Interesting Stuff: USA Today’s database for college athletics revenues and expenditures

USA Today just published it’s database on college sports finances, detailing revenues and expenditures and subsidies for fiscal year 2011. The schools detailed, are of course public schools and the ones subject to public records requests. You can view it here.

Indiana made $71,017,355 in revenue. Spent $69,314,511 and therefore was well in the black. Got a total of $2,686,769 in subsidies, which is either student fees, direct or indirect revenue. I’m not exactly sure where that subsidy money comes from or what it was for, but only 19 schools in Division I were subsidized at a lower percentage than Indiana.


  1. Wow. I didnt realise how much bigger college football was to basketball considering all the big earners are mainly football schools with the few exceptions like Kentucky.

  2. Kentucky is getting their money from football, too. People turn out to see their opponents in the SEC.

  3. That list made me appreciate the value of the Big Ten Network. Virginia Tech’s Lane Stadium is, by far, the best football venue I’ve ever been to, and I’ve been to a lot of them including all the SEC and Big Ten schools, yet IU is still ahead of the Hokies in total revenue. The BTN is a license to print money.

  4. Chet, Never been to Lane but have heard a little about it. Please expand on its positives and is it a model IU has similarities with and could emulate even more in the future. Pre-Beamer their FB program was much like ours and we should study their evolution.


  5. Indiana has no-$zero dollars- in either State fees or student fees. So see what the Athletic Department can tell us about “indirect and direct fees”.

  6. Just think what IU could do if people filled Memorial Stadium for football games and the women’s BB team becomes competitive! Given the past five years, this is encouraging news of all Hoosiers.

  7. Money doesn’t make for tradition and IU would have zero if it weren’t for those 5 banners hanging in Assembly.

    The state of Indiana would have zero national recognition in athletics(outside of some Olympic gold medals in Swimming from a guy named Spitz about 45 years ago)without the long storied tradition of their once incomparable, all-inclusive, high school basketball tournament. Michigan is a Micheal Moore flick about rusty auto plants and dying industries. Indiana is “Hoosiers”. It’s Oscar Robertson, Larry Bird, Bobby Knight, Damon Bailey, Virgil Sweet, Steve Alford, Steve Downing(Walton remembers the name), Wooden and Plump…It’s Muncie South and Connersville and Gary Roosevelt and Seymour and Lafayette Jeff and Plymouth and stories upon stories of heroics the young men forever becoming legends on hoops stages burned onto the memory cells their jaw-dropping displays of basketball skill in old pressure-packed stuffy gyms in all but forgotten towns without their mastery a round ball they’ve tamed to effortlessly rip nets to the delight of a crowd craving the food of a game Indianans addicted.

    B-ball put us in Hollywood lights far brighter any Friday night punt illuminated in the dark sky the main yardage-gaining play a Hoosier football team. The love for hoops this land filtered into the colleges. It filtered in decades before Knight came to Bloomington and was always a fertile crop primed for picking a knowledgeable coach that could build success around the oodles of pure basketball genes that flourished from New Castle cornfields to Gary playgrounds our Indiana womb. Despite the foolish abandonment of our one class high school system that allowed nearly 400 schools to battle for one ultimate state prize championship..despite taking all the unique flavor out of the ‘Madness’ that filled every high school gym in every corner our state during the first Tuesday, the first round of every sectional, the love of basketball across this land endures and survives.

    Bloomington would be a soulless limestone graveyard without the veins of hoops that found her tucked lonely in wanting a lost southern town. It is tradition in hoops that enabled the campus to remain prominent. It is the tradition in hoops that gives the place the extra injection of energy that separates it from just another college hippy town where the only draw would be pot-smoking professors still lingering about the streets from the days of Woodstock and Volkswagon psychedelic flower-child vans.

    Indiana is basketball. It is why Tom Crean could resurrect the program from the ashes. It is not Tom Crean that brought basketball back to Indiana. He helped infuse the process, but basketball will forever be in the blood this state long after Tom Crean builds his shrine upon the Village of Banners. Basketball never left Indiana. It was the NCAA and a bitter man named Myles Brand that attempted to build a wall around Bloomington to impede its natural filtration. This pimple of a Midwestern state still turns out a level of talent in hoops that is the envy of all mishmash lands of diluted interest in sports that have no true identity, a true love of the most perfect of all games as basketball in Indiana. Rival programs from surrounding states continually attempt to find their game-changers and difference-makers on their roster with Indiana’s top talent.

    I could care less if they bulldozed down Memorial and used the acreage to build the New Bloomington Church of The Tom Crean Nazarenes. Balance sheets didn’t Indiana on the map. Five Rose Bowls would be nothing but a loveless marriage in temporary wealth. Build your big house with no love if you so choose, it’s basketball that forever makes us the envy other states that can’t emulate the natural fit, a heart mended the sound of echoes a round leather ball thumping on planks of maple, and the piercing squeaks from starts and stops the rubber cutting hard to the basket, the old tread our tales and traditions, worn in song the memories our first pair of Converse shoes.

  8. Harvard,
    That’s really beautiful stuff, but pragmatically, IU still has to pay for 22 other sports outside of football and basketball. Football attendance would help.
    Beat Purdue,
    Already have a call in to Fred Glass on that. If you hit the plus sign on the chart next to each school’s name you get a more distinct breakdown of the situation and it says that IU has taken between $1.5 and $2.6 million per year the last five years in what is called school funds. It’s sort of a drop in the bucket on the total budget, so it’s way more self-sustaining than it isn’t, but it’s still interesting to know what that money is and what it pays for.
    Also truly fascinating is this. Since 2006, which I guess was the last time Indiana actually took student fees, they have taken in zero dollars in student fees in 2011, 2008 and 2007. However, in 2010 and 2009, Indiana took in $23 and $15 respectively in student fees.
    Read that again. Not $23,000 and $15,000. Not even $230 and $150. That’s $23 and $15. If I did my math right (and my calculator used the “e” sign, and I’ve sort of forgotten how all of that works) that means every student would be paying eight one hundreths of one cent.
    I can’t wait for the explanation on that one.

  9. Regarding Lane Stadium, well, to start with, it’s a physically nice structure. All the seats are good (it’s actually shaped much the same as our own place). Plentiful, clean concessions and restrooms. Interesting food (turkey legs!). Television monitors abound so you don’t miss the action if you leave the seats. Press boxes and suites are large and plentiful.

    But the experience…although they had little history prior to Frank Beamer the traditions are impressive and EVERYONE seems to know them.

    Defensively, third downs are called ‘key plays’ and everyone in the stadium pulls out their keys and shakes them while still screaming their lungs out.

    When the cheerleaders do the ‘Hokie Pokie’ everyone is involved.


    There are a bunch of those kind of things.

    The place is packed, always. I saw them play Northeastern a few years ago and ,though the game was a blowout, no one left before the game was over. It just isn’t done.

    Nobody sits on their hands, be it 7-7 or 40-0, ever.

    Some of what they have can be done with brick and mortar. The stuff that happens in the stands is where the real magic takes place.

  10. Let them play the 22 “other” sports…Bloomington is a washed up hippy town without IU Basketball. It’s the entire reason Seth Davis, Chris Korman, Hugh Kellenberger, and Ryan Kartje…and Dustin Dopirak(?) despise us and envy us. It’s why Bobby Knight remains bitter. They can’t understand the passion and long for it in their own hearts. End of story.

  11. Yeah, and we would all be talking about Astronomy and Anatomy without the resurgence of IU hoops. This blog would be a wasteland without IU hoops. The Herald Times would employ three people without IU hoops. Dustin would have never boarded a train from his Amish Pennsylvania farm to Bloomington without IU hoops. Tsao couldn’t come on here and slobber 10,000 pages over six months time about international soccer and a farce a football program without IU hoops. I wouldn’t get to listen to those wonderful stories of Chet’s dog and his trips to Maine. Husky Tom wouldn’t be on here to make us all envy his wonderful European vacations and the fine Italian sausages he buys from Salumi Meats in Seattle without IU hoops. Laffy would have assassinated Sarah Palin without being able to vent his anger at all all empty-headed Republicans without the wearing an IU hoops robe to justify all the spewing his hating of Jesus freaks and homophobes…..all because of IU hoops. Tuition at Indiana would be 50% less the heavy financial burden imposed on students without IU hoops. The Law and Medical Schools would lose their luster and there wouldn’t be near the student numbers on the campus to subsidize their existence without IU hoops.

    Where would we all be without IU hoops to justify our brilliance and worldliness? Get a life and get real. We are nothing without those 5 banners you take so nonchalantly. Journalists mock what they so long to have. “Tijan Forever” is the manifestation their shallow ridicule when we we were temporarily down; exemplifying their petty envy of the mystery and the passion that never dies for basketball at Indiana. They’ve burned it to the ground and mocked it but yet they can’t convince young men our basketball rich state to turn away from Bloomington.

    Kill basketball at IU and you’ll see how far they’ll flock to learn from our limestone halls.

  12. You want to see how much they talk about the “other” sports…Go take a visit to the IDS Hoosier Hype site. Go see how active there comments after doing away with their Basketblog site. They made the move to give all “other” sports an equal representation..The place is more barren in red than Mars. Tsao should go over there and talk of Lord Wilson, baseball, track, water polo, and Shuffleboard. Shouldn’t brilliance be able to build an audience? Go over to Hoosier Hype and see if a fat tongue of bullsh*t can turn Limestone into fairy dust that finds a willing ear. Good luck with that. Without IU hoops there is no chat to build your mountain of rat-a-tat-tat.

  13. Harvard, the problem is…you just don’t care enough.

    Lest we forget, the Dallas Mavericks would never have won an NBA title without the Kelley School of Business (i.e. Mark Cuban).

  14. Harvard,
    Yeah, pretty sure no one at all is suggesting getting rid of Indiana basketball, and no one’s suggesting IU basketball is not the most important thing in the program. All anyone is suggesting is that it’s impressive that Indiana can raise so much revenue and stay in the black despite not drawing much in the way of football revenue when its empirically obvious that as a general rule across Division I-A, football generates far more revenue than basketball. The insinuation is that if football reached a level of respectable success and filled Memorial Stadium on a weekly basis, the budget would be in better shape than it is, and considering that it’s expensive to maintain 22 sports, that would help the budget.
    Also, “Tijan Forever” doesn’t mean what you think it means, and I neither despise nor envy Indiana fans, but you knew that already.

  15. Go see how active their comment sections after doing away with the Basketblog site(the traditional site that used to be similar to Hoosier Scoop in its design and format).

    And how many smaller successful blogs(e.g. Inside the Hall, Chronic Hoosier) have spun off because of IU Basketball? See how long they exist if they attempt to cover the “other” sports one iota. We all know how far their self-proclaimed journalism careers would go without IU Basketball. Osterman gave it a whirl. He found out how much attention his fabulous writing received when not featured on a popular IU Basketball blog. Kartje will learn the same. Nobody cares..Why in the hell do you think his ego needed fed so much and he had to come onto Hoosier Scoop as a guest to steal time from Kartje? Nobody cared to follow him to the “other” sites. It’s IU Basketball that provides their stage. Hoosier Scoop is the best site providing entrance onto the stage.

  16. Everybody knows that Indiana is a basketball state and IU is the elite basketball program in the state. We need a bigger budget for football, then we can actually hire a real coach who knows how to recruit guys who don’t decommit (Gunner Kiel) and has a .500 season. How awesome would it be to have a .500 season regularly in football!

  17. On my dog’s trip to Maine…

    I made it as far south as Yarmouth/Freeport where I sat on the wharf and ate two (two I tell you) lobsters at sunset. May God have mercy on their souls.

    The next morning the rains started again so I drove in the opposite direction to get behind the weather front. Sorry I missed Portland. Thanks for the invite. Maybe next time.

    We landed in Saratoga Springs, NY, this time and my horse naturally won (Carly Simon, get it? Never mind…). Very cool place but a little expensive for this Hoosier boy. Downtown is like Kirkwood Street if it went on for 8 blocks in every direction. There are literally a dozen eateries within a block of our hotel and another dozen taverns. Plenty of other ways to spend money, as well. Zero tattoo parlors.

    There is a horse track and other stuff for the obscenely rich but even I can afford a cup of coffee and a sandwich with bizarre condiments (Cranberries? Really?).

    They really do have springs here. Every few blocks you’ll see a little pavilion with a free flowing spring. Neat.

    I had high hopes that some billionaire would meet Smokey and want to make him a star but no dice so far. I really can’t figure that one out.

  18. I like Cuban I think one of the things I like best about him is that all the stodgy old coots that own sports franchises not only loathe him, but they fear him as well.

    That, and the players love him.

    You do know the story, I’m assuming, about how his love affair with IU basketball made him very, very rich?

  19. Chet-

    I do love your tales. You know, your writing is quite beautiful and more than obvious from the heart.

    We had a beautiful Lab/mix named Smokey…Our first family dog we fell in love with at the Humane Society…unbelievably intelligent dog that could identify about 10 different toys when you would call for him to retrieve the one from behind a chair a demand to hunt down for some playtime. A very loving dog that had a unusual desire to protect the household not often found in Labradors. My wife’s heart is still broken the day we had to take him into the vet to end his suffering. I wrote a poem for Smokey.


    I want to take you for a nice long walk,
    But my leash can’t take me there,
    And munch your piece of morning toast,
    And all that you would share.

    I want to greet you at opening door,
    Hear your excited “Hi Smokey,” your voice once more,
    And wiggle my hips in that wildish way,
    Obvious it’s you I long my name to say.

    I want to answer your call, I want so much to come,
    Thump my tail against the sofa, play my heart’s drum,
    And then I’ll tell you in my deepest bark song,
    I’m so happy you wouldn’t let me suffer long.

    I want to place my head upon your lap and stop your rush of tears,
    The sorrow bleed out the hands that gently rub my ears.

    I want to calm your restless night,
    Your search for me in darkness air,
    Gaze back at you my endless devotion,
    That’s not an empty space you stare.

    For then you’ll know I’ve never gone,
    This place we gave each other,
    Your eyes I wish could see,
    It’s not goodbye forever,
    It’s ever after we’ll always be.
    My endless devotion

  20. oops..scratch the last line.

    Poem should end on “It’s ever after we’ll always be.”

    I’m done ranting(for today).

  21. Beat Purdue,
    Got to the bottom of the school funding situation today. It’s a long story that will be in the paper tomorrow, but the long and short of it is that the university pays the utility bills for all campus buildings and by USA Today’s methodology, the athletic department has to claim its estimated share of that utility bill as school funding. That accounts for $1.8 million of it. You can check out the rest in tomorrow’s paper.

  22. Harvard, you need to develop some other hobbies or ways to occupy more of your time.

  23. Lobsters in Maine without sharing beers and a night at the theater with Geoff and his lovely wife…? Sinful.

  24. Harvard, that was beautiful. Thanks for sharing. Smokey is my close little companion and goes just about everywhere I do, within reason. I even have a rig where he can go on the KLR (motorcycle) with me but I rarely put him through that.

    He did once take a 600 mile motorcycle trip with us, though, without a complaint. He’s just happy to go.

    Seemingly, everyone in Asheville owns a dog and, consequently, dogs get to go in lots of places. Most restaurants with outdoor seating are more than happy to have canine customers.

  25. Chet-

    Glad you liked it. Feel a bit foolish now for sharing it. Give your Smokey a soft pat on the head from Harvard. No companion more loyal..No eyes more seeking unconditional love and affection.

    I have a very long poem telling the tale of Michael Jordan’s unparalleled basketball marvels from days at NC to six championships with the Bulls. Wonder if Geoff would be interested…? Cubs poems, anyone? I’ll spare Podunker and the rest the Scoop readers(all likely on the verge of vomiting my amateur attempts at poetry). Chet has the ability to restrain the cold critique because he is a very kind man of principles far more solid than my own..He simply doesn’t have the heart to shut the foolish blowhard down.

  26. (As surprising as it may be to you Harvard), poetry has been a passion for me for more than forty years. (Your estimate of 10,000 pages only accounts for my Hoosier passion; though you and I disagree… basketball is the child of Hoosiers, not the other way around as you suggest). Either way… a fall afternoon with the smell of burning leaves and the last warmth of the sun, or the wet warmth rising from a high school hardwood floor on a February evening, a sign on a store on the Main Street of a town at the end of a road winding through cornfields… the sign silently pointing…’gone to game’… that’s a memory hard to erase. Sorry Harvard, that’s Indiana…”

    (Pablo Neruda probably saw that side of Lincoln in his Indiana home when he wrote his ‘Ode to the Woodcutter’).

    I repeat what I said before…you betray yourself allowing your anger to ignore your destiny (to write) (not a criticism; to the contrary…a friend’s frustration with you?).

  27. Chet – Yarmouth is a cool town. We almost bought our first house there. You were only about 20 minutes from my house in Raymond.

    Saratoga Springs is my favorite town in NY. I used to go there quite often for business about 3 or 4 years ago. Just a really cool vibe from April-October.

    On another note my brother moved to Asheville last weekend. My nephew has been there for a few years so he wanted to be closer and watch him grow up. He is waiting tables at a restaurant you may like – Travinia. If you ever eat there and are served by a young man named Matt, tell him his brother says hi and I love him…

    Also, you should request his section. He is a very conscientious person by nature and will treat you very well.

  28. I will if I make down there. I had to look up Travinia as I hadn’t heard of it. Travinia is in an area called Biltmore Park. I believe they called these ‘planned urban developments’. It’s not really that close to Asheville. It’s a, from the ground up, ‘mini city’ complete with a town square and all the amenities (including chains that wouldn’t make it in Asheville), like a YMCA, library, etc., of a city but 10 years ago there was nothing there but fields. With the Asheville spill over it has thrived and grown rapidly but it’s about 15-20 minutes down the Interstate from Asheville.

    I don’t really ever make it down there but, if I do, I’ll check out Travinia and Matt.

    I would guess (hope) that Matt is spending some time up in Asheville.

  29. Article in the Star lists why AD Glass disputes USA Today’s accounting #’s suggesting IU athletics is financially in the red. It is with great character Glass rises to the top when he goes about correcting a wrong about IU.

  30. Yeah, he said he lives about 20 minutes from work… I actually think he is in the Ashville city limits and his son is closer to Biltmore.

    I’ll give him your email. He knows about the Scoop although he isn’t a frequent reader or anything.

  31. Air Snowflake

    There once was a blogger named Geoff,
    A basketball guru with stale lobster breath,
    Hoosier hoops forever in his crimson heart,
    Found Maine in his sails in McCracken’s basket on the winds of a Keith Smart fart.

    Cross him on Scoop and he’ll flex his mighty brain,
    When it comes to chatting hoops,
    Don’t dare test his game,
    For all know Father Chet,
    Has christened him the undisputed Kaaaaang.

    In the Portland gyms he leads forever a fast break,
    the locals now refer to him as “Air Snowflake,”
    They say he barely missed a boat playing at the highest level,
    Now tearing up the Men’s League in a town just discovered the music of Aaron Neville.

    Buried in his basement are the remains of seven refs,
    One killed only a month ago for mentioning his breath,
    Five for bad calls, their quick whistles were to blame,
    And one for merely mispronouncing the simple spelling variation his uniquely common name.

  32. pUKe-

    What is rather amazing from the Big 10 recruiting rankings list you provided is that 14 out of the 21 kids featured on top 6 schools lists are from Indiana(Kevin “Yogi” Ferrell(, Jeremy Hollowell, Ron Patterson(, Hanner Mosquera-Perea, Spike Albrecht, Mitch McGary, Glenn Robinson III, Gary Harris, Patrick Ingram, Raphael Davis, A.J. Hammons, Ronnie Johnson, Mislav Brzoja, Alex Olah)….2/3 the incoming talent from Indiana!

    Though Tom Crean has done a magnificent job tightening up the borders, it is still Indiana kids that will likely give the Hoosiers her biggest competition.

    During March Madness I had a post highlighting the abundance of Indiana talent that was scattered about the many teams still surviving in the tournament’s Sweet 16.

    I guess this brings me back to pointing out how so much the passion and the economics of sports in the Midwest profits from the simple fact that Indiana is the epicenter for great hoops..and why those that envy our traditions(e.g. Seth Davis) from other parts the country strangely deny the truths in their petty mockery.

    What an unbelievable breeding ground Indiana is for top talent that provides many our own rivals outside our borders with key players their rosters(and let’s not forget how NC has bled Indiana for many years some of their prominent big men…until Cody). And where was Kentucky this season without their magnificent point guard from Pike High School/Indianapolis? Rather than saying “everything hinges on Cody,” it appears the strongest conference in the land and much the rest of college basketball hinges it’s success and viewership numbers as a direct result of this tiny hillbilly state. And now Kentucky, the fat tail that attempts to wag the true dog, dictates how they believe where college games should be played?

  33. I guess you could say it’s all “interesting stuff” how the true bottom line of college basketball relies considerably on the sustainable passion, our crazy love for the game, so intertwined the fabric of Indiana..How do you put that into balance sheets and expensive suits and ties a Greg Gumbel wardrobe on Selection Sunday?

  34. How was that, Dustin? Did I bring it back home?

    And may I conclude by saying Dustin is a very smart and talented young sports journalist that fully understands where his bread, his niche, is best perfected and buttered.

  35. Absolutely right Harvard. Indiana has so much talent it’s incredible! If we can keep the Mcdonald’s All Americans and top 100 talent at home we will compete for a national title every year. We did awesome this year in Indiana but it would be nice to of landed Gary Harris and/or Mitch Mcgary. Hopefully CTC keeps recruiting heavily in our state because the 2014-15 class is loaded!

  36. oops.

    …college basketball hinges its success and viewership numbers as a direct result of this tiny hillbilly state.

    Pizza Update:

    Went to Nick’s for Mother’s Day. Horrible. Pizza tasted barely above frozen box fare. Kitchen was filthy and Stromboli was below mediocre. The first strom brought to our table was cold. The other one they claimed to have dropped on the floor. Sorry, JPat…Place needs a complete management overhaul.

    Trojan Horse will be my only stop future visits to Bloomington.

  37. The Trojan Horse is awesome! You should go to Mother Bear’s Pizza, it is the best!!!! MOTHER BEARS IS AWESOME! Did I mention Mother Bears Pizza is awesome!

  38. I forgot to mention Trojan Horse was closed for remodeling. After the Nick’s mistake, that’s exactly what we said…”Should have gone to Mother Bear’s.”

    Is it still on 3rd Street and Jordan Ave?

    I’m a sucker for ample amounts delicious cheese. I also detest spicy thick sauces that disguise the simple elegance a perfect pie.

  39. pUKe, to answer your question…you are suffering from beyond concussion-like symptoms. You’re into the seriously needing a brain scan level. (It would likely show empty space other than the ear wax bouncing around inside. How in the h___ can anyone who has been following the consequences of concussion and concussion-like incidents refer to any athlete who has suffered these events suggest the concern is caused by laziness?

    It is apparent that you are continuing a habit of questioning individuals. For instance, calling Hartmann lazy and accusing him of not wanting to improve his game is just stupid. Your attack on Austin E. is equally insulting and just as simple-minded.

    It scares me to think anyone can actually confuse you with a Hoosier fan. You simply do not have the heart to know what it is.

    By the way…you can’t just change your name and come back on this site and write the same old personal attack garbage you were writing a year ago and hope no one will recognize you. Your style is unmistakeable, way too poor and idiotic for it to not be recognized. The scarier danger is that your thinking is so lacking some innocent blogger may actually become a UK fan just to keep from being identified with your ignorance.

  40. Sorry for being kind of nasty. Inside the Hall got mad at me for the same comment. I just am so passionate about Indiana University I get mad when I see a recruit in person that has a bad game(s). The poor kid has been having a difficult season it’s not his fault. Can Dustin or somebody remove my comments so that nobody else sees it?

  41. pUKe…just don’t personalize it and you’d be fine. You can be critical without slamming individuals unfairly.

  42. Alright. I’m changing my name no more pUKe is the worst! I saw him at the Fieldhouse a while ago and he was a non factor. He probably had 2 maybe 4 points. I live in Fishers so any time I can see IU recruits I do. I just get a little frustrated of seing Collin not contribute at the AAU level. Who cares though CTC can develop players. GO HOOSIERS!

  43. Harvard-

    Nick’s has become completely irrelevant for food these days in B-town, which has become somewhat of a culinary mecca for the midwest. So much of Nick’s food comes out of freezer bags from Sysco. The fries are the same they use at Burger King, I think.

    Meanwhile, stop by the Farmer’s Market in Bloomington on a Saturday morning, and you will see dozens of exciting new food vendors selling fresh, from-scratch delicacies; some stands represent hot new restaurants while others such as the Muddy Fork Bakery are out-of-their-home entrepreneurs making food how it’s supposed to be made.

    I support your decision to go to Trojan Horse. I think they still have plenty of integrity. Had their falafel the other day and it was frickin’ amazing. Crunchy and spice-filled, with a tangy tahini sauce and thinly shaved onion in a warm pita.

  44. There were numerous bloggers on Scoop that accused Christian Watford of being lazy. I always thought it was total mud-slinging crap. Much like labeling Hulls the worst defender in all of college basketball while ignoring his other assets invaluable to our successful season.


    Thanks for the suggestions..One of these days I’ll have to expand upon my limited favorites on the Trojan Horse menu. The falafel you described sounds well worth a try.

    My Trojan Horse Starting Five:

    5. Jalapeno Poppers
    (Super-sub off the bench: Deep-fried Breaded Dill Pickle Spears)
    4. Basket of Homemade French Fries
    3. Baklava
    2. Gyros
    1. Pork Tenderloin Sandwich(ordered with dry bun and pickles only… .I apply the ketchup)

    A cold bottle of Budweiser and a frosty mug and for 30-45 minutes I’m not the bitter and angry man Tsao describes.

    Is the Farmer’s Market just a couple doors east of Trojan Horse? Someday we’ll do Saturday morning coffee together at the Market..? Nah. Why ruin something that will never live up to the imagined? Plus, as you already know, I’m a shut-in.

  45. I’m not quite home yet from my Asheville>Ontario>Quebec> Vermont>New Hampshire>Maine> Virginia(as I type) sojourn.

    Many great meals. The obvious (lobster at wharf side in Maine), less so (sushi in Saratoga Springs), translated (pemeal and eggs in Quebec), the respected (prime rib in Stowe, VT), the easy (sandwiches from our cooler), the best (bar b qued chicken from my son’s grill.

    Great food comes from so many sources.

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