Report: Ohio lineman Alex Todd commits to Indiana

It appears that Indiana has picked up its first verbal commitment in the class of 2012.

Alex Todd, a lineman from Streetsboro, Ohio, committed to Indiana today, Rivals.com is reporting (subscription required).

Todd, who is 6-foot-4 and 290 pounds, had offers from Bowling Green, Miami (Ohio) and Kent State. Boston College and Connecticut were among the schools also recruiting Todd.

9:56 P.M. UPDATE: Just talked to Todd. Here’s what I got:

For Alex Todd, the third visit to Bloomington was enough to go ahead and pull the trigger.

The defensive lineman from Streetsboro, Ohio verbally committed to Indiana on Sunday, following a weekend visit.

“I just fell in love with the place,” Todd said. “From the coaches to the campus to everything.

“… It’s a beautiful campus and the atmosphere there is just a college town. I loved that.”

Todd, a 6-foot-4, 290-pound rising senior, is Indiana’s first verbal commitment in the class of 2012.

He chose Indiana over Miami (Ohio), though he had eight scholarship offers (generally from Mid-American Conference schools). Boston College and Connecticut were among the BCS programs expressing an interest.

Indiana first contacted Todd even before the class of 2011 was signed, with a coach arriving at Streetsboro High School right after New Year’s.
Only problem was that Todd was not there — he was in Texas for the U.S. Army All-American Combine.

But he quickly developed a relationship with Indiana’s first-year coaching staff and said he was impressed with their credentials.

“They know what they’re doing,” Todd said. “They’ve all had success and I just really think they’re going to turn IU around and turn them into a really strong football team that can compete over the next couple of years for a Big Ten championship.”

Todd was a two-way lineman, playing defensive tackle and offensive guard, as a junior. He was named first-team All-County Division, as well as to the Division III All-Ohio third team.

But Indiana sees his future on the defensive side of the ball, using his strength (he lifts 405 pounds and squats 450) and a quick first step to penetrate the pocket.

To that end, he was paired with redshirt junior Nick Sliger for an overnight visit.

The coaching staff told Todd to be prepared to play immediately.

“But most likely I am thinking I’ll be redshirted my true freshman year and then have four years,” Todd said.

Here’s a highlight video.

31 comments

  1. Mr. Todd seems to have the size and the strength necessary to compete in the Big Ten. He sounds like a bight and articulate young man. It’s great that he wants to be at IU and appreciates the campus (who wouldn’t) and the new coaching staff. I hope he has a great senior season and stays healthy. But it’s a bit disconcerting that no other Big Ten schools had made Mr. Todd an offer. Is he a sleeper? Did IU just recognize him much earlier than other Big Ten schools? Are other Big Ten schools waiting to poach him before the signing day?

    This verbal cimmittment seems like a positive, but IU won’t get to where it wants/needs to be by continueing to sign players being recruited by Miami of Ohio and other MAC schools. Wilson needs to show that he can sign players being recruited by other Big Ten or other major conference schools.

    I trust Wilson and staff to recruit better players than his predecessor. I trust Wilson and staff will do a better job developing the talent they sign (the conditioning program seems to be much improved), but I think most IU FB fans expect to see Wilson’s staff sign a greater number of highly ranked HS prospects. By doing so, Wilson can begin to build the “buzz” and momentum IU football needs.

    Let’s hope that Mr. Todd’s verbal committment is the beginning of IU’s best recruiting class in decades.

  2. Great to have that first commitment. He does seem to be very strong, quick and locks into his block very well.

    I think we have to have solid trust in this staff to evaluate and bring in solid player/students who have the basic elements. The coaching will take over from there, the whole point being that a coach like Wilson who spent most of his career developing natural qualities and skills into championship material as he and his staff members have at schools like Miami, Northwestern and Oklahoma has done exactly that.

    No offense intended in this next statement (I usually take Podunker’s thoughts seriously), however the comment is directed at the permanently present issue of ‘recruiting those others schools want/do not pursue). Whether other Big Ten schools have or have not recruited a particular player I think is really an irrelevant issue. That’s more of a media/pr issue and not so relevant to the prediction of future success. Recognizing the talent and having the ability to teach/coach and develop it is. We may as well trust Coach Wilson and staff, we sure as h**l have no reason to trust our ability and comment on what may/may not be “Big Ten caliber”.

    For once, let’s set out with confidence and trust OUR coaches.

  3. Even though he doesn’t have what you would call an impressive offer list, I think we probably got a solid recruit if the other players offered are any indication.

    According to rivals, IU has offered 147 players, and I found only 4 besides Todd that have IU as their only BCS offer. Plus Todd was the only lineman without a BCS offer (the 4 others are all DBs). Probably near 100 have multiple BCS offers. It appears as though IU is being very deliberate with their offers so far.

  4. pb, that’s good information, and its reassuring. Thanks. Given IU’s recent recruiting history, it’s ironic that the first young man to verbal, out of 147 players that have received an offer for 2012, would be one of five recruits without any other BCS offers.

    I’m impressed with Wilson and staff so far and optimisitic about IU FB’s future for the first time since Hep was named as IU’s new coach. I believe Wilson will be a more effective recruiter and a better developer of talent as compared to IU’s previous coaching staff. Not to be mean, but that’s not saying much. I guess my love for and loyalty to IU elevates my expectations, even in the face of its football history (I’m also a Cubs fan).

    Since I have some direct experience (many years ago) in these matters, I know obtaining commitments from highly rated HS players is important, for two reasons: 1) it builds enthusiasm and optimism for the program (buzz)in the media and then amongst the fans, and 2)obtaining highly rated players makes it easier to sign other highly rated players. Using basketball to make my point, no doubt that Zeller’s committment contributed to Crean signing other highly talented recruits.

    I know it takes time. I know there are no shortcuts. I know tradition and demographics has a lot to do with success in FB recruiting. But I also know it can be done. And I believe IU has everything to offer accept a winning tradition(in FB). I’ve seen other, lessor schools turn their perpetually under-achieving football programs into competitive and winning programs. If those schools can do it, I know the Hoosier can too.

    The games are won on the field, but recruting news is the early indicator of what’s to come.

  5. “…but I think most IU FB fans expect to see Wilson’s staff sign a greater number of highly ranked HS prospects.”

    And why should IU FB fans expect that to happen? Seriously what has Wilson done as a head coach to warrant highly rated recruits to want to play for him? Yes he was part of a winning program at Oklahoma, but correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Bob Stoops was and is still running the show down there in Norman. Wilson was just an assistant who benefitted from his association with a highly successful program and head coach. He was recruiting 4/5 star recruits because he was at OU. That’s not going to change for any of the Sooner assistants.

    Now that he has left OU all that has changed. He no longer has the benefit of being able to sell a recruit on playing for one of the winningest programs in NCAA history as well as one who routinely will challenge for a BCS championship. Four and five star recruits aren’t looking to help build a program, they want typically want to attend an established winning program that will provide them with greater exposure, excellent coaching, all the while playing on a winning team.

    IU fans are delusional if they believe that Wilson alone was responsible for OU signing all those highly rated recruits. If he himself believes that then he is in for a rude awakening. All those doors that were once opened for him because he wore a shirt that had OU stenciled on it, will now be slammed in his face because he is now at one of the historically worst BCS programs, IU.

  6. The MAC is Champs of what? They certainly are the champion fodder for the B10 and have been for decades.
    As I look through the recruiting list of prospects IU is offering(as pb alludes to)I see schools from states IU has never spent much time before(so much for the slammed doors concept micchumpy). If Coach Wilson learned one thing from Randy Walker and Bob Stoops it is to surround yourself with qualified people, give them a goal and let them do their jobs.

  7. What I see as a positive is that Coach Wilson is following his own formula for recruiting and for getting the raw material to “build” his own players. Generally, while some of his prospective players are on lists of players sought after by other major schools, some are not. He appears to be following what he considers the criteria for successful players. And, that is just fine. That’s why he stood out from all other candidates.

    I disagree completely with MACChamps’ view of his path. Coach Wilson has been a highly visible and very respected top, honors winning assistant coach at one of the best programs in the country, successful wherever he has been- all admired football programs, beginning with Miami of Ohio (The Cradle of Coaches beginning with Coaches Woody Hayes, Ara Parseghian, all the way through John Pont, Bo Schembechler, Bill Mallory and Hep). The only legitimately successful coaches in modern IU football history have been Pont, Mallory and until his tragic death, Hep. (Had Greenspan not screwed up badly and unprofessionally- as with everything he touched while at West Point or IU- to hire his buddy we may still be riding the wave of the proud Mallory years. (Thank goodness his son now found his way back to Bloomington and the family is again a key part of our future).

    After Miami, Coach Wilson went on to establish a national reputation as a key coaching assistant and strategist part of the staff that brought Northwestern back to national prominence; and topped it off with a truly national elite program and school at Oklahoma under Coach Stoops.What I like about this is that the career is solid, has always been challenging, carefully constructed and always, always from one good position to another. That matters to anyone who seeks to build institutions and tradition. Hoosier football could not possibly be a better fit with Coach Wilson and the challenge at IU with him.

    Coaching (like the military) stands out as a career where hands on early training under mentors who are themselves successful and demanding of the subordinates because of the system of trickle-down knowledge and experience from coach to coach in an ‘earn your stripes’ setting. Why? Because it involves the careful molding of human beings under stressful, extreme conditions where book knowledge carries you only so far. Vision, intuition and teaching as well as reacting to the ‘fog of war in live-fire experiences’ can only be learned as the experiences are repeated over and over. I believe that is exactly what Coach Wilson and his staff have shown in their career experience.

    But, then, I would not be honest if I didn’t also say that this argument is probably wasted on you. It don’t really think it was ever your intention to make a rational argument about the future prospects of Hoosier football under Coach Wilson, his staff and their history. Nor do I think you know much about the MAC either (particularly Miami U.-Ohio) which probably wondered just how competitive the Big Ten was after years of beating its teams.

    No, your intention in your blog comment was to just dump. Is your evaluation of coaching paths that ignorant or is it just that you don’t have anything interesting or thoughtful to say? I really bothered answering your blog comment because you just sounded so, so depressed. Call your mom.

  8. Wilson’s recruiting is no different than the last several coaches. He can throw IU’s hat into the ring of the top recruits but the fact is he will still end up signing a majority of players with lower division offers.

    Wilson is an unknown commodity as a head coach. He understands talent and knows that his team as it currently sits doesn’t have much. That is why he is anxious for members of his 2011 class to hit campus because they will likely be better than what he had to work with this spring.

    All the past accolades mean little now that he is on his own. He can’t walk into a recruits living room and sell them on the idea of participating in a BCS bowl this year, and probably not for the foreseeable future. IU isn’t OU and no matter how hard they try they never will. The best IU can hope for is a continuation of playing the little sisters of the poor during their OOC schedule and hope for two conference wins to go .500.

  9. MAC Champs; In a word, its pedigree! Wilson has it.

    And no one is suggesting IU is going to rival Oklahoma’s success in football or the number of four and five star recruits it signs any time soon. I believe most Hoosier fans have much more modest aspirations for their football team. We’ll take a winning season, being competitive in all Big Ten games, going to a bowl game every year or so and beating Michigan, OSU and Wisc at least once a decade.

    My former occupation required me to travel extensively. As a result I’ve had the pleasure of visiting a very large number of big and small college campuses all over the country. I’ve toured Oklahoma’s campus. I’ve been on Nebraska’s campus. There are very few campuses that match the beauty and atmosphere of IU Bloomington. IUB is a great place to go to college. The Hoosier Nation simply wants its football team to be as accomplished as the great university it represents. Most of us believe that’s possible. It’s not possible for any MAC schools!

  10. IUkiddingme; First, every first time head coach is an “unknown commodity” (thanks for that blinding glimpse at the obvious). But Wilson’s pedigree is far superior to what Lynch brought with him. Wislon has been a part of successful programs every where he has coached. “The best indication of future performance is past performance.”

    Secondly, you contradict yourself. Take some time to review your statements before you click on “Submit Comment.” If Wilson is so “anxious” to get the 2011 recruits on campus, how can his recruiting be “no different from the last several coaches.”

    Third, I’d be real happy if Wilson recruited as effectively as Mallory and Hep did. Those coaches had IU football pointed in the right direction.

    Four, the facts do not support your comment. The geography that Wilson is recruiting from has already been expanded far beyond the territory that Lynch and staff recruited. And I doubt IU has made offers to 142 HS players with offers from other BCS schools in many, many years. Lynch and staff’s recruiting was parochial, almost as if they were afraid of flying and Lynch never believed he could compete with other BCS schools in recruiting.

  11. Podunker, Wilson knows that recruiting is a numbers game and that is why he has extended 142 offers to athletes. Of that 142, lets say a fourth (approx. 36 recruits) are highly rated recruits. If the majority of those recruits are located in hotbed areas (Florida, Georgia, Texas, Ohio, Pensylvania, New Jersey) that have one or more strong programs regionally, all with winning records, it is unlikely that Wilson will get a very high percentage of them. Our history just doesn’t demand a great deal of interest for many recruits. If we get one of those highly rated recruits I would bet it would probably be from Kiel since he is a local product.

    The remaining 100 or so scholarship players will be whittled down quickly based on need, and the limited number of scholarships available. If we are only able to take 20 in this class that eliminates 80+ of those recruits, and that’s hoping that the remaining still have an interest in playing for us.

    I agree that Wilson needs to extend offers to talented players regardless of their recruiting rankings, but I don’t expect much in the way of success until Wilson proves himself and IU shows improvement. I see it as the law of diminsihing returns at this point, especially the farther the distance from Bloomington. If the staff spends a great deal of time chasing after high rated recruits who keep IU on their list of possibilities, only to select another school in the end, the staff gets nothing for the time, money and effort put in to recruiting that player. As a result Wilson will be left scrambling to fill his roster with a majority of plan B or less type players, or “MAC level” which has been our typical scenario these oh so many years.

    I hope that Wilson can win with what he currently has thus making an impression on more talented recruits in the future.

  12. Waiting; “Shoot for the moon, get to the roof. Shoot for the roof, you won’t get off the couch.” And, “you miss 100% of the shots you never take.”

    Wilson must aim higher in is recruiting. He must have the confidence to sell his coaching pedigree, the benefits of IU and Bloomington, and the opportunity to play for a Big Ten School. That has to be attractive to many top HS FB players. Of course its a numbers game. But in order to improve the quality of talent on the team, Wilson must pursue a greater number of better/higher rated players. If Wilson’s talent pool includes 142 HS players that have received offers from other BCS schools, and he only signs 20 of those players, IU FB is already greatly improved. I don’t believe Lynch was pursuing that many players with offers from BCS schools. If Wilson carries on with Lynch’s recruiting strategy, he’s doomed to achieve the same results.

    IU is a great Univesity. It has a lot to offer a young person wanting a solid education. Aside from a winning tradtion in FB, which I admit is a big obstacle, there is nothing about IU that should prohibit a quality coaching staff from obtaining its share of quality FB recruits.

    Not to attack you, but your comments reflect a big part of the problem for IU FB; low expectations and a general malaise about the future of IU FB on the part of too many people in the Hoosier Nation. If the majority of Hoosier fans continue to feel the way you do about IU FB, its never going to climb out of the Big Ten basement. The Hoosier Nation demanded a better product on the FB field and Glass responded by hiring Wilson. Now we need to support the new coaching staff, display some enthusiasm, be optimistic, while maintaining higher expectations. We need to go to IU FB games, donate some oney once in a while and develope some optimimism.

  13. You don’t have to sell me on IU because I know how terrific an institution it is.

    Being a realist doesn’t mean I have low expectations for Wilson or the program. And my or anyone else being optimistic or enthusiastic towards Wilson and his staff is going to impact who Wilson recruits or their decision to play for him. We as fans can fill Memorial Stadium, but if the product on the field doesn’t show progress recruits, and especially highly ranked recruits are going to come to Bloomington.

    Wilson coming from a perennial power like Oklahoma alone is not enough to get a bunch of highly ranked recruits to sign with IU. As you stated, the fact that we don’t have a winning tradition is a big obstacle to overcome. High ranked recruits chose winning programs because they want the notoriety that comes with playing for a winner. They are typically not the type that want to come to a program in the rebuilding process. I’m not saying Wilson should avoid trying to recruit these kids, but the chances of landing a number of highly ranked recruits is negligible.

    Other programs like Wisconsin didn’t crawl out of the basement by landing a bunch of high rated recruits at first. They instead recruited lower rated recruits that they evaluated and were able to develop and eventually win with. It isn’t glamorous or impressive, but it is a formula that has worked for not only the Badgers, but Iowa, Michigan State, and Northwestern.

    I am fully behind Wilson and believe he will usher in a new era of IU football that will have success. If he is able to land highly ranked recruits I’ll be impressed, but even if he doesn’t that will not dissuade my opinion that Wilson is going to be successful.

  14. Enjoyed reading the comments above. I agree that Wilson has his work cut out for him with recruiting. You have lots of folks come on here and talk about IU’s football recruting being better as of late but even with Coach Hep IU still was signing kids with small school offers and the rankings don’t support the trend people speak of either. With that said, Minnesota had a top 20 recruiting class 2 or 3 years ago and they have not set the world on fire with wins. I think the key is evaluating the talent and getting to them early and hoping the offer sticks and the kids actually come to IU. In the last few years IU has lost a few 4 star recruits at the last minute, but I do think Coach Wilson can/will change that.
    There has to be some luck involved as well and that happens on the field. The ball has not bounced IU’s way very often in the last several years. My biggest fear is that Wilson struggles his first year and then it is all a moot point because recruits will look at IU as just the same losing team it has been for a long time. My gut, heart and positive nature think that this year IU gets 6 or 7 wins and that will buy Wilson another great year to recruit which in turn will put more talent on the field helping to get more wins and turn some heads….that is the luck factor I speak of above. A 7 win season would get kids talking quick but a 4-5 win season…same old same old!

  15. I agree. I think IUs biggest problem were above the shoulders. They were soft. I doubt we’ll see that in the fall.

  16. Thanks for the useful info “pb”. Fellow “know-it-all”s, let’s look at it from the Recruits perspective: If I have an offer rom a great school like Indiana; a Big 10 and BCS school; with a nationally ranked school of business, law, medicine, etc.; and I have no other BCS offers; and I know that Indiana has made 147 offers; and that they will take only 25 +/-; then I would grab that offer right now! The players not ranked or being recruited by the “name” programs should be our first recruits. Then you get one “name” player to commit, the band wagon gets rolling, and you are starting to make a program. Come on Gunner Kiel!

  17. I would love to land Kiel, and he might be able to sway some in-state recruits our way, possibly Meador, Day and Price, but that is going to be difficult considering the programs recruiting these players.

    J Pat, it would be a “Coach of the Year” kind of performance by Wilson if he got us to 7 wins. I watched IU’s spring game on the BTN as well as several other conference members, and we appeared slower. It wasn’t because Wilson hadn’t implemented his entire playbook, or several possible starters were out due to injury. It just seemed that in comparison to how some of the other teams performed their players really moved much better. Linemen, backs, linebackers, just about every unit of the four or five spring games I viewed made quicker reads and knew where to be.

    Two things will determine the success or failure of our season, quarterback play and the blocking ability of our offensive line. I’m not too worried about the defense as that isn’t as sophisticated or intricate as offense. With defense you react and tackle. The offense is much more dependent on execution of the quarterback, and an experienced quarterback is a huge advantage. We are going to play an inexperienced quarterback and that usually equates to limiting the playbook and mistakes due to inexperience.

  18. waiting, I hear where you are coming from and they did look slow…I watched the game as well on the 50 yd line. Perez and the 4th string back that is really a backer were slower than slow. One kid coming back from a knee injury and one trying to learn the RB position. I also saw a team that was getting used to a NO huddle and learning a completely new offense. Keep in mind this was the first major scrimmage. I agree about the QB situation but after a couple games everyone will see that WB and Kiel are as good or better than Chap!

  19. The Next Alvarez would be a lofty title for Wilson. I am crossing my fingers.

    Regarding 5 star recruits always picking traditional superpowers, I am not so sure that this is as true as it used to be. NFL superstars these days come from a stunning spectrum of schools – big ones, small ones, and “where the heck is that?” ones. Exposure through a big name university with a long tradition is by no means a sure ticket to the pros. Scouts are smart; if you have game, they will find you.

    This is why I agree with Podunker. The allure of Bloomington, the quality of IU’s facilities and institutions, the beautiful campus, and an energetic young coaching staff certainly could prove to be more attractive than windswept Norman or smoggy Inglewood to a prospective 5 star recruit.

  20. HT, true the NFL doesn’t care where a player went to school or what his star rating was coming out of high school. All they are concerned about is can they play, and play the way they want them to play.

    Those NFL superstars from unknown or smaller programs I can assure you were not rated as 5-star or 4-star recruits coming out of high school. All you have to do is look at where the five-star talent (as rated by Rivals or Scout) went over the last ten years and you won’t find any who signed with a program that wasn’t in a major BCS conference, and rarely weren’t part of a traditional power.

    Though it is not out of the question that Kiel would sign with IU, it would be an anomoly. Most highly rated recruits want to play for an established winner and not be a part of a rebuilding process for a perennial losing program.

    Pro’s for coming to IU:
    Beautiful campus
    Beautiful coeds
    Quality education
    New upgraded facilities

    Con’s:
    No tradition
    Historical lack of support by students and fans (read poor attendance)
    Unproven head coach (He may be coming in as a highly decorated assistant from OU, but until he proves it on the field we just don’t know what we got. Two of Stoops top assistants that left Norman for their first head coaching gigs were fired within three years, so association with a winning program is not assurance of success).
    Culture: Wilson has to change the culture in Bloomington and that includes changing the perception of IU being continual bottm dweller by talented recruits. He can use the fact that he coached under Stoops and was the OC for 2 Heisman winners to impress recruits right up until the season starts, but I fear that if he and the team struggles his message will fall on deaf ears. It is harder to hide shortcomings once issues are exposed.

    I wold love to be ultra optimistic and say that because of Wilson’s past association with a perennial power will directly equate to him having success at IU. Regardless of how the team fares this year I will support him and the team. I don’t want to hear about how me as a fan must raise my expectations, as if a winning season will be come to fruition be simply raisnin my expectations. I don’t recruit the players, coach them, and call the plays. All I can do is support them as I have done these last 40 years and hope that Wilson’s raised expectations will finally show signs of improvement.

  21. Waiting: Good breakdown. Here’s another consideration to add to the discussion: in the past 20 years or so, tradition-lacking BCS schools who have shown a persistent, solid commitment to creating a winning atmosphere and building a new standard of competitiveness have generally been able to do so. This isn’t the old days where we can simply say that “Indiana will be Indiana” till the end of time. Arizona is a great example (there’s a Stoops connection for you). So is Oregon State, who was even worse of than IU at one point and now is a regular bowl participant. Other examples abound such as Kansas (still having ups and downs, but had a couple of good years under Mangino), Rutgers, Cincy and of course Northwestern in our own conference.

    What I am leading up to is that sooner or later, things will turn around. It’s the law of averages plus a militant determination on the part of the higher-ups that will give us a winning season that we can build on – NOT one like our 7-6 “miracle” season under Lynch which would have been 9-4 if Hep were alive to coach that team.

  22. “What I am leading up to is that sooner or later, things will turn around.”

    It could have been carefree and cute if you demonstrated some lighthearted wit and said ‘Sooner‘ or later.

  23. Got to agree with this writer.

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    Written by: Hondo S. Carpenter Sr. on 23rd June 2011

    Once again IU won’t matter in the Big Ten and that is sad. This could be a very good program. This is a great fan base that could win, and you have to feel bad for them.

    2011 Big Ten Football Scouting Report: Indiana Hoosiers

    Biggest Game: November 26, 2011, hosting Purdue

    Predicted record: 3-9 (0-8)

    Projected Big Ten Standing: 6th (last place) in the Big Ten Leaders Division

    Returning Starters: 12 OFFENSE: 6 DEFENSE: 6 Lettermen return: 48

    Head Coach: Kevin Wilson 1st Season at Indiana

    Top assistant: Doug Mallory DC

    Kevin Wilson comes to Indiana with an impressive track record as an assistant. Unfortunately, Indiana continues to have a mentality that they aren’t a destination job. They go after an assistant who no matter what he says, if he succeeds, will jump for a better job when proven head coaches who see IU as a destination job are ignored. It baffles me.

    There is some talent at Indiana and no matter how good of a coach that you are, you can’t win with the talent gap that IU has. This will be a rough year. We all know that Wilson can coach offenses that have talent. He did it at OU. Can he recruit the talent he needs at IU, and more importantly can he develop talent when the guys he is used to going after don’t and won’t go to IU?

    This year will be tough, but if he can recruit for 2012 and start to produce, there is a slight chance that he can succeed at IU. He must over achieve. If I am an IU fan, the depressing thought is that if he does do well he is gone. Coaches that don’t see IU football as a destination want out of there like a fat guy in an exercise class.

    September 3 Ball State Win

    September 10 Virginia Win

    September 17 South Carolina State Win

    September 24 @North Texas Loss

    October 1 Penn State Loss

    October 8 Illinois Loss

    October 15 @Wisconsin Loss

    October 22 @Iowa Loss

    October 29 Northwestern Loss

    November 5 @Ohio State Loss

    November 19 @MSU Loss

    November 26 Purdue Loss

  24. One thing we can all agree on is micchimpy is always going to be “down” in the MAC.

  25. The above poster is a joke, as well as the above “sportswriter.” “Hondo” Carpenter is a small town chump who writes about the Michigan State Spartans – not exactly the pedigree of a man in the know. If he was in Bloomington he’d be Hugh and Dustin’s office gopher.

    If he worked hard, he might be allowed to eventually work his way up to covering the Roller Girls.

    He makes Justin Albers look like John Madden.

  26. Well MAC I was hoping to keep this an inteligent and respectful exchange of opinions but that is not to be expected from someone from an inferior league.

    Now to the point I will address. I don’t know much about the writer of this piece or his credentials, but what he said is exactly the point I was making in my previous post, and that is the issue Wilson must overcome with peoples perception of IU football.

    I have read comments on several IU websites where posts deal with the very subject of this potentially being a temporary stop and not a permanent destination. I have read posters who say they have no issues with this as long as he builds the program into a winner before leaving. The problem with this is you undercut the recruiting process for high level recruits. Kids typically want some assurance that the coach that recruited them is going to be there for the duration of their college career. It also undermines the possibility of continued success, because there is no guarantee that the coach who follows will be able to duplicate the results.

    If the notion of possibly having a coach leave for greener pastures because this is not a permanent destination, that will prevent these type of players from truly considering IU. We as IU fans must help make the IU program become that permanent destination by showing our support by attending games, and football related activities open to the public,and other events.

    As for this writers season predictions I have no comment other than to say everything will be determined on the field come September.

  27. Waiting: we have to become a stepping stone school for someone before we become a mainstream destination. It’s just the facts of life. No one should be “worried” about KW leaving if he is successful.

    Gonzaga basketball had to be a stepping stone for Dan Monson before it got Mark Few (and they ended up even better under him). Ditto for Mike Riley at Oregon State (football), who left for the NFL and opened the door for Dennis Erickson. I think the overall benefit of winning ultimately overrides the short-term effect on recruits of a coaching change.

  28. If we have the success other ‘stepping stone’ schools, like Oregon State and Cincinnati, have experienced I’ll be satisfied. As far as talent, there are more good players and scholarship limitations don’t allow traditional powers to stockpile players as in the past.

  29. Ditto, Chet. Lowering the ceiling on scholarship numbers gave dozens more programs and a handful of additional conferences the opportunity to be viable. Strategically positioning college FB to be even more enjoyable. IU is late to the party but initially Greenspan and now AD Glass have targeted the party as a goal.

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