Garrett Green commits to San Diego State

If this were all about basketball, Garrett Green said, he’d be going to Indiana.

The 6-foot-11 transfer from Louisiana State said he was extremely impressed by Indiana’s coaching staff, players and facilities. However, the Woodland Hills, Calif., native was more importantly looking to go to graduate school in a place that would set him up for life after basketball. So in the end, he decided to return closer to home and committed to San Diego State on Saturday night.

“This decision was extremely hard on me,” Green said. “I was really juggling between Indiana and San Diego State. I came out there and I was blown away at how great of a person Tom Crean is and how much he really tried to help me. If I was a freshman and it was strictly on basketball, I would go there. But it’s all about grad school.”

Green made it clear that he didn’t see Indiana’s grad school options as inferior, but San Diego State allowed him the opportunity to network close to home and gave him more of an opportunity to stay in the Southern California area after college.

“I’m from California and I’m trying to network out there,” Green said. “That’s exactly what my decision was based on. If I was a freshman, Indiana would be my choice. … But obviously, location is important. You’re trying to find a place where you could see yourself after you graduate. You can network with people and find people that might want to pursue something in the same field.”

Green majored in sports administration at LSU. He declined to say exactly what field he would pursue at San Diego State.

The Hoosiers were recruiting Green intensely because they were hoping to add depth in a front court that currently only includes three true scholarship post players in senior Tom Pritchard, junior Derek Elston and freshman Cody Zeller. The 6-foot-11, 230-pound Green played three years at LSU and averaged 6.3 points and 5.1 rebounds as a junior. He took a redshirt year at LSU because of an injury and graduated. A recently enacted NCAA rule allows players who have graduated to transfer elsewhere without having to sit out a year to find a graduate program their current school does not have.

Green said he thought the Hoosiers would still do fine without him.

“You can see they’re hungry for it,” Green said of the Hoosiers. “They want to win. I talked to them when I was on my visit. We hung out and basketball was all they talked about.”

44 comments

  1. Can’t say I blame him Given what his priorities were, he made the logical decision for his needs. If you are from CA and basketball isn’t your top priority, it’s hard to turn down San Diego. He’s smart, looking ahead to beyond the 2011-12 season.

  2. Good luck to him, but he really missed an opportunity many have dreamed of. He will be quickly forgotten in the basketball world now, where as he could have been a part of something special here and people may have talked about him for years to come. It’s good that he is focused on his career, but I’m sure being at Indiana University isn’t exactly a bad move for a business major.

  3. If he knew location was most important then why the hell even visit IU. Not the brightest bulb in the box if you ask me. Go see how that SDSU degree compares in the market place to a degree from IU. Hell Ball State has a more highly regarded communication department that SDSU.

    What a loser I am glad he went out with “cheater” Steve Fisher. He probably promised him a big car like his players at UM.

    We will be fine. I was starting to feel bad for Pritch anyway. I mean he may not be the most talented player but for him to endure what he has the past 3 years and then lose his starting spot to some newcomer his senior year would have sucked.

  4. He is not looking to work really hard, either academically or athletically, so he made the right choice.

  5. If we make the NCAA tournament, the committee will likely send us out West..Seems they always send us westward. Who knows…Maybe Garrett can watch us play in his backyard next March. Good luck to this young man, but I don’t necessarily think playing the safe hand is always the best hand. I still think IU, even without the additional inside help Garrett could have provided, is poised for a special turnaround season. Watford on the floor with Zeller will add multiple dimensions to our offensive punch..Remy Abel could really surprise with his explosiveness, defense, and speed in the open court. Hulls just keeps astonishing the critics with his level of improvement. A healthy Creek? This could be very similar to the ’73 season when Knight took an Indiana team very few even had on their radar all the way to the Final Four. We have a core of maturing players that are hungry..We have one of the most anticipated recruits to put on the candy-stripes since Damon Bailey. I can’t think of a team that would be more exciting to play for right now. There will be an indescribable energy if it all comes together. Indiana may have looked like a career risk, but the risk may have been worth the memories.

  6. Let’s avoid the sour grapes. He made his decision, and he didn’t do anything to screw us over, mislead us, or back out of a promise. We don’t have to agree, but let’s show some class.

  7. Face it, you lost out to a mid-major, and not because IU is a ‘better’ school. SDSU has a Sports Managment MBA, Fisher is a good coach, Southern California has lots of opportunity. The kid is going to go to grad school AND play basketball, so it just shows what a bunch of losers some of you are for implying he wants to ‘take it easy’. The kid had a no-lose situation wherever he went – he got a degree from LSU payed for and now he gets a grad degree payed for – proves he’s smarter than 95% of us. And to think that players that don’t go to IU get ‘forgotten’ 5 years after they’re gone – Sheesh what a dumb comment – I sure hope he didn’t make his decision based on whether he’d be remembered in 5 years in Bloomington or Long Beach (and yes he’d be remembered in Long Beach) or San Diego, one thing I’ve learned is Indiana has some of the most condescending fans out there. No wonder IU basketball is in the dumps.

  8. IF he were a freshman he would come here?? Well then it sounds like he wouldnt fit in here for the 1 yr! I believe his heart isnt in basketball and if it wasnt he really would not fit in and he could be a hindrance to the team!!

  9. Good luck Garrett. Ignore all the self righteous, pious haters on this board. Everytime a recruit chooses some school other than IU, they come out of the woodwork. Thank goodness you aren’t from Indiana or you would have really gotten the wrath of all the haters and the “why didn’t he stay in state” crowd because IU has to recruit only Indiana guys. Come to think of it, since you aren’t from Indiana, I’m surprised you were even recruited. Heck we all know only Indiana has basketball players that are any good. C’mon people, leave the kid alone. He did what he did for himself and made a well thought out decision.

  10. Did my grapes sound sour? I hope not because it was not my intention. It would have been nice to get this kid…(like a surprise Christmas gift your parents didn’t put under the tree, but brought out when you were thinking all the unwrapping was over)…That kind of already happened with Remy from a Kentucky Santa. To expect two unanticipated presents to fall in our lap seems a bit greedy. I am still more than optimistic we have a great mix of players and better times have sweetened on the vine made strong from harder elements endured…..A wonderful and complex blend, primed for picking, that could make for a very special vintage(grape metaphor).

  11. I always like to see an academic critique coming from someone who spells ‘paid’ as ‘payed’.

    ROTFLMAO.

    I hope you’re just a fan of Long Beach and you don’t actually go to school there. That’s a third grade spelling word.

    How humiliating.

  12. I’m not humiliated, are you? So I typed fast and didn’t spell check – excuuuse me. Like I said, no wonder IU BB is the dumps. You know, I like Indiana, been there many times, I have a relative getting a doctorate at IU. Indiana has my favorite hotel in the world at French Lick. But your basketball IQ is way overinflatered and provincial. Make sure sure you check for errors!!

  13. He made the right choice for his plans as he described them. It sounds as though basketball is a means to a scholarship for him. There would have been a lot more pressure at IU than San Diego and he didn’t seem interested in that.
    Best of luck to him.

  14. You talked to your dog and it told you he/she was embarrassed?? Wow, I’m impressed. Didn’t realize they teach doggie communications at IU. So those 15000 fans are actually barking (and I can see from the IU record why they are embarrassed), things are becoming more clear by the minute.

  15. Go away Beach, back to the hole you climbed out of. Garrett said he would shave picked IU if basketball was his priority, but it wasn’t. The more you rag on IU’s basketball prowess, the worse you look, as we were rated above LBS last year. If we stunk, you stunk worse. Also, according to Garrett, LBS wasn’t even a contender. Again if our school stinks, your school stinks worse.

    Try losing 100% of your scholarship players and empty your recruiting pipeline, and see how your school recovers from that. We have 15000 fans at every game because we all know we’re coming back, stronger than ever. Unfortunately LBS will always be a no-name po-dunk school with immature fans who troll around other schools’ blogs and harass and annoy people.

  16. Not surprised at all when he said the choice was not about basketball. I then knew IU was probably done given schools closer to him where in it. Yet many still made up new lineups, etc. expecting he was coming. Maby twenty years ago but IU right now is not a great name in BB.

    We have been trying the last three springs and summers to add a big man and cant even get one. I guess we better get them in the fall. I was just hoping we could get a guy to push Prichard out of the rotation maybe. I am not a fan of his but yet again we are stuck with only him at the five.

  17. It’s entirely appropriate for the kid to see networking at his grad school as helpful in his future life. You’d think, though, that he would recognize what a poor environment California has for starting out due to its state government. People are leaving the state in droves, and its unemployment rate is still one of the highest in the country. Given his top criterion for choosing, I wonder why he didn’t consider a Texas school. Home is home, I guess.

  18. Do you know there are 347 Division 1 Mens College Basketball teams. Has to be a very competitive market for the better talent. I am happy for the player we got and and really don’t think twice for the ones we miss. And…. the sun rose this morning and I am sure will set tonight. lalalalala

  19. A 5th year big man would have been great, but we’ll do fine and it will give Derek Elston and Pritch opportunities to step up and be major contributors in the paint.

  20. This kid is first class. The only thing keeping him from making a choice on friday was Indiana. Although he would of been a huge difference maker….I strongly believe he would a made a bigger difference at IU than any of the other schools he listed. I just think getting back to the California lifestyle and being closer to home was the highest priority for Green. Good luck to him.

  21. I think Garret touched on something that too few players consider. Of course he’s probably 22 and most are 17 when they decide… The power of being an alumnus in the market you intend to live in is very important. Look at the number of IU basketball players that get jobs because they’re an IU grad living in Indiana. (e.g. Cook Pharma)

  22. He made the right choice for himself. His future is in sports management in Southern California, not basketball. The networking in San Diego will probably offset the better business school at IU…and his girlfriend is there. It was never a basketball decision.
    Leave BeachBoy alone. He reminds me of the ‘challenged’ fan that attended all the games at my high school. He ran around screaming at the officials every game and someone would eventually have to calm him down. He was noisy but he never really caused any harm.

  23. Chet is always the voice of reason..Where does it come from? I wish I had such a bounty in the hold my cabin. I remember his story about the young kid that rammed in the rear of his motorcycle. The accident could have easily ended his life. He wanted to rip his head off, but then his calmer and stable side prevailed when he could tell the boy didn’t have many lights glowing through the windows of his blank stare the upper floors.

    Once again, Chet demonstrates the same enormous strength and compassion in this instance as he backs away from BeachHick, takes him under his wing…all children of God, all deserving love. In the days the earth was still vast and undiscovered, Chet would have made a great sea captain….a firm and confident voice to comfort the souls on a restless and boundless journey; a fatherly tone with strong hull not so heavy and thick an oak plank to make cold inside an impenetrable heart…a man that could quell an expanse of endlessness that toyed with sanity and loneliness every man’s compass to keep his dignity and not stray the course.

    The world needs more Chets. No more waters to test our fortitude and keep honor on our ships. These are days of frightening crossings that challenge men beyond the depths of blue. I came at you too hard, BeachHick. I am the ugliness that Chet refuses to let come in. I am lost at sea never to find the quieting bed of a soft sandy shore to bring me home.

  24. There is not much to add that hasn’t been said by the more rational, intelligent comments. The most impressive thing is that Green seems to have all the right priorities in place in making his choice, the character and intelligence that gave him the opportunity to make the choice and the wisdom to understand the whole life nature of his choice.

    Good luck to Green; hope he reaches everyone of his goals and enjoys what they’ll bring him. Most bloggers here understood the issue, respect the player’s right to decide on his terms and admire the classy way in which Green handled it.

  25. +1 to that man. Good luck to the kid. Hoosier fans havent experienced too many recruiting fails the past couple years, so here’s to humility and to Garrett Green and his future.

    Now about Derek Willis……

  26. Lost- you wear your heart on your sleeve, man. You deserve mention in the same breath as Chet and JPat as one of the Scoop’s most sincere, honest men. I salute you.

  27. Oh brother, I think I’m gonna barf. Congrats to the self-congratularies!! Green played this magnificantly, kudos to him. He still doesn’t know what grad school he’s going into – so much for LSU not offering what he wanted, since after all the drama and visits he still doesn’t know what he wants to do, and after 4 years (how many of us do) and school starts in 3 weeks!! Maybe he knew he was gonna transfer 3 months ago, maybe 3 weeks ago, he’s a 22 year old who likes to play basketball and likes San Diego – not a bad place to be in life, and good for him. He wants to network, whatever that means to a 22 year old, not a bad idea and thing to do, but he has yet to decide what field he’s going to network in. I say he has a future in sales. Can’t wait to actually see how the guy plays. Good luck IU, you never had a chance!

  28. I find it telling that fans of a team that can only sell 3k tickets for home games need spell check to type P-A-I-D correctly.

    I value the loss of GG like this. The relevancy of his commitment to IU was circumstantial at best, for if he had been GG, HS Senior BB player from California with 4 years eligibility he would never have gotten an IU offer.

  29. Gee. I’d certainly like my future in a state that is broke, with some of the highest real estate prices on the planet and a future tax base that will continue to cause people of means to move to Texas and Florida with no income taxes. So good luck young Mr. Green.

  30. This is a non-story. This never should have been a story. It’s not worth the time it’s taking any of us to post our comments.

    No sour grapes here. It’s not a big loss for IU BB and had he selected IU, it would not have been a big get.

    But the story raises a different point to me. I think the rule should be changed that once a studen athlete gradudates, he should not be allowed to continue playing. Nothing against Green, he’s just taking advantage of the existing rule, but his position on any team’s roster means that another young man will not have that opportunity, or will at least be delayed in his pursuit of an opportunity. Green’s had his opportunity, he got his degree from LSU. Time to allow another young man to pursue the same opportunity of being a student athlete. The rule just seems contrary to the interest of young men, many of who are underpriviledged and can’t afford college tuition. It’s not like we have too few young men and women wanting to get an athletic scholarship.

  31. Charlie Ward’s last year at Florida State he was in grad school, having graduated in three years. He won the Heisman that year but elected to play in the NBA, instead. If I recall, he was also drafted to play pro baseball. Along the way he was winning humanitarian awards for his volunteer work. he was pretty amazing. Must have never slept of lived in a time warp. Maybe he just didn’t own a TV.
    I know he’s the exception, and there is red shirting, but if a kid can graduate in three years I’m inclined to give him all sorts of extra opportunities.

  32. Dustin, I’m not opposed to redshirting. I think it enhances player safety and gives young adults time to mature and adapt to the rigorous pace assocated with being a student athlete. Any student athlete should be entitled to taking five years to get his degree. That’s only fair given the time demands associated with being an athlete. But once he/she obtains his/her degree, or uses four year’s of his/her athletic eligibility, his/her playing career should be finished. If he/she gets the degree in three years, he/she should be allowed to play out his/her fourth year of eligibility as long as he/she meet the criteria as a “student”.

    Again, I’m not attacking Green. He’s simply taking advantage of what the rules allow. But it just seems contrary to the mission of giving young adults an opportunity to improve their life through education. And frankly, it just seems lie that rule promotes greed. I mean the guy had his four or five years at LSU. Now he’s getting another year at another University? Bottom line is that some other young man is NOT getting that year of full scholarship as a result.

    I know Green’s circumstances are relatively rare and that not a lot of people are involved in this type of extended scholarship, but it just seems like one propsective student athlete denied or delayed a scholarship is one too many. The NCAA should do away with this rule so that more young adults have the opportunity that Green has already had.

  33. From the time you enter collegiate competition you have five years to utilize your four years of college eligibility, barring injury red shirt, which must be approved by the NCAA.

  34. It seems to me the NCAA had nothing to do (and should have nothing to do) with the academic requirements for graduation. These are a purely and properly academic matter. The NCAA only rules over intercollegiate competition. It does allow a school to give well qualified matriculated students five years to compete for a maximum of five years against other like students (except in certain rare exceptions such as injury, etc. where, after review, the NCAA may extend the 5-year clock.

    But, it seems to me that if a student has the talent and the discipline to complete his academic credits ahead of his/her scholarship covered period, he/she has earned control of the time the scholarship allows for competition; and its use for post-graduation studies are a net benefit to us all.

    I worry a lot more about athletes who have no interest in earning a diploma and basically take the space of a legitimate student. Since the spaces in a college are limited, someone more deserving is squeezed out and the benefit to the taxpayer/donor is lost.

    Truthfully, we’ve seen more of our share of those (wasn’t that the underlying problem of the Sampson gang? that left us barefoot, naked and pregnant).

  35. Tsao, good point. Does society get greater benefit from giving more young people the opportunity to attend college or from allowing someone who got their degree to pursue post-graduate studies?

  36. The guidelines took a personal hit on one of my kids. My son was coming off a great sophomore season in wrestling. Missed the school season record in wins by a single match, top 5 in the country in wins in his weight class, won the conference, had a good run in the NCAA Championships (bumping a Big Ten entrant from the tourney in the process), and he was a pre-season top ten and on a couple All America lists heading into his junior year. He was on track to crush all the school records (after 2 years he was #4 in career wins). Wrestling had taken a toll, though. Between all the missed classes for post season tournaments and regular practice/competition demands he was struggling academically plus he had a shoulder to mend. The coach wanted him competing and wouldn’t grant a red shirt. He had to walk away. A couple years later he was back in good standing but his window had closed. He never saw the mat again.
    There are good reasons a set window for competition but sometimes we forget the ‘student’ part of ‘student athlete’.

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