.

  7. Ding dong the witch is dead, the witch is dead.
    Ding dong the wicked witch is dead! 73-66 WVU over UK!


  8. Bart,

    Good point, but in the end, if where the recruit went to eat is factoring that heavily in where he’d like to go to college, I’m not sure I’d want that player here.

    Plus, Nick’s is 21-and-over.

    Conwayhill — no one knows what the hell you’re talking about.

  9. How much could a foreign kid that has been here only four months from Nigeria care about a chain restaurant or not.

  10. Wow. No more Kentucky. What a relief. And now I can say that my Dawgs lost to a Final Four team and potentially a national champ/national champ “competer.”

    What a great night for basketball fans in the state of Indiana. Give me Baylor and Tennessee tomorrow and we’ll have the most refreshing-looking Final FOur that I have seen in a long time.

  11. Casey face the truth,, not all the decietful lies ways to make yourself; tc and flunkies a living while tearing, mistreating, causing hostile conflicts with your players, youthful, honorable young mens lives down,, that’s not I.U. standards only the devils. Please read the standard handbook of the loyal I.U. Nation!!!

  12. Does anyone understand the post from dboisssdetroit above? I’m just glad my name isn’t Casey.

  13. PUke gone. pUKe gone. Baylor, please make dOOk gone too.

    The conversation regarding food has taken recruiting analysis to a whole new level. I know I am much more informed and ready to predict the next signee because of it.

    I think dboisssdetroit thinks that Crean is mean. Although I have to admit that’s a guess because I don’t speak the language his post was written in.

  14. Yeah, I don’t speak that language either.


    If what you just stated is the “truth,” I’d just as soon be content to go on believing lies. I have no idea what you’re talking about, and can only assume you went to University of Milwaukee – Wisconsin, despite your dream of playing for Crean at Marquette.

    You probably averaged 0.7 points and 4 fouls per game on your class 5C high school basketball team and took Crean’s lack of interest as an insult, interpreting it as a reflection of how much of a meany he is.

    For your next post, try consulting a few outside sources for advice in coherence, and maybe draw up a couple of drafts until you actually have something that makes sense.

    Also, it’s spelled IU. There are no periods necessary. Or is that in the handbook? Did I and every other IU fan in the world miss that?

    For the record…I love most of the items at Cheeseburger In Paradise. Gotta love the sweet potato chips.

  15. To paraphrase Martin Luther King: Kentucky’s gone, Kentucky’s gone, thank God Almighty, Kentucky’s gone!!

  16. Being very ignorant I support Duke.

    I want to see the Butler fighting the Duke in the final. And there I want to see Duke win again.

    I am an idiot who can’t forget Mike Krzyzewski was once (26 years ago) an assistant coach at Indiana.

    But I think the Volunteers are dangerous. Let MSU take them out, then lose to Butler. If Baylor beats the Duke let them lose to Butler in the final. That’s what I hope for.

    dboissssdetroit’s message worries me a little, I think he wrote it while in tears or on the verge of breaking into tears…

  17. It changed last year…kids can eat at Nicks, Yogis, etc now. I know this for a fact. Sampson had Rose at Yogis and it did not work out. Maybe a salad from Marsh would work…


    Hard to beat the breaded tenderloin at Trojan Horse..A very generously sized sandwich..The cracker-crisp golden patty is deep fried to perfection and extends well beyond the perimeter the edges of a perfectly married soft bun..I like to order it with a “dry bun”(this is grill lingo for no butter spread) and the standard offering of dill pickle slices…I add my own generous portion of ketchup at the table..The fresh hand-cut fries are to die for. Order a large basket.

    Dessert: The most delicious baklava..I like to go overkill with a scoop the baklava ice cream on side..If you plan on sharing with dining partner, prepare for a round of spoon fencing at a feverishly increasing pace with every bite..Highly addictive concoction of nuts, honey, and multiple layers of butter-drenched filo dough. I doubt you’ll ever taste better.

  19. ^^^ There you have it. What is more, the proceeds go to a Bloomington business, helping to keep the local community strong, prosperous, and most of all, unique.

    Cheeseburger in Paradise has 33 locations, sells fleece sweaters with their logo, has corporate offices and would probably try to go public if it could. I like the sound of Ice Cream Nachos and Sweet Potato Chips, but in the end, I’d have to, on ethical grounds and flavor grounds, go for the Pork Tenderloin Sandwich.

  20. trojans fries are actually quite terrible. plate full of limp greasy, burnt (last time) sticks. the gyros are good though

  21. lala- you know, funny you say that; I had the fries for the first time last week, and they were greasy and limp. I liked the taste of fresh potato, but it gave me the impression that they weren’t doing them the right way. Home-made fries require two cookings, with a draining in between. If you skip the first cooking, they will always come out limp.

    Still, the Tro-Ho is a good place.

  22. ^^Please do. I’m sure Engel could offer us a few words on the fries, as well 🙂

    By the way, I didn’t realize that the pints there were so expensive. 5 bucks a pop. Yikes.

  23. Don’t be afraid to ask for a fresh batch from the kitchen. I’ve had a couple rare experiences when they weren’t up to par..I send them back and get a delicious fresh helping straight from the fryer. They’re pretty hefty cuts, so don’t expect them to stand like totem poles for very long, Kemo Sabe.

    I’m quite the regular face..I ride into town quite often..Maybe the waitresses just adore me..Tro-Ho, Silver, no limp sticks, away!

    Booze: I usually just get a bottle of Budweiser and frosty mug..I think it’s still in the $2.50 range..Is that unreasonable? Tonto no think so.

  24. A small correction to what someone posted somewhere above: 36 years ago Mike K was indeed an assistant coach with Indiana University. Not (just) 26. Besides, if I am not mistaken Coach Mike K has assisted Coach Bobby K in two other instances (in 1979 in Puerto Rico, for the PanAm games — when the incident with the policeman occurred — and in 1984, for the Summer Olympics in LA, when Michael Jordan, Steve Alford, and the others, came away with the gold). Duke is about to win, as I write, for the 11th Final Four appearance of former Indiana Univ. and Bob Knight assistant Mike Krzyzewski. For those who have read “Good Knight / Knightmares” that book with two halves printed upside down, along with the covers, and for many others it’s clear that Krzyzewski’s Indiana connection is truly hard evaluate at this time, and virtually impossible to separate from his (very complex) personal relationship with Knight, being so convoluted that it can be characterized at the same time: (a) virtually expired, (b) running deep, (c) very genuine and (d) largely symbolical. The personal relationship with Knight is entirely due to Knight’s competitive nature — but I am not going to go into details, they’re in that book.

    Also: does anyone want fries with that?

  25. By my calculations Wooden is first with 12 final fours followed by Dean Smith and (now) Mike K with 11. Hats off for such an impressive accomplishment.

  26. More talk of Duke? Why do we care? No wonder you get limp fries in Bloomington…Maybe you just love the Alford shorts…? At least Mike Davis and the 2003 Hoosiers knew how to stop the beady-eyed anteater and his #1 ranked team from adding another Final Four to their list.

    Of course, the accomplishment was trivialized because we didn’t hang another banner. Guess that’s when Final Four was not that big a deal..And it was soooo, sooooo, long ago..Seven whole years! Too far back to mention in a conversation attempting to glorify Duke.

    I tend to believe only true Hoosier fans seem unlikely to forget that Duke was not unbeatable the last time they played cream and crimson in the NCAA tournament.

  27. I would argue that Tom Crean had a significant coaching impact on Tom Izzo and was the behind the scenes impetus for much of the success the Spartans have enjoyed over the last decade..They have been riding his wave of basketball knowledge long after he departed for Marquette…Why must we always assume learning to be so hierarchical? Do you believe it’s always a trickle down phenomenon? Knowledge is not gravity..It can move upward and downward. Do we really think Butler’s 33-year-old church boy in diapers coach, a former marketing geek for Eli Lilly, is not sucking the basketball brains out of some b-ball wizard in the shadows? This aint Kansas, Dorothy.
    And isn’t it widely known that Knight learned everything from Coach K? Soon, when we our making trips to the Final Four every 3 to 4 years, it will be glaringly evident that Izzo learned everything from Tom Crean. There is your cream and crimson connection to the tournament. In 1976 it was the genius of Coach K imparted onto Knight..Today it is the genius of Tom Crean imparted onto Izzo. Soon we will be piling up Final Four banners faster than the anteater from Durham can snort Duke basketball talent out of the grounds his Indiana coaching roots.

    I’m in the mood for Rick Astley…’Cause together forever with my Hoosiers.

  28. Knight learned quite a bit from Tates Lock, while at West Point, especially defenseive philosophy.

  29. I would argue that Tom Crean had a significant coaching impact on Tom Izzo and was the behind the scenes impetus for much of the success the Spartans have enjoyed over the last decade… They have been riding his wave of basketball knowledge long after he departed for Marquette…

    I agree wholeheartedly with what you wrote, the key points being: (a) “long,” and (b) “departed.” Let’s hope he departs soon so we can start enjoying the same kind of success the Spartans currently have… I’m all for it.

  30. Nice try, limp fries..The brilliance of your Coach K finally found permanent home at Duke.
    The brilliance of Tom Crean has now found permanent home at IU.

    You asked for the connection, you got it.

  31. ^Good work above there, guy(s), for the most part. A little too much Engel there for me, though.

    The more Rick Astley, the better.

  32. Beware of too much brilliance from Crean! There’s this kind of brilliance (that he seems to possess) that gives a horrific meaning to “permanent”.

    There’s more Indiana at Xavier and Duke than in Crean and you know it.

  33. First I hope Butler will demolish the Spartans.

    I’m going to root for Coach K all the way.

    Meanwhile who’s calling our Sausage Coach brilliant? I’d say the best you can say about him is that he’s… glossy. That’s the extent of his “brilliance,” bro.

    Crean is the man who put “tan” in exultant and “late” in elated and last but not least he put “ham” in champion. Enough said.

  34. His contributions, I agree, are too important and too numerous to list here. We are lucky to have him here.

  35. I’m not sure if you put your “Iggy” in a piggy, but there is no doubt you crapped “fan” from infantile “ass” your assaults unjust.

  36. If the walking, clapping, sausage’s history repeats itself, we will lose about half of this “very promising freshmen class” before they graduate.
    In my opinion, only 4 of them are promising and Sampson brought in Elston. Hulls was coming here no matter who the coach was. I credit Crean with Creek and Watford. Lets hope he can shock us and actually hold onto them now.

  37. Infantile vs. incompetent: Jordan Crawford was a Hoosier. Crean the Fraud came. Jordan Crawford went away and what a player he is now for the Musketeers! I miss Crawford and I don’t consider the phony Crean a Hoosier at all: Hoosier fans can only wish we’d be where Oklahoma was two years after Sampson left.

    Never noticed until now the “ill” in Chill.

  38. You never graduate to stand on top the “hill” with Crean and Chill. You’ll live forever in the valley of muck and Alford’s luck.

  39. I just don’t understand how people can say our program was devastated by Sampson. The NCAA barely came down on us. The self imposed sanctions were not all that bad. Crean decimated an abundance of talent that was left to him. He is the one who devastated the program and decided to start over.

  40. Watch out here comes some more mud from the most astute basketball mind on the planet, coach 4disreguards.

  41. Jubilee,
    I would rather have Crean than Sampson, but that doesn’t take a whole lot.
    Lets bring in Alford or Stevens.

  42. Not a very good Elvis, but quite the handsome Jesus. I’m going to stop with this. Pointless.

    Sure, Crean could have made more effort to keep some players on board. I wish he would have..I like a lot of the Hoosiers on the Sampson team. Unfortunately, the Hoosier Nation/Yacht Club would have never supported such action. Do you think former Hoosiers that tore up season tickets over the hiring of Sampson would have been behind Crean if he attempted to salvage anyone attached to Sampson’s name? It was a witch hunt..The witch hunt started long before the NCAA dropped their bomb. Is it really such a surprise that few coaches wanted the IU job? Easy to desire handing it Alford now. The rebuilding has begun and the savages have been fed. Do you think you stand for a lone cause? There is a huge crowd that would like nothing more than to oust Crean in favor of Alford. I’m not part of that crowd. In my mind it represents the same crowd that burned those kids at the stake that you so divinely attach your heart and memories.

  43. correction(not intended to be a statement directed at “Correction”, but merely a correction of tense in word use in above sentence):

    I [liked] a lot of the Hoosiers…

    All I wanted to do was send some love the direction of a Trojan Horse pork tenderloin sandwich. I should have recommended the standard gyros..and maybe the breaded dill pickle spears.


  44. Not quite goodbye..

    Hmm? What bomb? Maybe you’re the bomb.

    Is there a Division 1 program in history of the college game that had a letter of recruiting allegations put on their front door step during the final stretch of a very successful basketball season? The NCAA knew the repercussions of the timing their actions..They knew the entrenched old school boys would rip Sampson to and the kids he recruited to shreds..They knew their actions would destroy the innocent bystanders and a season of playing their hearts out.

    “The NCAA barely came down on us?” What? The NCAA came at IU with a wrecking ball over mouse turds. I will forever believe there were under the table dealings and prearranged agendas to take IU down at the most disruptive time possible. Your Alford crap is difficult enough to tolerate. Now you’re going to play the bigger fool and pretend the NCAA didn’t perform the most heavy-handed slap possible to a university with clean recruiting practices for over 30 years?

    The soft sentence given to IU was after the lynching an entire team over 3-way phone calls.

  45. Makes me sick to see hypocrites now throwing well-wishes and kisses at Bassett. After Dakich made public trial he was the furthest thing possible from an IU poster child and IU “culture”?…After perceptions and labels of mud thrown at his name for being a junkie and flunky from Kelvin Sampson’s team of thugs..? What bomb? Please.

    Crean is our only hope. He may be far from the perfect coach..I can live with that. I’m just glad we landed a coach with gift of gab and enough ego to keep the Yacht Club and the 4guards clan away from controlling Indiana basketball for the next 10 years.

  46. How many rounds you want to go? I’m not part of any culture. I have nothing to lose….nothing to gain. Just a simple old fart that wanted to see kids live a dream and play for the Indiana Hoosiers. I want to beat Purdue a few more times and hang a banner that can collect a few years coating of dust before I become dust.

    Bring it on.

  47. Chill,

    Forget the fries and the baklava, it’s only when you start bleeding on [y]our very own cross that what you write elevates itself to being authentic, relevant, that it sometimes becomes haunting. Never apologize for showing feeling; when you do so apologize for the truth. Crean has been serving us limp fries for two years now, if you’re going to put up with that and become his advocate expect more and more people to send their plates back to the kitchen by this time next year. Wherever you go go with all your heart. It so appears that you’d prefer that your heart be full of ketchup, instead of blood. The most exhausting thing in life is being insincere. Remember that each one of us is born an original. We should strive to not die a copy. It’s better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

  48. Not sure Crean’s highfalutin® style can be called “gift of gab”. He’s not only not going to keep the Yacht Club away from controlling Indiana basketball, he will actually sell it to the first ten Doc Rivers he will meet in an elevator, at breakfast, or on the plane. I want to know what of all Crean’s actions in the last two years makes you think he has the [good intentions,] will and the necessary strength to defend Indiana basektball. He doesn’t seem to believe in anything but money. Jordan Crawford was a freshman who believed in basketball. He took his love for the game elsewhere, had the inner strength to wait one whole year and came back just as we remembered him. That’s enough to gain anybody’s trust and respect. What can you credit Crean with during the past two years to give us an ounce of faith that he’s the man, that he believes in this program more than in the money he makes from acting like its head coach? Remember how concerned you were last year that Pritchard might transfer to Illinois? Pritchard is the shadow of the high school player he was. Dumes had an absolutely awful second year — was he the senior we all hoped he’d be. Did Tijan ever break Adam Ahlfeld’s records? Do you really think that Malik wouldn’t have outscored his shoe size this season with Creek and Roth sidelined? Did Crean? Do you think Nick Williams would have allowed these 20+ losses this year if he had stayed here? What did Crean do other than clap chaotically back and forth on the sidelines for two years to make you feel so warm inside?

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