Crean responds to NCAA secondary recruiting violation

After Indiana committed an NCAA secondary violation, reportedly in the recruitment of 2012 recruit Gary Harris, Indiana coach Tom Crean responded to the violations in front of the media today.

Crean called the violation “an inadvertent mistake”, saying that he and assistant coach Tim Buckley had a miscommunication on dates coaches were allowed to recruit players. Fifteen minutes after he had arrived, he found out that his recruiting trip wasn’t within the bounds of NCAA rules.

“As soon as I didn’t drive myself off the road in anger, we called it in immediately,” Crean said. “And we handled it with the people who need to know and moved rapidly to get it in and not let it linger.”

Crean said the response to the violation was handled as quickly and efficiently as possible, and he held himself accountable for the flub.

“It was an inadvertent mistake,” Crean said. “And I’m glad we caught it when we did. It’s my responsibility, we’ve answered it. It was handled in process before I even got back to Bloomington.”

Crean wouldn’t take questions on the matter, instead turning the focus of the press conference to injured wing Maurice Creek.


  1. you get real. He means alot to this program that he is building he admitted to the mistake and so get over it. The ncaa is the one we have to worry about. In this i cant not see them doing a lot to us. Every team does this about 5 to 6 times a year. So it is a minor infraction if he does it again then i would worry. So get real and enjoy the Hoosiers.

  2. get real, I don’t think Coach Crean is going to apologize to you. If it will help any, let me apologize to you. I apologize that a coach that you have never liked made a small mistake and has incurred a secondary violation for the school and team that you love (no sarcasm – I know you are a fan). I know you are concerned about the mistake and I hope my apology will help you get on with your life.

  3. In the law, there is theory that that “one either knew or should have known”–that is the situation here. For CTC to declare it as “inadvertent’ or “a mistake” is not defensible.IU can give him a pass, but Glass,being an attorney, certainly must be bothered with the explanation.

  4. How would you, a random fan, ever think you could know how Glass feels? Is he your close personal friend? The only fan you are is a fan of yourself with delusions of grandeur. Get real and get over yourself. This is basketball not the law and Coach owes you no apology so take Boomer’s because it is the only one you will get.

  5. I suspect that CTC went to a bar the day before his 21st birthday, but said it was an inadvertent mistake. You CTC supporters are laughable on this issue.

  6. get real…GET A LIFE DUDE or crawl back under your rock! let’s just continue to make a mountain out a mole hill. it’s a freakin secondary violation. this crap happens at every school damn near everyday. move on and continue to suport CTC. he is human and, last time i checked, humans make mistakes…knowingly and unknowingly. he made a mistake and admitted his mistake…MOVE ON!!!

  7. IUBASEBALL– that”everyone does it” and “secondary violation”argument will eventually bury IU. He’s paid $2.3 million annually to not make mistakes.He should give a refund to IU for this debacle and for his poor won/loss record– he can keep his recruiting salary allocation for now.

  8. it hasn’t seemed to bury Alabama football, LSU football, Florida football, Texas football, UNC basketball, even the mighty DUKE basketball (yes Coach K has admitted secondary violations in the past)…would you like for me to continue? last time i checked, NONE of these programs have been buried.

  9. GetReal and several other real Hoosier fans (including me) have argued that among other things, integrity and focus on compliance are integral parts of wearing the “It’s Indiana” brand on their shirts.

    Given recent history, they have a right to be concerned ( do include myself in this group). Bad administration buried a 100 year history of exemplary success built through the genius and work of several coaching legends. Names like Counsilman, McCracken, Knight, Yeagley, Billingsley, Mallory are not common.

    They are the essence of why we can even say ‘It’s Indiana’ D**n straight any true IU fan should be concerned and be vocal about no tolerance for errors/proactive over-the-top recruitment that willfully violates or justifies in any way circumventing the rules of pro-actively decent institutional behavior.

    Many red lights are run by individuals distracted with their thoughts elsewhere and the law covers those. Some, take advantage as the light changes and speed up to cross on yellow and the judge is sometimes tempted to let the distraction go,… were it not for that d**n father of two little girls now buried in the ground., his body torn to shreds.

    Especially at the margins, pushing the envelope should be a concern. That’s why it is so surprising to see so many attacks on the concern that IU stand for low tolerance of recruiting violations, technical or blatant.

    So many of the attacks are actually the product of people whose sole focus appears to be the distraction in their real lives. As in their games. One even wonders if there is an internal side to them.

    Basketball, football, soccer and especially IU are important to me and, sometimes very important. I ‘like’ being a fan and I do have ‘an’ emotional attachment to IU. Part of that attachment came from the belief that our programs were built on solid kids, generally good students, great teaching/coaching and loving (a very appropriate word) fans. And, if the parts were all good, the glue- the integrity of the programs- holds it together as exemplary to the rest of the world…something we could really rub in our ‘friendly’ opponent’s face. Hoosier are class! We Hoosiers do not cheat! Period!

    When the candy striped pants climbed the step-ladder to cut down the nets, the Hoosier brand was their honesty. When IU teams accepted a trophy, the team was representative of what’s good in college sports; no one questioned it. When “OUR” players raised their hands as champions they were kids like Mike Woodson, Ray Tolbert, Bob Russell, Harry Gonzo, Anthony Thompson, Mark Spitz, Carlbert Cheaney, Greg Bell, Cyndy Potter, Armando Betancourt, Hudson Fortune, Bob Kennedy. One always knew that after the scholarship had paid the tuition bill, the housing and food bills, any money in their pockets had come from what they earned working or from their families.

    When these same kids sat in the classroom with us, we knew they’d have to earn their grade the same way we did or their wearing of the Crimson was over. Rarely did I we have a question about being a Hoosier, win or lose…heck we saw them as Part II of the movie.

    Yet, twice that I remember the attitude that “I don’t want to know” tore down to a myth the core of ‘It’s Indiana’. In 1960, willful and blatant violations in our football programs made us a synonym to schools like Miami (FL), Kentucky and Tennessee. Five years ago recruiting pressure to bring to ‘win now’, without regard to character, how or who led to incredible (in their number) abuses of recruiting rules, to devious behaviors to circumvent rules and to lies to hide the truth from the other members of the NCAA.

    Our players were put in the position of corrupting themselves; our coaches of corrupting the system and the ethics of their profession and the fans of reaching for completely self demeaning ways to justify the whole thing.

    It doesn’t matter who else is doing what. I love IU, take pride in it, have bragged about our athletic programs on four continents, 30+ different countries and watched strangers eyes light up in awe of the words Indiana University or Hoosiers (“what’s Hoosier?”) when spoken.

    The issue for me is not Coach Crean and whether he can return us to the stature we seek, or coach Wilson and whether he can lead us to the same sense of football pride that makes “We’re Indiana’ so meaningful. We will see.

    The real issue is whether Tom Crean- the man-, and all coaches, administrators and fans can simply face up to the challenge of “It’s Indiana” with real pride and integrity; and not do it the Tennessee, the Ohio State, the SMU, the Miami of Florida, the Southern Cal or Kentucky Way. Those that prefer ‘their way’ or advocate the “everybody does it way” are the ‘losers’ who can not fathom what winning even is. And, it is they who are the ones who would mop the urinals in Assembly Hall and Memorial Stadium with Candy Striped pants.

    Not n front of me they wont.

  10. Tsao– that’s pretty heartfelt.

    I am currently rereading “Catch 22”–its been 20 plus years since the first time. Anyway, CTC has sort of a Catch 22 situation by saying overlooking a defined date was a mistake. I guarantee you Ryan,Beilein,Painter,Weber,Matta, and even his buddy Izzo aren’t buying it. His credibility with his peers has been shattered.

  11. A cop pulled me over for going 9 m.p.h. in excess the posted limit, and I asked for a $200.00 speeding ticket because the last guy that owned my car was involved in 10 reckless driving incidents and a hit-and-run. I also explained to the officer it was not a mistake. I knew the speed limit was 55 m.p.h. and foolishly let my foot press the gas pedal hard enough to get my speed up to 60. I told him that simply giving me a warning will not suffice. I apologized with all my heart and pleaded for forgiveness to all fans of the road. I added that the only appropriate and honorable action was to take away my drivers license for this horrible lapse in thinking.

    I then asked the policeman if he could call Officer Compliance down at the station and tell him I went 5 minutes past the expiration time on a parking meter while I was at lunch today. It wasn’t a mistake. I knew, or certainly should have known, that I had to get back at my car by 1:15 when the waiter was finalizing my bill at exactly 1:10. There was no parking ticket on my windshield, but I’m fully aware of the rules. I wanted to make this right and felt no parking violation deserves “inadvertent oversight” as an excuse. I am a man of faith and it is time for parking meter repentance.

    One other note: I failed to mention that the flashing crosswalk sign had changed from the “it’s o.k. to walk” message symbolized by the stick-figure pedestrian to the “don’t walk” imposing red hand signal when I was rushing back to my car with the expired parking meter. I slightly misjudged the shot clock thingamajig that tells you how many seconds you have to get your a$$ across the street. Please know that I am self-reporting this incident and I’m confident you will take the appropriate measures you feel necessary for this additional inexcusable offense.

    I don’t know what’s wrong with me…1976 seems so long ago…The Hoosiers were on their undefeated march to a national championship and Elton John was singing “Sorry seems to be the hardest word.” I learned nothing.

  12. GetReal…somewhere in the beginning, Yossarian (for those of you who skipped the class, Yossarian is the hero/narrator of Catch 22); anywa, Yossarian says he want to ‘get out of the war’ because ‘everybody’s crazy.”
    His interlocutor (believe Col. Cathcart or Crazy Joe) asks Yossarian “why do you say their crazy?”
    “Cause they’re all shooting at me,” answers Yossarian.
    “But,… they’re shooting at everybody,” Cathcart (Crazy Joe) replies…
    “See, I told you, they’re all crazy!”, finishes Yosssarian.
    (Believe it or not, from memory. One of the greatest if not the greatest book of the English language…at least the American language version. Ahhhh….as opposed to the British English language for those of you who have heard a rumor that there is actually a world over the hill going north or south on IND. 37, but don’t quite yet accept or believe the rumor)

    See “getreal”, Yossarian is right. They’re all shooting at you because they’re all crazy. CATCH 22.

  13. let me pose this question to everyone: had we not had to deal with the Sampson (ugh…i even hate typing his name…) debacle, would this actually be news? let’s be honest, how many schools with “clean” recruiting records have a secondary violation reported by ESPN? i don’t think it would be news worthy. love crean or hate crean…whoever the coach would be minus the sampson debacle…would this actually be news worthy? dustin, being the reporter, maybe you can chime in on this one.

  14. “Sorry” Update. Very, very, very good.

    My old man was an incredible human being. Hard guy! But with an incredible capacity to love…really love. He moved our family (I was 10) nearly 7000 miles to make sure we got to eat everyday and could get an education so we could then give the same to our kids.

    As I said, he was hard. If I did, said or omitted to do something I could count on a wack across the top of my head. AS I got older, life became more challenging.

    One day, I did something I knew I shouldn’t do. As I approached the dining table, I saw it in his eyes and could feel the air moved as he wacked me (as I expected). The, he began to sit down, stopped, got the look in his eyes and “whackkk!”, again across the top of the head.

    “What was that for?”, I demanded, looking at him.

    He stAred back at me, shook his index in fronT of my nose and said:
    “Because you’re going to do it again tomorrow. i KNOW YOU! It’s your nature!”

  15. IUBaseball,
    Remember last year when Tom Izzo took a one-game suspension for using an employee at a basketball camp who was affiliated with a recruit? That was also a secondary violation. I think this is kind of follows along similar lines in terms of its newsworthiness. It’s a little different because it’s not directly affecting a game. But it’s an item that’s worthy of discussion. The highest paid employee of the state screwed up something despite all sorts of safeguards. He failed to read a calendar that’s available to everyone and that isn’t something that should be swept under the rug.
    Would the reaction have been this big if not for Sampson? Probably not. But part of it probably is that the media (and I very, very, very much include myself in this) has to do a better job of reporting on all secondary violations in all sports. We don’t print them all, because in some cases, they’re really not a big deal at all and they’re not at all interesting on their face.
    Here’s a for instance. We’ll often do a public records request and get every secondary violation for a quarter. One of the last times we did this, we found out that the football program reported a secondary violation because a coach called back a number he didn’t recognize and got a recruit at a time when he couldn’t make a phone contact, hung up immediately and reported a violation. In another case, a coach sent a text message on his smart phone when he thought he was sending an e-mail. That’s also a violation. Those aren’t things we’ve reported just because we didn’t think they were that interesting.
    But maybe we need to do this just to provide the proper perspective. Maybe just a quarterly list or something like that. Not necessarily to desensitize people to it, just to put it in perspective.
    We’re trying to hit the tone right here, just as I think most of the other IU beat guys are. There’s a middle ground tone that needs to be struck here between dismissing the charge and inciting the pitchforks. It’s not a non-story and it’s not Watergate and it’s definitely not a Kelvin Sampson level violation.
    How do you all think we’re doing and how could we do better?

  16. Sounds like you had a great dad. And sometimes good people screw up. I love my school and I refuse to put Indiana and Tom Crean on an unfair pedestal. Maybe your hints of our basketball coach being a flawed man are true. Maybe when we fail to live by even the smallest decisions/actions with moral compass, then the larger achievements are tainted and diminished.

    Conversely, it’s quite easy to lose the capacity to forgive as we sell ourselves behind these curtains of anonymity as perfect models of our own perfect world. By continually pointing out the faults(with moral deception in words used as our “whacking stick?”) and choosing to obsessively exaggerate all the inadequacies are heroes of choice, do we not unfairly crumble hopes in everything a young mind can have to look up to? The trend of the day is to ruin people. I begin to get a very sunken feeling in my heart. I begin to wonder where the true inadequacy resides in all the judgment.

  17. IU Baseball…what challenges my belief are two things: 1/ the insistence that Tom Crean did not know know the ‘permissible visitation’ parameter dates. That is definitely an ‘if he didn’t know, he should have known’ issue.
    2/ Ignorance of the rules, especially clearly stated rules cost IU the eligibility of Guy Michel last year. The reason for those rules is that playing basketball overseas is normally a question of having crossed the ‘professional’ line and there is not a member of the American Basketball Coaches assn. that does not know that. In my mind, they took a shot at the margins and lost. But I do have a hard time believing the reason. Please notice, the ‘confusion/failure” in the Michel case involved the same two gentlemen, Mr. Crean and Mr. Buckley acting in the wind-up to the recruiting period. 3/ But in both cases there is an issue that resurfaces from the Sampson days. The attempt or appearance to cover up or ‘soften’ a secondary violation by ‘hedging’. In places where an Honor Code binds behavior (West Point, Annapolis, Air Force), or in some other universities where individual integrity is an uncompromising standard, ‘hedging’ (not quite coming with the entire 100% of the truth) is considered the the same thing as a lie. 4/ Tom Crean has yet to speak the words “I apologize’ or ‘I’m sorry’. He better than most should know the definition of ‘repentance’ because it reflects on what he claims as his personal ethic. I’m personally very bothered by this omission. 5/ No arguments about his coaching ability/or lack thereof, or the performance or non-performance or his recruiting success or lack thereof are relevant to this issue. If he were 32-0 or if he were 1-31 I’d feel no differently. The arrogance bothers me. 6/ The one mitigating fact is that in reading the actual filed document revealing the violation, the text clearly states that Mr. Buckley initially suggested the visit and, later once Mr. Crean was on the visit, was told of the violation status by a [third] coach. To his credit, Dustin Dopirak obviously read this in the documents as the narrative he gives in the story is completely accurate (I checked/read both).

    I assume you are involved somehow with IU Baseball. I admire coach Smith for the impressive job he is doing raising the level of the program. Great work.

  18. DD, thanks for the response. I think you guys do a great job reporting. It is nice to know when violations occur. I personnaly think some people are blowing this thing way out of the water. Like I said earlier, making a mountain out of a mole hill. While there is a calendar with the exact date you can/can’t contact players, coaches are busy and will lose track of dates, times, etc. I work in a very fast paced profession and do the same thing on occassion. I dmit when I make a mistake and move on. My management respects people more when they admit wrong doing and learn from it. I almost lost at $15 million/yr contract because of a missed deadline. I admitted it was my fault and made up for it…and kept the contract. I’m not trying to stick up for CTC’s actions but some people on this blog and others that I read, in my opinion, need to take a step back and get a grip. The man made a mistake and admitted his mistake. We need to move on. Should CTC be held accoutnable, yes! But it happened, it was reported, and is now water under the bridge. Rather than hang him out to dry or call for his job (like some have done), stand behind him and let him do the job we pay him to do.

  19. Tsao – I respect your comment and do agree with a lot of them. When it comes to saying “I’m sorry,” maybe he follows the Gibbs rule (NCIS)…apologizing is a sign of weakness… At any rate, the violation happened (shady or unshady as it may be) and was reported. The coaches screwed up, knowingly or unknowningly. I still say we just move on…

    While not involved directly with the program, I support Coach Smith and IU Baseball more than any other sport at IU. I do this because I love the game of baseball, and becuase I know Coach Smith and respect and admire the job he has done with the program. Not only does he get guys to the professional level, his guys graduate, and he was a very important part of getting the new baseball/softball complex. IMO, he has done wanders for an IU sport that does not get much recognition.

  20. Tsao,
    Michel’s recruitment did not involve Tim Buckley nearly as much as Steve McClain, who had been recruiting him from Colorado. And you can check back on my story about that situation. That was more complicated than most. The trigger that ended his career were classes he took at his high school after he graduated that counted as college classes, which in turn started his clock. They were totally unaware of that until Michel started filling out forms. They knew there was a possibility he would have to miss some games because he had some experience with a professional league,but he never took any money, so they had no reason to believe it would cost him his career.
    I know where you stand on these things, so I’m not going to try to convince you otherwise. If you don’t think IU should ever try to recruit someone whose circumstances are not cut and dry, well, that’s your opinion. All I’m telling you is, from someone who got the explanation of the case directly from IU compliance, that was a very, very unique situation.

  21. I stand corrected, it was Coach Mc Clain and not Coach Buckley, thank you DD. And very sorry, Coach Buckley, my error.
    DD, not at all suggesting that we never recruit kids from other countries. In fact, I encourage it, it may upgrade the level of basketball as a ‘team’ game and, especially, on the defensive side. Several foreign countries have basically caught up to the US. Olympics rules and reliance on the team game make the players much more adaptive to the college game than many American high school kids who’ve been learning 1 v 1 NBA style basketball.

    What I would recommend is scrutiny over transcripts and, most important, since the Clubs use the age group system and careful due-diligence over amateur/professional issues. It was disappointing to all, especially Guy himself, that he could not play for IU.

    Good you spoke about this with Compliance…the issues over ‘college type classes’ affecting eligibility is a new one on me and kind of blow me away. It’s interesting because some AP type kids take ‘parallel’ classes in universities for high school credit in the US. I always thought the point was to insure ‘level’ requirements sought to insure [age] fairness of competition. Good research. Would be fun to pursue this further. It seems to me it would penalize smart, academically advanced kids of high school age. It raises the question, does it discriminate on the basis of age? And, would that violate the Constitution? Did you get a reading on their reasoning? Good work DD, that’s just plain good journalism.

  22. Next time one of you misses an appointment or you have the wrong date or time for a meeting imagine a mob calling for your head because of it. Of course, maybe that’s never happened to some of you.

  23. CHET–Its not missing the date certain– its the audacity to call it “an inadvertent mistake” which destroys CTC’s crediblity. I guarantee you every BCS basketball coach in the country knew the date. For $2.3 million a year I expect to know such an obvious date. If he made an error, he’s incompetent. Go ahead and defend him but it doesn’t compute.

  24. Chet- I hear ya’. If there is one thing consistent about sports fans and humanity in general, it is that we will always, always b$tch and whine about imperfections of leaders from our moral high ground.

    Listen to the Tea Party talk about Obama. Listen to the ‘Occupy’ protesters talk about ‘The Rich’. Listen to the fan of any poorly performing sports team talk about their coach. The rhetoric and attacks of these protests is so predictable, so consistently dumb and deafening, that any legitimate complaints become quickly lost in the muck of mud-slinging.

    The other day I was listening to Colin Cowherd – my favorite radio personality. He was going over recent “fan approval ratings” on NFL coaches. Fans were giving Andy Reid, a guy with a career record of 119-73, something like a 28% approval rating. ON the other hand, they were giving Chan Gailey, a guy who was 23-37 in his short NFL career, including being fired once – a 90% rating.

    His point was that sports fans lack perspective. He was right on, in my opinion. People need to get a life and stop wasting so much time assailing coaches. Get a fantasy football team, for crying out loud. THen, you can manage your own team and Tom Crean and Andy Reid can manage theirs.

  25. Whop called for whose head? Who called for whose head? Who called for whose head? Who called for whose head?

  26. “Sorry Update”, one hell of a point! Lord, that will make one reflect! Thanks!!

    Druish…you are right…it’s killing America. On this we are in total agreement. (By the way, I laughed too…It was funny. You have to be able to laugh at yourself).

    IU Baseball- Gibbs…my man!

  27. Tsao,
    It wasn’t so much a reading, but they brought a few of us in to the compliance office to talk with Julie Cromer the night they declared him ineligible for the season. Personally, I thought it was the best IU has handled any story since I’ve been covering the program.
    I got the impression that the classes were different from AP courses because he was taking them after he had graduated high school. There may have been some confusion as well about what constituted high school graduation. But obviously, AP courses don’t affect one’s eligibility. One way or the other, it was decided that his five-year clock started before they said it did.
    Where IU would argue with you is on what constitutes due diligence. They were aware, obviously, that there could be issues with his eligibility just as there could be with any foreign player, so they began working with the NCAA immediately upon his signing. That process lasted from the time he signed in either late April or early May until November because there was a lot of back and forth with the NCAA over appeals and such. Your counter argument would be that they should’ve known before they agreed to take a commitment. Based on what I got from them, I’m not sure it would’ve been possible. You might counter by asking, “So why take the chance if you don’t know for sure?” The counter there is that it’s nothing ventured, nothing gained. IU would’ve either had Guy or an open scholarship considering it was May and there wasn’t much left that fit, and Guy couldn’t have played anywhere else anyway. IU compliance made every attempt to get the NCAA to clear Guy, but once the NCAA refused they made him ineligible and made sure he didn’t play in any games as an ineligible player.

  28. This is a heck of an argument for transparency. Once I saw all of this, I do agree DD, there is nothing more IU could have done. I hope what IU draws from this is that the more forthcoming it is with all of the processe, the more likely it is that public will support its positions. Thanks a lot…in many ways this is a good story about the twists and turns of the NCAA guidelines and a bureaucracy being a bureaucracy. Thanks.

  29. It did link. Thanks. Rereading it, with more awareness of the NCAA process/bureaucracy while more aware of the impact, it now makes for fascinating reading. It really does lend itself for a good (young) investigative journalist; not so much to look at the outcomes (for athlete/university), but to try to examine the maze of rules details (and, I imagine inside influences) that impact/or loose relevance as the NCAA makes decisions.

    Again, thanks…fascinating stuff to think about. BTW, is your email the one listed. Do you check it?

  30. Wasn’t the hiring of Steve McClain contingent on the successful recruitment of Guy-Marc Michel? I would find all the intricacies of those discussions far more interesting than the processes/reasoning the NCAA used in declaring Guy ineligible. I’ve yet to read any editorial from a Bloomington journalist that attempted to discuss the sensibility in hiring an assistant coach based solely around the narrow window of success at landing a player completely off the radar. There had to be question marks. It had to be known the NCAA would closely scrutinize a name so unknown on the college basketball scene. There wasn’t even one video clip to be found of Guy playing basketball at the JC level. So much was unknown, but yet an assistant coach remains on the payroll though the main thrust of the deal, the 7ft tall behemoth post player that came with him on stagecoach from the West, never played one minute on the Assembly Hall hardwood. McClain seems like a good guy, but is this a typical practice in the desperate world of recruiting? Are we conveniently baffled and lost in the details of the NCAA’s methods/application of rules that foiled Guy’s recruitment because it’s easier than addressing the graft and influence in hiring practices that have nothing to do with finding the best candidate for the position?

  31. The hiring of McClain was never contingent on landing Guy-Marc. Where on earth does this stuff come from? McClain is a former D-1 head coach not some AAU huckster. We were very fortunate to get him as an assistant.

  32. It is easily identifiable that every assistant coach in collegiate amateur athletics is personally involved face to face in recruiting talent for his employer. So McClain and any assistant looking for a new gig would have something in his database that his new employer might want to look at. No doubt Coach Crean wanted McClain but I would bet Cook Hall McClain wanted to be at IU even more and G was not criteria for either. IU even during last year is a destination 2 steps above Colorado BB. `

  33. Sure it is but, by the same token if an IU assistant left to become a head coach at a school like Wyoming wouldn’t we be offering congratulations on his promotion?

  34. Sorry,
    It’s possible that Michel helped McClain’s cause and anyone can argue back and forth on his credentials. I might be more skeptical of his position if I didn’t see Crean and McClain together. They’re kindred spirits to an almost comical degree. I’m not sure which one’s more caffeinated. Whether he was the best guy for the job is a matter of opinion. But I can say with a fair bit of certainty that Crean, the man who made the hire, thought McClain was the best guy for the job, Michel or no Michel.

  35. I’m just saying that, while IU is certainly a better basketball school than Wyoming, I think it’s silly to say that being an assistant at IU is a better job than being the head coach at Wyoming.

  36. …agree with both of you(although I have to cipher awhile on the McClain/Shooter thing)…Still being HC at Wyoming would be #1 for SM…

  37. Dustin-

    Thanks for the response. I like McClain a lot and believe we maybe got lucky through the backdoor of a botched desperation attempt to find a big man just before the 2010-11 season. I think it would be interesting to know how the relationship between Crean and McClain began. Were they friends before McClain got the assistant coaching job at IU? Did McClain dream of an opportunity to come eastward and experience the passion of Indiana basketball? Surprised no one finds that topic a bit more interesting than the obscure application of NCAA rules that stripped McClain’s Colorado target out of his future candy-stripes. Isn’t McClain the more long term investment with greater influence and impact the overall success of rebuilding Indiana basketball back to its conference competitiveness than a former JC player that never showed enough hoops skill to be on one highlight reel?

  38. After reading CTC’s latest twitter about always telling the truth– I am flabbergasted. It just gets better and better.

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