Smith says he’s not looking to follow Rodriguez to Arizona

Indiana co-offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach Rod Smith’s relationship with Rich Rodriguez goes back to his days in college at Glenville State in West Virginia when Smith was the quarterback and Rodrigues with the coach . He also worked with Rodriguez at Clemson, West Virginia and Michigan and was in Ann Arbor until Rodriguez was fired after the 2010 season.

So now that Rodriguez has been hired at the head coach at Arizona, the question was obvious. Would Smith look to follow his long-time mentor to Arizona?

Smith said no. He said he has not been in touch with Rodriguez since he got the job.

“I’m here,” Smith said. “I’m not interested in that. I’m more interested in coaching this game and keeping the bucket here at Indiana and giving these seniors the right sendoff as it is. I’m not interested in that.”

AUDIO: Rod Smith



  1. I must say…we have heard that before. when they have a QB /off coordinator hired then we can believe it

  2. I’m sure he means it for now. What else can the man say? But that could change when he receives an offer for more dollars.

    Interestingly, Rich Rod is not getting huge bucks at Arizona. Maybe a little more than Wilson is at IU, but not huge bucks! If that’s any indication, I don’t think AZ has the FB budget that will allow Rich Rod to “buy” assistants. Smith might leave IU for AZ, but he probably won’t be getting a major increase in compensation if he does. Of course, that’s easy for me to say. Who knows what amount it would take to get him to go to AZ. Difficult on the family to relocate after a year. And it’s HOT down there.

  3. Maybe…he’ll recognize that Wilson’s offer came at a critical time for him. . Maybe…he likes Bloomington and IU for what it is. Maybe…he thinks he can get more out of accomplishing something that will be recognized throughout his profession. Maybe…something can actually come out good for Indiana.

    It is hard, impossible…to be more down in the mouth, depressed and defeated than the collection of pessimists who seem to hang around waiting for tragedy…any tragedy… to hit the Hoosiers.

    A question, since some of you at least pretend to actually want something good to happen to IU. If you were a prospect considering IU and read this blog and your comments, would you come to IU? Maybe you are so soaked in the losers soap powder it is impossible to be hopeful. That…must be very sad.

  4. Tsao; easy there. I monitor two similar sights/blogs located in Phoenix and Tucson. The negativity expressed on those sites makes anything I read on The Hoosier Scoop look mild. In fact, reading those sites made me appreciate The Hoosier Scoop and most of its participants all the more.

    You want to read some really nasty posts written by some real negative losers, check out some other blogs for college teams that have had disappointing seasons. It’s like they try to outdo each other with negativity.

    Two other comments: 1) There are a lot of people out there that really hate Rich Rod. 2) There seems to be a lot of people out there that deeply resent the money college football coaches make. There are still some people on this site that express resentment for what IU pays Wilson, but they certainly are not unique. While the contrast between BL’s comp and KW’s comp was more stark, a lot of folks in AZ are expressing their displeasure over Rich Rod’s comp package, the details of which were made public today.

    But at least none of the Wildcat fans are suggesting Arizona drop football or drop out of the PAC-12!

  5. Podunker, I wasn’t necessarily referring to your statement…(though I was somewhat surprised that yours was a bit more negative than you usually post)…but read the comments before you…they practically had the guy out the door and mooning the Hoosiers.

    After a while the negativity wears on one. And, there are two ways to react…succumb to it or attack it. I still believe this can be done, will be done because we do have some very good people. Smith obviously has done a good job with our QBs and I’m hoping that we manage to keep this staff so Bloomington is more than a way-station.

  6. Podunker- no kidding, people do resent that in many states a college coach is the highest paid govt. employee. The director of a state university med. school, also responsible for running a university hospital, might pull down $800k. Think anybody working for Iowa govt. is even close to Ferentz’ $3,800,000.00? I don’t resent anyone getting the most that he or she can for services rendered, but it certainly seems absurd to me that coaches earn more than university presidents or Supreme Court justices.

    Recommended reading for how things got this way: “Stagg’s University. The Rise, Decline, and Fall of Big Time Football at Chicago” by Robin Lester. At least my other alma mater can claim its share of football lore.

  7. Davis, Lester’s book was one that was being constantly quoted and in entire pages by an alumni at the University of Miami who was sending 2-3 pages worth at a time to the Pres. of Miami, Donna Shalala. The book is really worth reading…

    The issue of the huge contradiction between what we value and what we say we value couldn’t be clearer (think of Penn State and the clout held by JoePa) but I’m not sure we’ll ever change it.

  8. While it is troubling in some ways when considering the salaries that coaches (any many others) earn, it is also capitalism at work. Just as RMK used to say, people don’t pay for tickets and donate money and buy t-shirts because of the English Department. College sports is a big business with a lot of cash at stake and those who perform well are compensated well. That doesn’t mean that I don’t agree that there is probably a larger conversation about the priorities of our society, but we have to take the bad of capitalism along with the good.

    Further and more on point, I always consider it somewhat tabloid journalism on the part of newspapers when they throw IU and Purdue’s head coaches on the front page once every year or two as the highest paid state employees. Of course, a lot of people get ticked when they read that. However, what is often not pointed out so clearly and some people miss altogether is (a) the previous point about the money they bring in, but mostly (b) that while they are employees of a state institution, their salaries (at least the largest portion of, if not all) do not come from public funds, nor from tuition.

  9. Tsao, it isn’t about being negative, it is about an interpretation of the man’s own comments. Did you see anything in Smith’s comments that referenced coaching at IU beyond the current season? He said he’s “not interested”, but we all know those words mean exactly zilch, and that goes for sports in general, not just IU.

    I’m not predicting he WILL leave IU, but I’m just saying that if his intent is to stay in Btown, he could have made the case a little more forcefully.

  10. The better IU does the greater the chance that an assistant will move up the ranks. Here’s hoping all our assistants are head coaches within 5 years.

  11. One of several critical success factors for KW will be his ability to stabilize and develop a subordinate staff, not unlike any senior level manager in any organization. I said in a previous post that a mass defection within the coaching staff this year would be very concerning. Now one person leaving, even two, not an issue; so lets hope Coach Smith’s departure (if he does in fact go) is an exception and not the beginning of a trend.

  12. Nice to see we have some loyalty on the staff. The places I’ve worked, those in management always on the lookout for “bigger and better” opportunities hurt the moral and projects they are working on for the current company. Those that are happy and decided to their current team always seem to make everyone’s lives better and breeds success from everyone.

  13. Tsao; I re-read my post #3 and I don’t think I expressed any negativity on this matter. Sorry it came across that way.

    As far as an assistant leaving IU, my philosophy is that change is inevitable. People will make changes and new talent will come in. One coach leaving is an opportunity to find a new talent. Just like a player, if Smith feels he’s better-off at another school, he should leave, creating an opportunity for Wilson to go out and hire a new talent, or promote a man from within, that has the ambition and energy necessary to accomplish the team’s goal.

    My concern about such stories is that there are too many people that would see Smith’s departure as another setback to IU football, as another nail in its coffin. Some IU fans have developed such a fragility, a deep-set insecurity about IU football, waiting for the other shoe to fall, that such news reinforces the negative narrative. (Don’t believe me? Go back and read some of the posts made after Gunner Kiel announced he was opening his recruiting again. You’d have thought the world was coming to an end. If the decision of one High School QB can cause that much consternation for a person, they need to reconsider some things).

    Tsao, with regard to the negativity, you have a third choice. You can 1) “succumb to it,” 2) “attack it,” or 3) IGNORE IT. I choose to ignore most of it. As the old saying goes, “don’t let the bastards get you down.” Why waste time and energy on such people? Life is too short. I appreciate your passion for IU Athletics and your optimism. But you have way too much horsepower to let the negativity expressed by a few pessimists, antagonists and losers “wear” you down. “A positive attitude is a force multiplier.”

  14. Podunker, I think your points are well taken. However, while most of us have faith in Coach Wilson’s plan to turn the program around, we need to be realistic. Thus far, we’ve been fairly besieged in negativity and to paraphrase HOOSIERS, we really need to see some sun shining on the dog’s ass! A coach leaving for a “better opportunity” is not a vote of confidence. It may be a rationale, but it is not a positive sign unless he was underperforming and I’ve never heard that. So, the question remains: are we on the right trajectory and need to continue to be patient or are we looking at another episode of failure? I don’t know but I’d sure like to see some sunshine around something one of these days.

  15. ^You disclosed quite a bit in that post – I now can
    estimate your age and political orientation.

  16. Complaining about the compensation of University football and basketball coaches is like complaining about the boundaries of the time zones. And in my honest opinion, it’s a bit hypocritical for ardent college sports fans to complain about this matter because people like us are the source of the “problem.”

    It’s our passion for college sports and our demand that our college teams be successful that creates the demand for smart, talented and experienced coaches that will produce winning teams. Since the people that are capable of supplying what we demand are in short supply, the cost for their services increases. It’s basic economics. We demand wins, few coaches are capable of supplying that (on a regular basis), therefore the cost to fulfill the demand goes up. Don’t complain about what a coach gets paid, complain about the underlying causes for why universities feel the need to pay coaches so much for their services.

    Successful DI football and basketball coaches can generate enormous amounts of profit for the Universities that employ them. Those profits fund most, if not all of the university’s other athletic programs, and some times they fund non-athletic programs. A lot of students that would not otherwise have the opportunity to get a college education do so because of the success of a university’s football and/or basketball teams and the revenue those highly paid coaches generate. I think that is, in relative terms, worth a lot of money.

    When a university starts losing money because of what it pays its football coach, then it has a problem and should reduce compensation. Otherwise, if the football or basketball team is generating a profit, the coach’s compensation is a reasonably good investment.

    It’s entertainment. Do we complain about what the most popular actors get paid? Do we complain about what our favorite musicians make off their concerts or their latest “albums.” If we don’t like what they produce, we stop buying it and they stop making money. Simple economics! Collectively, we the consumers determine what these coaches get paid.

  17. Proflunker speaks directly from the bong. Wilson makes more money than Lynch but brought the program lower. Sampson left with money in advance while Produmpster was conceiving this theory in a closet somewhere. Crean is essentially a walk-on with two years worth of contract extended before he coached a single game… We, consumers, don’t determine anything. Proskunker is just another form of spam.

  18. dear anonymous – That’s one way of looking at it. Or you could look and see that the previous coaches didn’t live up to expectations and were let go early and bought out for less that what they signed for. You can’t judge a coach on one year with players he didn’t recruit in a system they were recruited to play in. Crean is earning his money – PERIOD.

    Have some balls and put some kind of name behind your nonsense.

  19. Everyone bought Kindles and tablets and it closed down Borders. Barnes and Noble won’t last much longer. Damn greedy bookstore executives and publicists deserved their fate anyway.

    I’m not sure if sports can survive the distance they’ll eventually put between those that can afford to watch/attend and the greed motivator. We rely on the 1% that owns most of the wealth this country to keep our economy afloat…I guess there’s no reason to believe 1% can keep cable companies, college athletic programs, and professional teams afloat. At the end of the day, you’ll kill the overall public interest..Fans will stop attending games. Attendance levels will continue to drop and the passion to watch and participation will be lost.

  20. That should have read: “I guess there’s no reason to believe 1% can’t keep cable companies, college athletic programs, and professional teams afloat.”

  21. If it were nonsense I’d sign it: Geoff. But it’s not so I signed with the screen name I chose:  . Too bad you can’t read it (or write it). Geoff is a stupid screen name anyway! Rhymes with “deaf chef”… The point was that consumers or no consumers Sampson got his money and Promongrel has no idea what he’s talking about (no surprise there for sure!)

  22. Interesting… so HISTORICAL FACTS are nonsense… Please go back and find a single thing I have written on this site that isn’t true.



  23. Another one:

    Butler played 3 common opponents to IU so far.

    You’re lucky that math spam protection isn’t working, aren’t you?!

  24. are you seriously this stupid?

    Savannah State

    IU and Butler have these games in common so far. Do you understand what the term “common opponents” means?

    Why doesn’t your name show up – embarrassed?

  25. You’re good, but not that good…

    Butler and Indiana have played FOUR common opponents thus far. True, one game is on going (Butler playing Gardner-Webb right now, and the visiting Bulldogs are ahead) but still…

    Try to stay abreast, my boy, try to stay abreast…

  26. I am aware. I am also aware that “played” is past tense… not current tense.

    And considering that Butler is DOWN BY 15 at half time I am surprised you brought it up. Certainly doesn’t help your side of the story.

  27. Your hole is getting deeper… but in the immortal words of Judge Smails, “the world needs ditch diggers too.”

  28. Your hole is getting deeper…

    Well, then, you can stop digging now, sweetie. It turns out we won’t be needing it after all. But you did do a good job… why don’t you take off the rest of the day and tomorrow?

  29. Geoff, he merely wanted his name to match the content of his posts. Why bother to engage his silliness? There’s simply nothing there but poorly written snark.

  30. Podunker- I recognize my hypocrisy. I don’t spend time blogging about the IU English dept. Which is why the whole Penn St. thing is so illuminating and disturbing. We’re hoping that Wilson will lead IU to …. blind hero worship? Again, I don’t resent that a coach tries to maximize compensation for his services. And I don’t criticize entertainers like Oprah cause for the $$$ they earn ’cause I don’t buy their product. But maybe I should resent myself for actually buying into this whole college sports mania. It couldn’t exist without suckers like me.

  31. Chet – just sitting here watching hoops and waiting for wifey to get home so she can take over the remote and switch to X-Factor. We had a foot of snow today, so my boss told me to work from home. Got nothing better to do at this point…

    Snow sucks. back aches.

  32. Thankfully for me, my wife is as unlikely to watch that stuff as I am. I don’t get the appeal of reality TV but lots of folks seem to love it. One of our neighbors was runner up on ‘Survivor’ last year (Chase Rice). I tried to watch it. Made it almost through one episode.

  33. no kidding… the sister of one of my buddies was last one kicked out before the jury last season – Ashley Underwood.

  34. Indiana high school football is the worst in the country. Really, a good attourny could make the case that it is nothing more than child abuse. Coach Wilson wants more instate recruits, he can have most of them because no other program wants them. If someone actually wants the qb coach from wilson’s staff, which I find odd to say the least, let him go, there are plenty more incompetent coaches out there that need a job. Indiana is the perfect place for them. One last cheer for the 11 season,GO BAND TUBAS!!!!!!!!!!

  35. Chet, I was not pointing fingers at any one individual, but just generally commenting about all those college sports fans who are passionate about their college sports, especially football and basketball, but then complain about what the coaches are getting paid. I love college sports, especially Indiana sports. I recognize that in order to get the coaching talent necessary to build and sustain a winning sorts program, a university must offer a competitive compensation package to attract and retain talented leaders.

    It is very similar, if not identical, to the compensation system available to corporate CEOs. In essence, a DI football coach is the CEO of a “corporation,” only they use wins and losses instead of EBITA and stock prices to measure success. That corporation generates a profit, in some cases, enormous amounts of profit as a result of their success. In order to attract and retain a “CEO” that can maximize the profit, universities must offer attractive compensation (relative to other occupations). If they don’t maintain competitive compensation for their CEO, the CEO will leave and go to work for another “corporation” that is willing to pay more money, and in turn have him apply his skills and experience to improve their corporations performance. For the time being, we still live in a society with a “free market” system.

    Look at the profit that Ohio State’s football team generates for OSU. Look at the commerce that OSU football generates for the city of Columbus! Look at the jobs that exist because of OSU football. It’s HUGE money for a lot of people in and around Columbus, and the local economy. Look at the tax revenue all that commerce generates for the city and the state! That’s why OSU pays their football coach millions in salary and provides him incentives worth hundreds of thousands of dollars more.

    Just like with corporations, the problems come in when their is inadequate oversight of the CEO. When the Board of Directors and/or the Athletic Director fail to monitor the coach’s performance and fail to enforce the rules, the opportunity for corruption is enormous, and bad things start to happen. When BIG money is involved the temptation to break the rules is always there. It’s the Boards of Trustees that are responsible to make sure the coaches and ADs follow the rules. The current system is flawed, but it’s not coaching compensation that is to blame, it’s the lack of oversight and lack of enforcement that needs overhauled. Penalties for breaking the rules must become far more severe and long lasting.

  36. Podunker, I wasn’t referring to your post. I was addressing the chicken***t one with no name. He’s just desperate for attention.

  37. Chet, I responded to the one with no name the same way I do when I see a deranged homeless-person ranting and raving to himself in public. Try not to make contact and move on.

  38. Podunker- agreed that compensation is not to blame, but it’s a symptom. Our society places high value on Lady Gaga, action movies, and winning college sports teams; the free market correctly reflects that. But the bizarre thing about corruption in big collge sports programs is that it goes beyond the big money. No one reports the crooked CEO for fear of either losing a job or for fear of losing the cash cow. That may be lamentable, but at least it’s rational to participate in the cover-up for the sake of filthy lucre. But that financial incentive is not present in many sports scandals. Why do people who have no $$$ stake in the wrongdoing coddle the wrongdoers? As one victim said about why he continued his relationship with the Penn St. pedophile, “You just can’t say no to Coach Sandusky.” Why the #@*! not? Because so many people’s idea of their own self-esteem and self-worth are tied up with a winning team. “I wear a Whatsammata U. t-shirt, and Whatsammata U turns out winning programs, ergo I’m a winner!” Which is why university trustees who would never dream of cheating on their taxes or tolerate a professor who fudged his research look the other way when Coach Bubba is up to his eyeballs in slime.

  39. davis; you make very good comments. I was not thinking about any aspect of the Penn State mess in offering my opinions about coaching compensation. That situation represents an entirely new level of corruption since it appears that heinous felonies were completely ignored for years.

    With regard to “crooked CEOs,” these days, the scrutiny placed upon CEOs of publicly traded corporations is extremely tight, making it much more difficult for them to get away with corrupt behavior. The rules for Boards and Chief Financial Officers and Accounting firms have changed significantly in the last decade. Ignoring corruption is now a criminal offense.

    But to answer your question, “Why do people who have no $$$ stake in the wrongdoing coddle the wrongdoers?” the answer is that the majority of the people don’t want to get involved in reporting the wrongdoing for fear that their lives will be adversely affected. Those wrongdoers have a certain type of power, or at least have influence with people that have power. I think most people assume that if they say or do something, they’re going to go up against powerful people who can make a lot of trouble for them. And often, they are correct. In fact, have you heard the recent news about one of the boys that accused Sandusky of abuse? He’s 17 now and a senior in High School. Since his identity was leaked by someone (police or grand jury), the kids in his High School began severely harassing and bullying him to the extent that his mother had to remove him from the school. How do you explain that? The kid may have been a victim of rape and he’s being harassed and bullied in school for reporting it!

  40. Regarding ‘corrupt behavior’ of CEOs, the unfortunate thing is that laws have been twisted in so many ways that there is very little a CEO can do that is considered corrupt as long as, at the end of the day, the shareholders get their cut of the money. Federal laws that long forbade many corporate practices have not been enforced since the early 80s (the Sherman Antitrust Act, for example).

  41. for anyone to say that wilson has broght the program down is just rediculous. you have to tear things down to rebuild. you have to lay a foundation. quick fixes will not do the job. this will be a fine program in a few years. give wilson a chance. also, if a person comments on this page he or she should give a name.

  42. Totally agree. You have to tear things down to rebuild. The stupidity is to yell at the top of your lungs on TV and buildboards at the exact same time: “Win Today! Win Today!

  43. We should hope we lose to PU by 50 so we know Kevin Wilson’s tear down is complete. Let’s go 0-11 next year to make SURE there’s no old regime left. Wait, we really need to go 0-11 in 2012, 2013,2014, and 2015 to make sure we get rid of all this season’s red shirt freshman. Then, watch out baby! I know it’s the way to build a program cause I watched “The Junction Boys””……

  44. Podunker- you are right that people don’t want to get involved for the very real possibility that it might destroy their lives. And we give power to the destroyers by elevating them to supernatural beings instead of mortals who have flaws. I read some magazine op-ed piece that mentioned that it was laughable that Paterno “informed his superiors” about the allegations re: Sandusky. The reality is that as far as most Pennsylvanians were concerned, or at least among Pennsylanians who mattered, Joe Paterno had no “superiors.”

  45. People were making similar claims about RMK and IU at the height of his antics. For many there was an audible sigh of relief to know that there WAS a limit to what would be tolerated. It sounds as though there was quite a bit of dirt swept under the rug to benefit Paterno at the expense of many Pennsylvanians over the years. I’m betting nobody is feeling very good at that right now.

  46. Chet- Knight’s relationship with IU was certainly a case of the tail sometimes wagging the dog- and that could probably be said for a lot of college sports programs. It all goes to institutional culture. In Chgo. there is a scandal going on about a homicide investigation involving the ex-mayor’s nephew (he apparently punched a guy in tavern fight, the guy died, and the investigation seems to have been half-hearted). No one seems to think that the ex-mayor actually put the kabosh on the investigation, but it is widely perceived that the investigators deemed it to be in conformance with institutional culture to not ask too many serious questions. Instead of asking WWJD? (what would Jesus do?), people are asking themselves WWRMKD? or WWJoePaD? or WWPeteCarrollD? instead of doing the right thing.

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