Hoosier Morning

1. HOOSIERS HQ

Kofi Hughes now the de facto No. 1 receiver for IU, Dustin wrote.

Offense not a priority for Crean just yet, Dustin wrote.

Indiana women outclass St. Ambrose in exhibition game, Jeremy wrote.

2. INDIANA FOOTBALL

Stephen Houston is glad he ended up in Bloomington, Terry Hutchens of the Indy Star wrote.

Young Hoosier defense to match up with more conventional offense in Ohio State, Alex McCarthy of the IDS wrote.

3. INDIANA BASKETBALL

Avi Zaleon of the IDS gives five expectations for IU against UIndy on Saturday.

Ryan Corazza of Inside the Hall gives five things to watch in the scrimmage on Saturday.

Want to watch the exhibition game for free? Read this.

4. GREATEST PLAYERS IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL

Chuck Klosterman of Grantland.com ranks them, just two IU gusy on there, can you guess who they are



11 comments

  1. I haven’t looked at the Grantland list…I promise. My guesses for the two Hoosiers on the greatest college basketball players list?

    Isiah Thomas
    Dick Van Arsdale

  2. Oh, I get it…Klosterman likes 4-year guys..I knew I should have picked Scott May…Damn it. Alford? He makes the list because of a clutch Kieth Smart jumper. I would have picked Alford for best hairy legs in a pair of short shorts. John Stockton would be #1.

  3. Are you kidding me! From an IU standpoint, how can he leave off the all time leading scorer in Big 10 history, Calbert Chaney? With a healthy Alan Henderson the ’93 team adds another banner! Secondly, how can he leave off Oscar Robertson? His college career (averaged a triple double for his college days) was every bit as great as his NBA career.

  4. EE,
    Here’s the thing about Klosterman’s list, it doesn’t make that much sense if you don’t read Klosterman, which I do. Klosterman is not a sports writer. He is a guy who writes about a lot of things — mostly music and whenever possible KISS — who happens to be a sports fan and therefore occasionally writes about sports. Biggest two things to remember are 1) It’s an entirely subjective list 2) He wasn’t really ranking the best college basketball players of all-time. The following paragraph in the list of criteria takes a lot of players, including Isiah, out of consideration.
    “The individual’s college career must be more meaningful than his pro career. This doesn’t mean the player had to be a professional bust, or even a professional disappointment — the candidate could be still be the league MVP, win multiple Larry O’Brien trophies, and spend his summers playing Clue in Billy Hunter’s boathouse with Hubie Brown. It does not require anyone to be a terrible NBA product. However, the peak of the player’s career needs to happen when they’re working for free (or at least pretending to work for free). If an objective, informed fan hears this person’s name, they should reflexively associate that individual’s greatness with the idiom of college basketball. That’s the key — any theoretical pro career is just something semi-irrelevant that happened later in life.”

    That of course is the reason none of the following players — Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Bill Russell, Patrick Ewing, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaquille O’Neal, Oscar Robertson, on and on and on — are on the list. It’s not a real deal scientific, stat-based Top 50 list. It’s just a Klosterman list, and should be read for entertainment value and not as anything definitive.
    But two things. No. 1, having Lew Alcindor at the top is, as he admits, cheating. No. 2, Chaney probably still does belong.

  5. One of in his ranking criteria…

    “The individual’s college career must be more meaningful than his pro career.”

    I guess that explains Alford on the list and the absence of Larry Bird and Magic Johnson…and Oscar Robertson….and many others that had far more impact on college hoops than half the guys on his list. Steve Downing would seem to fit all his criteria…(Talent; unorthodox; more meaningful college career; collegiate). Without Downing(’73 Hoosiers) leading the way in the middle and a trip to the Final Four during Knight’s early days as IU coach, maybe IU basketball history is completely rewritten in the first half that decade. Indiana getting to that first Final Four at a time when Wooden and Walton were hoarding the limelight and media attention in the early 70s really opened the door for top recruits from Indiana and bordering states to set their sights on Hoosier hoops. We often give coaches all the credit, but there is always an unbelievable performance that propels the team into that next level.

  6. I was obviously putting my post together while Dustin was beating me to the punch in explaining the criteria influencing the list.

    Oh well…I still think Steve Downing should be on the list considering how important he was in helping Knight(considered by most as one of the greatest college coaches)achieve early success and notoriety on the big stage.

  7. Using his own criteria, two players would seem overlooked:

    Our own Calbert C., as mentioned, and

    The Buckeyes’ Jimmy Jackson. Jackson was an absolute monster, yet an absolute joy to watch, in college. A nice pro career but is nonetheless the epitome of Klosterman’s requirement that the player is memorable for what he did in college, rather than the NBA.

  8. Offense not a priority for Crean yet? Midseason would be a good time to roll out the offense, what’s the rush?

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