Crean on Jordan Hulls

Indiana’s Jordan Hulls is fouled by Ohio State’s David Lighty during Friday’s Big Ten game. Chris Howell | Herald-Times

Jordan Hulls scored 10 points in the first half Friday, on 4-of-7 shooting.

In the second half, he shot the ball only twice and spent most of his time on the floor setting screens and facilitating for his teammates.

Given that Hulls came into Friday a 54.8 percent 3-point shooter and that the long ball is the easiest way to cut into a 13-point halftime deficit, I asked Indiana coach Tom Crean why Hulls only shot the ball twice (making one, and the other probably going in if Victor Oladipo does not try to tap it).

What followed was a lengthy answer that would be a disservice to Crean to break up. So here it is, in its entirety:

“I don’t think it was anything they did. I think he facilitated a lot. We need Jordan to be aggressive. We need him on the court. I don’t think they took him away, I think he came off pick-and-roll.

“The one thing he had to do was we put him in our five-spot in our basic offense because that’s just the way it was. He’s the one guy who knows that position when we didn’t have a five-spot player in there. If you look at this, and if you look at the film I think you’ll see this, him being on the floor, even though he wasn’t shooting, we were really getting some great looks at the basket when he was on the court.

“He went to more of a screening situation, where he was getting people open. And, in turn, that frees him up on reversals, and then he kept swinging the ball. He knows that he needs to continue to be aggressive on offense for us to be good. But we had to go kitchen sink for a while there tonight and our main offense, which has got the court spread and there’s a lot of cutting and movement in it, he’s the best guy to put in the high post because people are going to get free. He’s always got a green light, there’s no question about that.

“If you look at the offense, you’ll see that it wasn’t like that all the time. There were some other times when we were running screen-and-rolls. You have to understand the concept of the offense. When we’re running and we’re spacing the floor, its five guys. But somebody has to create the movement with screening in that area. We put him in that spot sometimes so he can get open jump shots because of that. What he does is that he was freeing up people more for baskets. He just became more of a facilitator. It wasn’t by design, it was by necessity. It’s not like we don’t want him to score, and its not like he’s not looking for his shot. Its just the way that it is.

“One reason I don’t like him being the point guard all the time, per se, is that he does facilitate too much. Thats his personality. We need him to continue to get looks and shots, so we move him around because the one they know is that they know he can shoot it too and the more we can get him moved around in the game the more of a chance he’s got to make those plays.”

26 comments

  1. YOU don’t understand ergo HE is a moron. So, if I couldn’t teach you calculus, that would all be on me. Got it.

  2. to start with, osu could have won that game by 35 if they wanted to. they coasted and matta said as much.

    this game proves much of what i’ve been saying all season. when one of the ht reporters did an early season piece on oladipo, he said he wouldn’t be our leading rebounder. well, i think we’re starting to see he IS our best rebounder.

    watford will not be a post presense on either end of the court this season. he will be outplayed by most bigs in the big 10. his biggest value right now is his 3 pt shooting. he’ll get better the next 2 years.

    creek needs me to fix his shot. obviously crean can’t or won’t do it. 2 airballs last night? the only one he made was because no defender came out to challenge his shot. can’t get away with that low release point in the big 10. he has to rush the shot and doesn’t have time to gather himself before shooting, which is critical to proper rythm. don’t expect any improvement here. it has absolutely zero to do with his knee.

    crean has to get jones off the point. if you can’t dribble with your head up in traffic, you can’t play the point. period. more turnovers than poppinfresh. hulls is developing nicely and we’re going to be thrilled with his next 2 seasons. he’s the point, and his back up minutes should be going to dinty moore. i know everyone says he’s a liability on d but i say not so much.

    yes, you can shoot over him. but we have a lot of terrible defenders. he’ll get more steals than creek or jones (should be taking some of their minutes) and is better on helping down in the post. he’s our best offensive transistion player bar none. pushes the ball very fast. understands the game. has some upside but needs to play and should get 15 minutes per game.

    as i said before, oladipo and hulls are our best. going to be fun watching them in the future. sheehy is a keeper. give him minutes. pritchard is through. capo, not looking good.

  3. I’m not sure how you can say Creek’s knee has nothing to do with his shooting. Until he gets some lift in his legs back, he will continue to struggle. He is forcing the shot too much due to that fact. No question Hulls & Oladipo are the best & most consistent we have on the team. Nobody has a higher basketball IQ than Hulls. Oladipo is close & his athleticism makes up the difference. You’re right about Watford, he won’t be a post presence because he is not a post player. He & Elston are both better facing the basket. We have no true post player, that can compete game after game in the B10. I wouldn’t have a problem at all with Moore playing more minutes, depending on who he’s on the floor with. I love the energy & defense he brings, & he has alot of court awareness as well. Until we get more players that can compliment Hulls, Watford, Oladipo, & a few others, so they can get the most out of their game, well, we are who we are.

  4. er and Get Real…..I think Crean must be the smart one . He is the one earning 2.3 million …..how much do you two idiots make ? LOL !

  5. I’m sure CTC makes plenty of money, but writers should not quote him verbatim. I’ve got three degrees (and took a lot of calculus as well, not that it helps here), but it makes my head hurt to try to figure out what the man is trying to say. His statement is disjointed and confusing. Hopefully he explains defensive concepts to the players with more clarity.

  6. yes, he makes the money but he is driving more long time fans away from the program than Davis and Sampson combined. He’s by far the worst coach of the 3 and certainly the worst coach in the Big 10. Clap,clap

  7. This team has a top 5 recruiting class on the floor as Sophs and can’t beat PSU??? starting to question CTC’s coaching abilities. Tired of seeinf Verdell Jones make the same mistakes and CTC clap his hands and say its OK. Creek needs to stop shooting before he breaks a rim off and hurts someone. This team needs a good ole fashion boot in the but!!! Hulls and Olapido are the only ones hustling at all. sit the rest down.

  8. bcr,

    ok, next year creek will be healthy, right? mark my words: if he still has the same low release, we’ll see the same lousy 3 point shooting against big 10 level competition. i’m a professional and i know what i’m looking at. don’t try this at home.

  9. coachv-

    Show me a post from last year when you were bitching about Creek’s form(pre-injury) while he was leading the conference in scoring and on pace to likely becoming Big 10 Freshman of the Year. The kid is weak in the legs. He can’t elevate. Much of shooting the ball is waist down. A breaking of the wrist timed with appropriate balance and a comfortable rhythm from hips, through the knees, to the balls of the feet is essential. When sharpshooters begin to miss it’s usually due to tired legs(nothing to do with point of release or tired arms). Creek’s confidence will come back when/if he gets stronger and more self-assured in his legs. If you can’t see it, then you’re more a blind fool than a crappy coach.
    Can I make a suggestion? Maybe have someone nearly as arrogant as yourself to whack you in the kneecap of your choice a couple dozen times with a lead pipe until it shatters..I’m sure you could find a few highly qualified volunteers from this thread to perform the scientific basketball experiment to exacting specifications to replicate the insignificance of what you claim Creek is going through and how it has simply nothing to do with his inconsistency and disgusting form. On your road to recovery, I would strongly suggest you have doug find a miracle worker much more qualified than Tom Crean to whip you back into shape.

  10. how am i supposed to show a post from last year? as i’ve said many times, what creek did last year was against inferior competition. can’t youz guys read? i;m not going to argue with people who aren’t qualified to diagnose the game. you know the old saying: you can lead a horse’s ass to water but you can’t make him think.

  11. Wow, what makes you the expert? Pretty arrogant statement to think you’re the only one “qualified” to state your opinion. I’m not really sure why I’m even wasting my time on someone like you. You’re right, Creek has 31pts against UK, but they were definitely one of the worst teams in the country last year, right?

  12. The reality is that COACH Crean is here for at least five years. To question his coaching ability now is fine But you have to remember the program was in shambles when he got here.Like it or not (and I don’t)we will have to live with his coaching style for a while. I would play a freshman or a walk on before I would tolerate some of the bonehead mistakes that some of of these players make repeatedly.We can hold COACH Crean’s feet to the fire without being disrespectful.

  13. As for Creek’s shot, I kind of agree with both of the first two commenters who talked about it.

    Watching him shoot, you can tell by the speed and form of the release which shots have a chance to go in, and which will be nowhere close. I agree that his release is way more inconsistent, and he tends to rush it, even when he has more time to shoot.

    But, in my mind, his lack of consistency in form probably does have to do with the layoff from the knee injury. Hopefully he gets everything back to normal.

  14. To all (CV) who think Creek has a low release and needs his shot corrected…it is time for me to put that crap to rest. I think it is sad that one person beats up a kid who is coming back from a shattered knee cap and struggling. Let’s talk about stats from last year:

    Creek scored 31 points vs UK last year and was the TOP scoring freshman in the nation at 17 points through the first nine games last year…was his release/form bad then?

    Creek avg over 16 points a game last year leading the team…was his form/release bad then?

    Here is the most telling thing:

    Creek shot .448 last year from three point range…was his form/release bad the?

    This year he is shooting .311 from three point range vs BAD competition so that is no agrument!

    Creek had NO problem last year…should I say it again???

    The drop off in his shot is not due to bad shooting form, it is due to getting back from his injury. The proof is in the stats, period! You cannot argue this in any way, shape, or form any longer. I wish I would have done this long ago.

    CoachV, sounds to me like you were not a very good coach, well at least not as good as you think you were. Coaches like you are the reason I am working with my kids and coaching my own kids. Coaches like you almost scare me to put my kids into someone elses care within the wonderful world of sports. You are wrong in your assessment and are too ego driven to admit it! The disrepect in your previous posts show me who you are and that is all I need to know. I put NO stock in anything you write.

  15. Say it again J Pat, I like it. These self-anointed experts basting themselves with their own juices have either crumpled under responsibility and call it experience or will soon do so when given the challenge. I, as you, would not want my children or for that matter any children I know to be influenced by such an egotistical personality. These types think they can make rivers run backward, actually are unable to wet paper.

    Happy 2011!

  16. Yeah, maybe if we change our names to coachbcr, coach J Pat, etc… then we can be “professionals” and experts as well! These are some of the same people that say Coach Crean has too much of an ego. Wow!

  17. I am not and never have claimed to be a high school or college basketball coach; however I just know what I see. I went to both the b10 games last week; and some things really p—- me off. Specifically the buckeye’s shot at least 10 3-pt field goals without any hand in the face during our “zone” defense; I don’t care if you are playing a DI/II/III basketball game – that just cannot and should not happen. I also noticed that specifically on one of our turn-overs; Maurice Creek was standing about at half court in the first half – and received a pass and just dropped it out of bounds. That is just not acceptable and lack of attention to detail. Things like that should not be tolerated. Also – Verdell Jones although can score for us – also turns-it over too much.

    Even though we say they are “young” and we are rebuilding from the shambles of the program – lazy things like these should be corrected or the young men (yes – young men receiving a full scholarship at a big time program) should sit – period.

  18. WHAT???? Free association mania? LOL Honestly, I had learned academic friend WHO LIVES AND EATS BASKETBALL read this quote…TWICE. Nonsensical at best. I’m certain he was just tired, but! This has been added to my “UNQUOTABLE QUOTES” file I have kept for 35 years.

    “I don’t think it was anything they did. I think he facilitated a lot. We need Jordan to be aggressive. We need him on the court. I don’t think they took him away, I think he came off pick-and-roll.

    “The one thing he had to do was we put him in our five-spot in our basic offense because that’s just the way it was. He’s the one guy who knows that position when we didn’t have a five-spot player in there. If you look at this, and if you look at the film I think you’ll see this, him being on the floor, even though he wasn’t shooting, we were really getting some great looks at the basket when he was on the court.

    “He went to more of a screening situation, where he was getting people open. And, in turn, that frees him up on reversals, and then he kept swinging the ball. He knows that he needs to continue to be aggressive on offense for us to be good. But we had to go kitchen sink for a while there tonight and our main offense, which has got the court spread and there’s a lot of cutting and movement in it, he’s the best guy to put in the high post because people are going to get free. He’s always got a green light, there’s no question about that.

    “If you look at the offense, you’ll see that it wasn’t like that all the time. There were some other times when we were running screen-and-rolls. You have to understand the concept of the offense. When we’re running and we’re spacing the floor, its five guys. But somebody has to create the movement with screening in that area. We put him in that spot sometimes so he can get open jump shots because of that. What he does is that he was freeing up people more for baskets. He just became more of a facilitator. It wasn’t by design, it was by necessity. It’s not like we don’t want him to score, and its not like he’s not looking for his shot. Its just the way that it is.

    “One reason I don’t like him being the point guard all the time, per se, is that he does facilitate too much. Thats his personality. We need him to continue to get looks and shots, so we move him around because the one they know is that they know he can shoot it too and the more we can get him moved around in the game the more of a chance he’s got to make those plays.”

  19. Guys – Hang in there and keep the faith. The Dynamic one has a 5 year plan. What you need to understand is that is always a 5 year plan. Help is right around the corner. We will be better 5 years from now, or is that 5 years from next year?

    Anyhow – that is not important – the Dynamic one will take care of us and that is all we need to know.

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