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Towson Indiana Football

Tyler Replogle runs with the ball during the season opener against Towson. Chris Howell | Herald-Times

STARTING FIVE

1. IT’S INDIANA

A.J. Moye is in good spirits and not showing any longterm effects of the stroke he suffered this week, I wrote.

So far, Jeremiah Rivers has accepted his role and done the little thing to help the team win, the IDS’ Greg Rosenstein writes.

A former Hoosier, Rod Wilmont, continues to play in Fort Wayne and try to make it to the NBA, the Fort Wayne News-Sentinel’s Reggie Hayes writes.

Women’s basketball coach Felisha Legette-Jack called out the fans a little bit after Thursday’s loss to Memphis, upset over a generously announced crowd of 1,404, Jeremy writes.

“If you have just a glimmer of passion for our program, come out and support these young ladies,” she said. “It’s is a difference-maker. You guys were unbelievable when we played against Ohio State, and we played against Purdue. We need you guys all the time.

“Yes, we made mistakes. Yes, we made errant passes. (But) they are playing hard for the state of Indiana, they’re playing hard for Indiana University, they’re playing hard for Indiana athletics. The least we can do is get out there and support (them).”

2. ON THE WAY TO D.C.

Tyler Replogle had to stand and watch Saturday’s 83-20 loss, but he’s determined to not let his final two games as a Hoosier go down without a fight, Andy writes.

The IDS’ Justin Albers pokes a hole in the “next man up” philosophy by noting the reliance on blaming Ben Chappell’s absence for what happened Saturday.

3. BIG TEN BASKETBALL

Texas beat Illinois in overtime the same way teams beat the Illini last year: beat them up and they will not fight back, the Champaign News-Gazette’s Paul Klee writes.

Ralph Sampson scored 22 points and had eight rebounds for Minnesota in a win against Western Kentucky, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune’s Myron P. Medcalf writes. The Gophers play North Carolina today. Michigan’s Darius Morris had a career night as the Wolverines beat Bowling Green, AnnArbor.com’s Michael Rothstein writes.

Post play will be key for Penn State as it plays Fairfield tonight, the Daily Collegian’s Alex Angert writes. Matt Gatens should be on the floor for Iowa tonight as it plays Xavier, the Des Moines Register’s Rick Brown writes.

Michigan State’s Derrick Nix is not going to Hawaii with his teammates, staying behind instead to work on some personal issues, the Lansing State Journal’s Joe Rexrode writes.

4. BIG TEN FOOTBALL

Penn State and Indiana are programs in reverse of one another, the Harrisburg Patriot-News’ David Jones writes.

Ohio State’s improving offensive line must go up against Iowa’s front four, the best in the country, the Columbus Dispatch’s Tim May writes. For Iowa, defeating Ohio State would help to save an otherwise disappointing season, the Iowa City Press-Citizen’s Andy Hamilton writes.

With a little luck, this could be Wisconsin’s best season of football, Madison.com’s Adam Mertz writes. Michigan’s Cam Gordon has settled into a hybrid position on the team’s defense, AnnArbor.com’s Jeff Arnold writes.

With Northwestern and Illinois playing at Wrigley Field, Chicago should go ahead and embrace college football, the Chicago Tribune’s Dan McNeil writes.

Is Greg Jones the best linebacker Michigan State has ever had, the Lansing State Journal staff wonders. At Purdue, the focus is on eliminating turnovers, the Lafayette Journal & Courier’s Mike Carmin writes.

5. ONE FOR THE ROAD

Beatles’ “Get Back.”

35 comments

  1. Don’t know if any of the football team reads comments here, just wanted to say, hang in guys. Regardless of the score from any game as a IU Alum I’m proud of the how you have given the many hours and the effort put into the program!

  2. Staggering to see that Penn State cleared $50+ million in football revenue while IU made $600K. This article is the perfect argument for why we need to make football a competitive program at IU.

  3. BP, see the PSU “reverse programs” article.

    More proof IU investing in a higher caliber head coach will pay off down the road. This is not a $600k problem or a $3 million problem, it’s a $50 million problem if you don’t have a serious commitment to a new head coach.

  4. It’s interesting in the ‘budget’ article that Glass is hesitant to fire Lynch because we can’t afford to eat a year of contract and sign a (hopefully) higher-priced replacement. So, Fred’s solution: send poor hapless Lynch into a money-making slaughter against Penn State in DC so that we can afford to fire him. Cold.

  5. According to Jody Demling from the Courier Journal Davis has committed to purdue.Does anyone know if this is true ? It is either Raphael Davis or Devin Davis.Not clear which one

  6. No offense, but save the sympathy kurk. You think our odds would be dramatically improved if the game were in Bloomington? Not to mention, he’s a big boy getting paid a lot of money (granted not in comparison to his peers, but nonetheless). Sometimes life is hard. If many people in the professional world performed as Lynch has, they would be fired without a generous golden parachute.

    I like that Glass thinks outside the box. Obviously, repeating what has been done for a century-plus in regards to football at IU has not worked. And if that money from the PSU game really is specifically to find a new coach, I’d say that’s pretty good planning. Glass’s job is to oversee athletics and try to improve football, not to be concerned with coach’s feelings.

  7. lynch HAS to be fired or a new contract given. no recruit will commit to a coach on the final year of a contract. that would set the football program back several more years. for all intents and purposes, by allowing lynch to coach up to the final year IS honoring the full contract. that’s as good as it gets in major college football and basketball, folks.

    seeing the recruiting class lavin put together at st. john’s, i put in a vote for steve mariucci. the power of television and nfl resume will be great in his recruiting efforts. his upbeat style is well suited for college.

  8. dwayne,
    My guess would be a verbal to IU.
    It will be nice to only have to focus on Gary Harris and the 2013 class from here on out.

  9. What folks have to realize is that there are some built-in “structural” issues with IU football, starting with a Stadium that holds less than half the fans of the bigger stadiums in the conference, a smaller state for recruiting football players, IU’s focus on basketball and soccer, and the football program’s lack of tradition. Those are VERY dificult to overcome.

    The smaller stadium is the major limiting factor. Even if we had the national champion football team and Ohio State, Penn State and Michigan all had losing seasons, we would not generate the revenue from football that they would generate.

    That extra money allows them to pay coaches more, have bigger recruiting budgets, etc. It is a HUGE competitive advantage for them and disadvantage for us.

  10. Wisco, I didn’t mean to sound like I was feeling sorry for Lynch. Just that sometimes business decisions need to be made and if you’re the employee not performing it can be a cold world. Like Nick Lowe says, ‘you gotta be cruel to be kind.’ And you’re right about the game results: an upset in either stadium is equally unlikely, but the possibility of embarrassment is higher in front of 70,000 hostiles rather than 30,000 who are just waiting for tomorrow night’s basketball game.

  11. West Coast- One word: Northwestern. Their “stadium” is falling apart, and yet they continue to win and build their program.

    Our stadium, on the other hand, just got a nice upgrade and is plenty big enough to sustain a successful, middle-of-the-pack Big 10 program. Packing in 50,000+ a game would be a huge boost over what we do now.

    Sorry if I am sounding harsh here, but I really cringe when I hear people talk about “structural” issues preventing us from having a competitive program. It is such victimist B.S. Our university is in the Big 10, the student body is 40,000 strong, we have a vast and passionate alumni base, and one of America’s most beautiful campuses. There is no reason, other than lack of effort, why we shouldn’t be able to turn the program around.

  12. Nov. 24 is Park Tudor’s first game of the season. I’m sure that is what Yogi is tweeting about.

  13. IU’s new fotball coach’s motto. IT’S TIME !
    Well, at least it’s mine. Or maybe you could use, IT’S INDIANA AND IT’S TIME !

  14. Good news on Yogi. This coach can flat-out recruit. He pretty much owns the state of Indiana now.

    Off Topic: has anyone seen the bit about only 1 end zone being used in tomorrow’s game at Wrigley between NW and Illinois? Unbelievable.

  15. Husky,

    Isn’t that basically what IU did for Wisconsin last week? I’m suprised Wisconsin didn’t have to replace the turf and some scoreboard light bulbs on one end after 83-20.

    I’m fully prepared to watch IU football put up a good fight this weekend and lose again in miserable fashion. Indiana, we know you’ll lose…

  16. Husky Tom as usual is spot on ….I lived in Chicago and went all the IU games at that dreadful DYKE Stadium …presumably named after some lesbian …the weather can be and most times was WAY worse than beautiful Bloomington ….there is NO parking and very limited tailgating …and I know of one IU game there where about 15,000 fans were there …in a city of 9 MILLION …yet with all that Gary Barnett got them winning and then they had a tragic coachs death just like IU did with their next coach …then quickly put a fiery novice Pat Fitzgerald at the helm ….and they go to bowl games every FRICKIN’ year ….and they take about 1,000 fans to the FRICKIN’ bowl game whereas I was at the last bowl game IU went to in 17 years …IU doubled Ok State fans with close to 20,000 FRICKIN’ fans …many traveling across the country to Phoenix …. So everyone needs to shut their mouths than Indiana should not and can not have a FRICKIN’ decent football team on a regular basis … I only have the possibility of faith in ONE person at this point …Fred Glass …he has brought a completely new twist to the ridiculous situation that has been Indiana football ….and I have to hope and believe that he is not EVEN done yet …I’m glad he sold the game for $ 3 million …Drastic problems call for drastic measures …and the 83 -20 humiliation has brought the most attention to Indiana football since Heps death …I have gotten more calls and texts than ever due to that score and game ….I believe Lynch is gone…come on people in the grand scheme of things $ 250 K is chump change these days …. Glass has a plan …I just feel it in my 30 year Hoosier football fan blood … Let’s stay strong and keep voicing our displeasure until Hoosier football is at least back to the Mallory days when I got to go to some great Bowl games …and lastly …my FAVORITE game ever …when it was pouring in a sold out Memorial Stadium in 1987 against Michigan where Bo Schembechler got so angry and complained because his team couldn’t hear in the 4th quarter ….Why ..because the Hoosier football nation was so loud that day …We will be once again !!

  17. Wynn- thanks for the props. In fairness, however, I got that insight from JPat. Just giving credit where it is due.

    Also, I believe it is “Dyche” stadium…the lesbian comment was a little out of line, since the term is derogatory in most cases, unless a lesbian is using it…

  18. I agree that IU football should be more competitive and that the status quo is not acceptable. While the current coaching regime has made some progress, continued investment in this group is not warranted. The only issue I have with replacing Coach Lynch is that we not get into a Kevin Sampson situation and wind up on probation or see our athletes’ pictures on police blotters. Apart from that, we need to find and pay the best coach available to turn this program around. I believe that IU needs to honor the financial commitment to Coach Lynch and recognize him for his loyal, unselfish and classy service to IU. The search should begin immediately and should not be conditioned on the outcome of the balance of this season.

  19. Have company this weekend really busy but wanted to respond to Husky T. NW after the trip last year is my favorite team to root for after IU. The campus right on the water is gorgeous! The people are amazing and friendly. The Goose Island food and beer had me hooked. I just cannot get out of my mind how awful their stadium was. Honestly, I don’t think one dollar had been put into it in 20-30 years. The carnival type food at the stadium rocked, elepahnt ears and funnel cakes. I have liked Pat F since he played ball and respect that he plans on staying there. I have said on here before that if NW can get kids to play in that environment, IU with what they have now can do the same. Lastly, I talked to an old man that was a prof at NW and was retired. He made the commnent that all Big U’s say they have student-athletes but really all they cared about was the athlete part and winning but at NW…they truly recruit the student first and then the athlete. He shot me some stats on what these kids who play sports as NW made on SAT’s and I almost fell down. Again, if NW can win, IU can win in football for sure. Later guys!

  20. Would Mariucci(sp) come here? Maybe, with the Crean/Izzo connection and the Izzo/Mariucci connection. What does he have to lose. He does not need the money. Overall, doubtful.
    Does Mike Leach really have too much baggage? Seems like that situation is a he said, she said thing. Also sounds like he pissed off some people in Texas where someone mentioned we need to recruit. Leach can definately run an offense.
    I am just mentioning these names because a few people have referred to them. Has anyone out of all you researchers found or thought of anyone else?

  21. I think Mariucci is an intriguing idea. When Sampson was fired I thought Mike Montgomery would be a solid replacement, and somehow I see Mariucci as the football version of Montgomery: Bay Area connections, experience in the pros, well-known name. However, he would be expensive, as his name was mentioned for the USC job and he probably thinks of himself as a high-profile candidate. Still, would be an “eyebrow raiser” of a hire, in the sense that everyone would be suddenly curious about Indiana.

  22. He would cost a lot but he has a lot of connections. For the price he commands he would have to win or his trademark would be worthless afterward. Interesting idea.

  23. Husky Tom …I am able to throw the lesbian term out there relating to Dych Stadium in Evanston….why is that you may ask …because I am gay !! Scandulous as it may seem …there are thousands of us gay men and women that are Hoosier football fans …according to recently released government statistics …about 11.3 % of the population …honestly, I could care less …the bottom line here ….Indiana University deserves a decent and competitive football program ….Indiana …We’re all for you …IU !!

  24. Some misconceptions in the financial data about PN St and IU: PSU averages $3-4,000,000/game in football revenue; IU averages $6-700,000/game; the difference is (using the low range for both) $2.4 million/game X 6 home games = $14,4 million in revenue/year. These are NOT net figures. The costs for home games need to be deducted, traffic police, attendants, clean up crews, maintenance type stadium repairs, etc. So a guesstimate might be a $12-10 million advantage for PN St each year, from football. So this is NOT a $50 million question, but it is a $10 million question, which is not chump change.

  25. For all sports in 2009-10 (June 30 ending fiscal year) IU total revenues $68,769,582, total expenses $61,746,969 = net profit from athletics $7,022,613; PN St, $106,614,724, $80,260,637 = $26,354,093. If only $10-12 million of this comes from football games, where does the rest ($19,331,480) come from? Probably alumni donations, licensing revenue, radio networks, etc. As another example, MSU $80,064,147, $61,586,947 = $18,478,800.

  26. West Coast- One word: Northwestern. Their “stadium” is falling apart, and yet they continue to win and build their program.

    One of the premium cities in the country..A beautiful campus setting on the shores of Lake Michigan..”Amazing and friendly” people that have a down-to-earth ease and genuineness about them. The city of big shoulders…Great restaurants at every corner..Fantastic array of entertainment and nightlife choices..Professional sports teams abound with unbelievable tradition (Wrigley is 10 minutes south from Northwestern’s campus). Full access to an employment market with internship choices and post-degree/education opportunities like no other place in the Midwest. But what does it all mean when that darn stadium is falling apart? So terrible it must be for those football players on full scholarship to be forced to play in that dilapidated 50-year-old high school stadium. The misery of it all. The misery of Northwestern.

  27. Please, stop with the “built in structural issues” nonsense. IU needs a new coach. Period. Competent and passionate leadership will go a long way to solving IU’s football issues.

    I was in Boise this week on business. I spoke at length with a long time Boise State booster. This man, in his sixties, told me that back in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s, The University of Idaho beat Boise State something like 13 years in a row and that BSU was one of the worst college football teams in the U.S. I asked him, “how did it get turned around?” His answer, without any hesitation was, “We got some good coaches, and as they began to win, the community and the school invested to build on their success. BNow we’re a national power!”

    And how many people live in Idaho? There are a lot fewer people living in Idaho than are living in Indiana, so stop with the low population argument. All good football schools recruit nationally.

    Do we forget that Hep was in the process of doing exactly that when he died? That was Hep’s team that played in the last bowl game. Does anyone really believe that IU football would be in the shambles it is right now if Hep was still the coach? IU might not be competing for the Big Ten championship, but we’d have won a couple Big Ten games and be bowl bound right now if Hep was still the coach.

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