Few moves on depth chart

The Indiana depth chart released Monday had few items that were significantly different than they were on Saturday. Just as they were during the game, senior defensive end Terrance Thomas and sophomore defensive tackle Mick Mentzer are listed as starters. After being listed as a starting defensive end in last week’s depth chart, sophomore Adam Replogle is listed as a starting defensive tackle again. Junior Donnell Jones is listed as the starting weakside linebacker while junior Lenyatta Kiles is listed as the starting free safety. However, Indiana coach Bill Lynch said that lineup is only for the situation when the Hoosiers use a nickel package — five defensive backs — and doesn’t mean Jones is a full-time linebacker.

The rest of the depth chart follows:

72 Andrew McDonald, 6-6, 306, Sr./Jr.
77 Josh Hager, 6-9, 302, Sr./Jr.
66 Aaron Price, 6-4, 305, So./Fr.
65 Marc Damisch, 6-7, 317, Jr./So.
60 Will Matte, 6-2, 293, Jr./So.
62 Jordan Marquette, 6-3, 285, Sr./5th
70 Justin Pagán, 6-5, 308, Jr./Jr.
67 Pat McShane, 6-5, 301, So./Fr.
73 James Brewer, 6-8, 331, Sr./5th
70 Justin Pagán, 6-5, 308, Jr./Jr.
88 Damarlo Belcher, 6-5, 210, Jr./Jr.
84 Jamonne Chester, 6-1, 202, So./Fr.
1 Terrance Turner, 6-3, 209, Sr./5th
13 Kofi Hughes, 6-2, 200, Fr./Fr.
2 Tandon Doss, 6-3, 200, Jr./Jr.
81 Duwyce Wilson, 6-3, 196, So./Fr.
4 Ben Chappell, 6-3, 242, Sr./5th
8 Dusty Kiel, 6-2, 230, So./Fr.
7 Edward Wright-Baker, 6-1, 221, So./Fr.
28 Darius Willis, 6-0, 224, Jr./So.
21 Trea Burgess, 6-1, 226, Sr./5th
26 Nick Turner, 6-0, 188, So./Fr.
41 Max Dedmond, 6-5, 257, Sr./Jr.
83 Ted Bolser, 6-6, 252, So./Fr.
DE (Drops)
44 Darius Johnson, 6-0, 252, Sr./Jr.
34 Kevin Bush, 6-3, 248, Jr./So.
98 Adam Replogle, 6-3, 295, So./So.
75 Nicholas Sliger, 6-3, 286, Jr./So.
69 Mick Mentzer, 6-4, 303, Jr./So.
97 Larry Black, Jr., 6-2, 326, Jr./So.
DE (Anchors)
51 Terrance Thomas, 6-1, 265, Sr./Sr.
93 Fred Jones, 6-4, 272, Sr./Jr.
10 Donnell Jones, 5-10, 223, Sr./Jr.
33 Damon Sims, 6-3, 224, So./Fr.
53 Jeff Thomas, 6-1, 245, Sr./Jr.
48 Leon Beckum, 5-11, 235, Sr./Jr.
46 Tyler Replogle, 6-2, 239, Sr./Sr.
42 Chad Sherer, 6-0, 222, Jr./So.
15 Matt Ernest, 6-2, 189, Sr./Jr.
23 Adrian Burks, 6-0, 185, Sr./5th
22 Lenyatta Kiles, 5-11, 196, Jr./Jr.
20 Lawrence Barnett, 5-10, 189, So./Fr.
5 Mitchell Evans, 6-3, 206, Sr./Sr.
30 Jarrell Drane, 6-2, 214, Sr./Jr.
6 Richard Council, 6-1, 198, Sr./5th
7 Andre Kates, 5-11, 195, Sr./Jr.
16 Mitch Ewald, 5-10, 179, So./Fr.
99 Nick Freeland, 5-11, 192, Jr./So.
12 Chris Hagerup, 6-5, 203, Sr./Jr.
10 Adam Pines, 6-0, 184, Jr./So.
95 Jeff Sanders, 6-4, 230, Sr./5th
56 Josh Keyt, 6-1, 243, So./Fr.
17 Teddy Schell, 6-5, 229, Sr./Jr.
8 Dusty Kiel, 6-2, 230, So./Fr.
2 Tandon Doss, 6-3, 200, Jr./Jr.
81 Duwyce Wilson, 6-3, 196, So./Fr.
26 Nick Turner, 6-0, 188, So./Fr.
2 Tandon Doss, 6-3, 200, Jr./Jr.
1 Terrance Turner, 6-3, 209, Sr./5th
81 Duwyce Wilson, 6-3, 196, So./Fr.


  1. Unbelievable that Matt Ernest is still starting after that joke of a performance last week. What an embarrassment.

  2. As bad as he was, Council is still so much worse, b/c he’s been doing this for THREE years. Now that is an embarrassment.

  3. Jimmy,

    After watching that piss poor performance by the IU defense, there is no way you (or anyone) could possibly drink enough of the Lynch Kool-Aid to put a positive spin on that crap.

    We all expected what they got because we all know IU has Richard “Beaten like a rented mule” Council at CB and 2 freaking wide receivers playing CB & Safety.

    Brian George and Joe Palcic need to be removed, their “co” defensive coordinating just doesn’t cut it!

  4. Guys,

    I would just once like to hear Coach Lynch say with passion that something is “unacceptable.”

    As poor as his play may have been, the defense’s problems are not all RC. His play is just disappointing like everybody else’s.

    Most of these guys were backups on a poor defense a year ago that lost most of its starters to graduation. This was their first game against equal competition this season. How can major improvement be expected?

    I can’t really see our sideline well from our seat location. Does any of the coaches make an effort to “fire up” or “get after” somebody after poor play? Does it appear to be accepted? Surely somebody over their is trying to correct the problems–they gotta be.

  5. I wonder what defensive depth chart changes were made by Rich Rod this week after IU?

  6. In high school I had to play on both sides of the ball,both RB&WR on offense and CB@SS on defense because we did not have enough boys who could play. I am not saying that coach has to play guys both ways but his team is not balanced and it is killing us. Coach Hep said “I am going to put my best players on the field and it does not matter what they came here to play”. Lynch has to fix this defense and if that means not red shirting freshman or switching players from offense to defense then he has to do it or we are going to end up with just 4 wins.

  7. But Hep did openly reveal his priorities, such as the 7 Blocks of Limestone for the offense. He never ever expressed recruiting the Men from Mars for defense. Three seasons ago the scoring was Lewis to Hardy. Look how far the offense has come since and now with a strong depth chart. Hell we now have TE’s with hands. The D is now the work in progress. Realistically at Hep’s time of death, building the IU FB program was at least a five year process. His death may have added a sixth.

  8. Why would he not? His D lost the stats big. The next game like that may not work out for them. I would think his D coordinator would be going sleepless this week after being pushed around by lowly IU.

  9. If IU offered to trade him the stats for the win, I doubt he would…I’m sure most coaches that know what they are doing are making changes week-to-week in order to improve their preparation for winning games. I really don’t care what the UM staff is doing from here on.

    In any event, it appears now that RC is going to be out for awhile due to injury and the IU staff will have to adjust. Sad to hear a player is injured, hope the next one is ready to step in and help the team win.

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  11. Not sure you bash the whole secondary for getting torched by the Heisman trophy front-runner. I agree Council has looked bad against more than just Michigan, but i haven’t seen big Mistakes by the other 3 before this week. OSU may be the same, but I will wait until after that to decide. All IU fans have complained about before Michigan was stopping the run. If IU cab beat Ark St, Ill, and N’western and be sitting at 6-2 we’ll be fine. If the DB’s look bad against those 3, then we’re in trouble.

  12. Have any of you actually watched IU this year? Yes, Richard Council is terrible, but even worse are his replacements. We just aren’t deep enough. We have worked hard on recruiting, but to say comments like well if we aren’t fast enough than why don’t we go get faster guys… That’s about the same as saying why doesn’t Tom Crean just get guys like John Wall and Cousins?

    Guess what, he’s trying but big men and great pg’s don’t just grow on trees, and for Lynch, neither do corners. If we had better options we wouldn’t have to play two wide receivers, but we do. Look at the NFL, they are the best of the best and there are maybe 3 really good ‘lock down’ corners in the league. Every team has a corner that gets picked on. It’s not like Michigan had corners that could stop us, and they are a football powerhouse that has a rich history. If they can’t get better corners than they have now , how is IU supposed to magically in 2 to 3 years of Lynch recruiting with our teams history pluck out awesome corners and safety’s?

    Football isn’t as easy as basketball to turn around. There are more positions to fill. I would say I’m very happy with what Lynch has done with the current and future at positions of QB, WR, and RB. He needs help on Safety, DB, and Linebackers. I can’t really comment on line play except for we don’t have enough penetration on D and our run blocking is bad, but pass protection is good at times. Take into account that besides QB all of those positions need at least 2 if not more Big Ten worthy recruits that aren’t just good, but on par with or better than the historically great teams recruits in our conference. That would just be the starting lineup, not to mention backups.

    Now look at basketball, I’ll be generous and say you need above league average/stars at 1 guard, 1 forward, and 1 center with the two other positions filled out with on par to slightly above average guys, then throw in capable backups at point, wing, and Big and you have a Big Ten Championship capable team. To be competitive at the top you need to do well on 3 recruits really. 3 top 50 recruits from 4 classes can make a competitive team if filled in with average players who don’t screw up around them.

    If everyone on here is so quick to grant Crean a thumbs up and some time, then how is Lynch in the same time period halfway out the door? I don’t know if either coach is right in the long run, but the fact that our football team has taken Michigan to the final minute 2 straight years is the most exciting football we’ve had in some time, we actually had hope to win that game and it wasn’t a loss from the gun. Our basketball team is traditionally one of the best in the conference and we are all excited about being .500 this year and seeing it as progress. You don’t all have to agree, but at least have some consistency in your requirements and expectations before defending one coach to their death and constantly complaining about another one. I for one, would rather give Lynch a chance to continue improving over having to start over yet again with a coach of probably the same resume. It’s IU, we aren’t getting a top name coach unless we change course and really shell out some $, so why not keep a guy who has improved this team that works for cheap and keeps things clean?

  13. For me, it is simple. Improving is not winning! Also, Mich has been down big time so depending on how you look at it, IU might not be that much better than in the past. There was a year that IU had Randle El and Levron Williams and put the smack down on Wisconsin in an away game. That team was one win away from a bowl, maybe 2001 or 2…not sure. That team was almost as talented on offense as this years team but with a slightly better defense. I am not sure I see the progress today people talk about. The wins and losses don’t show it at all and that is what I and everyone should care about. The reason I am on Lynch is the childish mistakes he and his coaching staff make. Going man D coverage at the end of the game last week and mismanagement of the clock is all blogs and media are talking about and you know what…I wondered about it as well and so did most people who know the game of football. You don’t make these mistakes at this level, period! All you heard after the bowl game vs OSU a few years back was IU has 17 starters back and they will tear it up and football is looking up and blah blah blah. Nobody ever talks about how we follow up in the end with 2 losing a$$ seasons. It is freakin embarrassing!!! Being competetive does not cut it for me, I want to win!

    IU bball hit the bottom of the barrel. Crean had an empty fridge, really empty. Lynch had a fridge full of veggies, fruits, meats, and quality everything handed to him by Hep. Don’t hang it on “oh, if only Kellen Lewis had kept his nose clean”. I hear that crap all the time. You work with what you have and dammit you put the best players on the field to play. Maybe after the coaching staff flew to Nevada to learn the pistol for Lewis…maybe they should have scrapped it when Chap took over. Oh, no…we invested the $$$ to travel. Screw that, run the spread, go old school I and split back, or run the option with Thig but oh no we have the pistol where the RB is 10 yards back with no lead blocker. I could go on!

    I will give Crean time, he started with nothing and has made pretty good decisions and works his butt off but Lynch while a class act needs to win a damn big football game and simply has not ever come through!

    Now where is the tylenol???

  14. If Lynch had simply won 6 games each of the last 2 seasons I would be satisfied today and I would not be complaining about going to the Rose Bowl. I ask for 6,7,8 wins a year. Is that too much to ask?

  15. If IU can beat Ark. St., Ill and N. Western.

    Ark. St. should be a win, but it is one I have had a bad feeling about since we scheduled it.

    Interesting tie in for myself to Ark. St., my dad went to school there and was a member of the basketball team his freshman year until a heart attack (at 19) forced him out of school. My Great Grandmother taught there, I believe she was in the English Dept.

    Illinois played OSU very well, though Pryor did get injured in that game. I think IU can beat them, but it isn’t for sure.

    Northwestern, if you haven’t noticed, is 5-0 and playing good football.

    I really don’t see an easy win on the rest of the schedule.

  16. J Pat, if IU would just win six, seven, or eight games every other year, I’d be satsified.

    Stop making excuses folks, good coaches don’t need six years to turn a program around, especially not at a great school like IU! Lynch took a team to a good bowl game four years ago. Today, IU’s defense is worse, much worse. They’ve gone backwards. Remember, their first three wins were against really, really terrible teams with a collective record of 1 and 11 before last weekend. And even those weak teams racked up significant yards and points.

    Because of that defense, IU may not win another game this year. Ark State is better than the first three teams we played this, by a long shot. And if IU does not win another game and goes 3 – 8, does IU keep Lynch for yet another year?

  17. Mike P, that is wild about your dad and grandma at Ark St. Why did he have the attack at 19?

    Podunker, at 3 and 8…NO WAY!!! I am scared at 4 or 5, he will but it is still early…even with a bad defense!

  18. JPat, I really appreciate your posts. It reminds me that I am not alone, or imagining things. Comparing Crean and Lynch is just not fair.

    And I agree with MikeP–there is no automatic win on this schedule the rest of the way. Remember we are reasonably free of the injury issues so far…what if a couple of key people miss some time? Ohhhh boy.

    Sorry no Tylenol here. We take Aleve at our house.

  19. “a fridge full – quality everything handed to him” The only players from that fridge that could be considered talent in the top half of the B10 were headliners “Lewis to Hardy” and Porter on D. Hardy and Porter were recruited by DiNardo. The reality is Hep was promoting IU FB positively(which I agree totally)but had not turned the corner at IU yet in either recruiting or W/L. At the time of Hep’s death, the FB program was still a four year project.

  20. Clarion, my reality is that I was excited as heck coming off the bowl loss. The IU football media and coaches said we ha 17-18 starters back and it was on the up and up and I was not worried. I guess I should have been, after 2 losing seasons and maybe a third because of a bad defense. Chap is doing so much better than I give him credit for…I hope this great season by him and the offense is not wasted. Also, it has become clear to me that you will defend Lynch in any situation no matter what the circumstance…how come? I ask this with no disrespect at all. I am curious because it is so against the grain. Kind of like 4G with bball.

  21. KevinK, one of the underlying reasons I am struggling right now and posting so much is this: football is so much about confidence and swagger and this staff has a tough time keeping the team up anyway(just my opinion). After losing close to UM and possibly getting beaten badly at OSU…coming back to play a hard-nose southern team like Ark St will be tough. Where will the boys gain their confidence the rest of the way? There are NO cupcakes left. It is up to the boys and coaches to stay focused and confident and that scares me. Thanks and take care.

  22. Defend? I simply see the process in place and positives signs from it that have and are taking place and state them. the IU FB program is no little project to turn around. I look for the same process and signs as I do in my business role having a company ask me to come and evaluate one of their managers. UofM won the game, but I am sure RR is more than a little upset with his D. Also does anybody remember George and Palcic were co-D coordinators for Hep.

  23. J Pat, why do you say “and this staff has a tough time keeping the team up anyway.” That makes it sound as if IU’s FB team has a chronic problem with moral. Why should they be down? O.K., they lost a tough one against Michigan, no surprise there, no one really expected them to win the game, not really. Half the team played well and they were not embarrassed on National T.V. like two years ago against Purdue. They’re 3 – 1 and they played as if they believed they could beat Michigan, so I see no evidence of them being down.

    If you were implying that the players read these comment boards, I don’t think you have to worry about that. One, they don’t read them and two, they don’t care what we say. They’re too busy and too tired. If they still have a winning record after the next two games, there moral will still be high. With IU football, it’s all relative.

  24. pod, for me it is the little things. I was fortunate enough to talk to several IU players about 2 years ago on the differences in Hep and Lynch. Another guy sat by me in the stands that played at Ball St and we talked for 2 years about the 2 coaches. I also listened to an interview on 1070 The Fan with an ex IU football player that played under both coaches. I then look at the team on the sideline as I sat 1st and 2nd row behind them for many years, still do. It is easy to tell from the stands if a team is up or down when they are 15 to 30 feet from you. I look at second half performance, especially 3rd quarter. The number of 208-75 being outscored in the 2nd half a couple years back still gets me…I still remember those numbers. I based my opinion on that stuff.

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