Ex-Indiana reliever Hoffman sentenced

Hat-tip to Zach Osterman of Inside Indiana for pointing this out on his board yesterday. Former Indiana relief pitcher Jonny Hoffman, who was arrested in January on felony possession of marijuana, plead guilty to the charge and was sentenced earlier this month.

According to Indiana court records, Hoffman was given a two-year sentence, one year and 180 days of which was suspended. He will serve the remaining 180 days in home detention while undergoing random drug testing and serve 18 months probation. He must also perform 100 hours of community service and pay $868 in various fines.

29 comments

  1. “20 pounds sent(from California to a Bloomington post office box) to him at a time”….?

    Hello! Holy Jamarcus Reefer Madness! And here I thought all distribution ended in Bloomington when the DEA broke up the Sampson cartel.

  2. Think I remember reading he had received either 230 shipments or 230 lbs in the mail, which came in the mail at regular intervals according to the postman.

    Either he had a growing clientele, or the amount explains why he couldn’t find the plate (or Sembower Field). For his trouble he gets to stay home for a little while and has a fine of some $900 for his dealing.

  3. 180 days and home confinement for FELONY possession?
    I’ve seen and read about people with far less quantity, receiving much more jail time. Mandatory minimum anyone?
    The criminal justice system needs a serious overhaul.

  4. Given the fact that pot will be legal within a decade everywhere – it is really stupid for anyone to go to jail for anything other than dealing to kids……. But that is just me. I live in CA and if I wanted to have some, I could literally go into a storefront in many towns and pick up what I wanted. Can’t really see the point what with drinking being legal and all.

  5. have to agree with the gymnast. nothing wrong with smoking weed. if it were legal in Indiana he wouldn’t have to have it shipped from ca. why hasn’t the govt made cigarettes illegal if they are to continue this charade of trying to protect us from ourselves? or alcohol?

  6. I too agree with gymnast. If he was selling to kids, that’s different. But everyday cigarette companies sell cigarettes “legally,” which are far more harmful to human beings than marijuana. Plus, we let Wall Street folks off the hook for their irresponsible behavior which helped drove us into the financial ditch, while we send users of marijuana, or small street corner dealers, to prison and become prisoners for life. It’s time for us to legalize pot and stop the failed war on drugs.

  7. Sorry, but I don’t want any dopers currently using around me. I’ve never smoked or did a drug. I sure don’t want to breathe it. I’ve kept myself clean, and picky on such issues.

    You need laws. Yes, they are not perfect, but you need a cut off point somewhere. Once we legalize pot, people will cry for cocaine. Once we legalize cocaine, people will beg for their LSD back. It never ends. Like a out of control snowball.

    My Mom and Dad were pot smokers, and turned out great. They did a great job with me, and I never touched it. I believe their is a consequence for everything you do. It’s not legal for a reason, mainly because people will tend to abuse it.

  8. The privileged SOB was selling an illegal substance to whomever had the cash. He got off too easy. I would have given him a 16 lb. sledge, a good pair of gloves and he would have been making little ones out of big ones in a Bedford quarry for 120 days. Due punishment cures many weaknesses of character.

  9. Ben – there really isn’t much evidence that what you say is true. Pot has been essentially legal for people with the means to get a “card” for almost 15 years. Heck, even your own experience doesn’t square with your thoughts. I know I am odd in that I approach the policy world from a trying to figure out empirically what the best set of policies are, which doesn’t fit so well with those who prefer to base polices on religious belief or cultural mores. But the fact remains that the only high correlation gateway drug is alcohol and that there is very, very little evidence that pot does much harm outside of the harm caused by the black market it currently resides in… and the enforcement of the anti-drug laws. And not for nothing, there is more cocaine on Wall Street than anywhere except maybe in the mountains of Peru (the country, not the city with the amateur circus).

    Hoosier Clarion – if what you say is true, why is the recidivism rate for those who enter the penal system in the 80% range? Obviously, some crimes need to result in people being removed from society because of the physical or property harm caused by the crime… How does that relate to selling a little weed?

  10. OIUG, MY point is focused on punishment as a deterrent not just incarceration. This clown will be right back at it after the wave, wink and nod he received.

  11. The 25 Greatest Stoner Athletes of All Time

    I like the fact that 2 UCLA grads and Phelps made the top six..LOL. Where’s a Sampson pot-smokin’ thug when you need one?

    Too bad we can’t include “stoners” to also be those that artificially jacked-up their games with performance enhancers and steroids. Not advocating pot with prayer in the locker room(though I sorta do like the visual of Jonny Marlin smoking a reefer while quoting scripture), but why are we so hung up on weed and not the truly abusive/addictive stuff that is ruining all of sport: the athletes forever living in denial along with many fans that simply have conceded the big names are merely scapegoats and it’s all just part of the game..?

  12. Ben – While many other posters can tell you I have as much of a temper as the next guy, I think we should make our decisions about laws based on objective, empirical evidence. I am not advocating that anyone smoke pot, just that we don’t need to use the power of crime and punishment to regulate its use. I don’t think selling a little weed is something worth messing up a young man’s life over. I just don’t see the upside. And when you dig into the origins of the pot laws, you start to understand that it really was originally and currently a way to institutionalize racism – and I hope we can all agree that that ain’t okay. I appreciate your response and I don’t see that there is any reason at all to get personal about this – it is simply a discussion of our policies in regards to this plant.

    I will also say that a classmate of mine at IU received a 22 year sentence for “cultivating” – which amounted to one plant in a sub-basement in Indianapolis. Obviously this experience colors my thinking. This young man was 23 years old and didn’t get out until 6 years ago – which was 7 years early. He may have been able to harvest 6-8 ounces and was a IU grad with a 3.5 GPA who had a bright future.

    I also play some music – and have been playing in bars all over the country… at least Indiana, the Southeast and California. When I play in bands that do a lot of shoe-gazing crunch granola jammy rock, nobody fights and nobody throws bottles or anything else at the stage. When I played in metal bands and cover bands where there were a lot of people who drank too much, the opposite was true. While a life of chaste prohibition may be ideal, it isn’t a lifestyle that is adopted all that often. Given those facts, I have a hard time supporting even a slap on the wrist.

    And Clarion – some 85% of the people who enter the system, one way or another, continue to have problems with the law for their entire lives. It seems to me, based on the empirical evidence, that our “war on drugs” caused more problems than it ever solved – and now that I have a son, I don’t want him spending his life stuck in that system for something that almost everyone I have ever met avoided for no other reason than blind luck or affluent parents. While I am sure you are a paragon of virtue – I imagine that you, like most Hoosiers, have driven a car a little past .08 and that you may have had a drink or 10 under age – and I bet if you went to IU you at least had a few friends that shared a joint now and then. As I tell my CJ and police friends all the time – if they were doing it right, the people that entered the system would be productive members of society when they left… And that just isn’t what happens. We are doing it wrong.

  13. If your gonna sell/distribute it, then they ought to extract a fair amount of taxes from your ass.

    There’s the punishment for your liberal bag of balance beam wind. Give back the 40% the rest us poor slobs have to pay on an honest stagnant wage.

  14. Good post Harvard. Sadly, many of our athletes are addicted. Nobody knows who plays fair, and who doesn’t. My belief is we must punish/fine these people who offend. Many of the fines/suspensions are jokes. Like a glorified vacation.

    Until the United States gets serious on addictive drugs/enhancers, we will continue to be plagued by cheaters. Sometimes you can tell by the bodies. Look at Sammy Sosa during his early days, then look at him during the “Slamming” Sammy years. You can tell.

  15. Another victim of the drug war and failing prohibition policies. And, yes, Ben, it is illegal for a reason: law enforcement/counseling/probation/etc is addicted to the money. HH, if it were legal and regulated, we could better control who sells it, who buys it and tax it heavily. And, don’t worry, if he had any cash, car, assets, etc., your government will steal them from him.

    Best of luck in the future, Jonny! Since these unjust, draconian laws caused you to lose your scholarship and a felony conviction will prevent you from receiving student loans, I hope you can afford to finish college. I wonder what you will do to make money if you are unable to earn a degree….hmm, what a great system.

  16. I understood Clarion- there is just no evidence what you say is true is true. Harvard – I think it should be taxed and regulated like alcohol. Outside of Ky and Tn when was the lat time somebody had a still wrecking a national park? When was the last time some gangsters shot up a neighborhood over the whiskey trade? And not for nothing Harvard but at even my advanced age I doubt you could hang with me in any sport…. Every knucklehead I have ever known to who called me a girl or questioned my manhood because I did gymnastics ended up crying about me kicking their but on the football field or in a pick up game. I doubt you are any different. And I bet you think the drug warriors are defending your liberty……

  17. Our government spending billions of dollars over decades to fight a war that cannot be won, that creates resentment and disrespect for law enforcement and the rule of law, that deteriorates the effectiveness and ability of law enforcement to investigate and prosecute actual crimes, that disproportionately effects minorities and the poor, that blocks viable medicine from those who may benefit from it, that creates the opportunity for corruption in several places, that has helped create a paramilitary presence in every town in order to forcibly put millions of citizens in cages for harming no one, and on, and on, and on……these do not float my raft.

    The biggest disconnect I see in those who are against legalization is the misconception that the law actually deters anyone from doing it. It’d be one thing if the law was draconian and worked by actually preventing people from smoking- then we could simply talk about whether marijuana is good or bad. However, the laws don’t stop a damn thing, they’re draconian, they fail miserably, cost boatloads of cash and create a whole new set of problems. In a bigger picture, it isn’t just about marijuana, but it’s about the government lying to us and ultimately, about government and human failure.

    But, I hope those scary press releases give you a false sense of safety.

    And rant over, I’m sure we can agree on being excited for 15 days from now…feels like football weather already!

  18. Marijuana is safer than alcohol, and it is not even close. Cocaine is safer than alcohol too, but I digress. LSD is safer than alcohol, but again, I digress. Outside of heroin and some prescription drugs, alcohol is one of the most dangerous drugs humans can take. Prohibition failed miserably, but if there is any substance that should be made illegal, and kept that way, it is alcohol.

  19. Wisco is correct, it’s about funneling money.

    Look at the money trail in Arizona. For profit prison funnel money to sheriff’s and judge’s election campaigns. With the advent of these for profit prison the now bought and paid for judges and sheriff’s suddenly start arresting and handing out stiff prison sentences where probation had been the norm. The for profit prisons make a bundle a recirculate the money.

  20. In college I smoked some pot like everyone else in the ’70s.

    Then I went into the military and stopped. No big deal.

    When I returned to civilian life, once in a blue moon I might have taken a puff with some old friends while camping or some such thing. It was fun and I didn’t have anyone’s life in my hands any time soon. I don’t drive or ride or, frankly, do anything that might harm another with anything recreational on board. It’s just not worth it

    As for safety, well, yeah, alcohol is probably about the most dangerous drug in the big picture (I have an extensive background in several areas of medicine). I wouldn’t give cocaine any safety awards, though.

    I worked at the University of Colorado Med Center in the 1980’s when affluent yuppies were taking snootfuls before hitting the slopes. You would not believe the number of heart attack and stoke victims under 40 (quite a few under 30) that I used to see. Many died, more were just gorked for life. I lost 3 friends in a 18 month period. Affluent, college educated professionals, more often than not conservative, individuals with families. Their heart or a favorite blood vessel couldn’t handle the turbo boost.

    I’ve always been an opponent of the ‘war on drugs’ because (a) it was idiotic in concept and implementation (not too mention being extraordinarily racist in implementation but I was the ‘right’ race), and (b) it was mostly a scam to divert tax dollars. Nobody’s ever been able to spend, and channel, tax dollars quite like Mr. ‘Small Government’ Ronnie. He set he bar.

    That being said, IMHO, based upon my personal experiences, if there’s such a thing as the ‘Devil’s drug’ or any other melodramatic, hyperbolic term you want to assign, I’d give it to cocaine. Short of a gunshot there aren’t too many recreational activities that can take you out quite as quickly.

    But I digress. The bottom line is, drugs should be a medical issue. Much like alcohol during Prohibition, our wise leaders turned it into a criminal issue. Then they came up with for profit prisons and made their invented crimes a business matter.

    Let’s quit funding crime…even the legal kind.

  21. Well, I guess we can all agree to disagree. As Wisco said, football is coming soon. Done with this thread. Off to work.

  22. Smoked weed? Grew it..Harvested it in my parents garden…Dried it in their crawl space….Crumbled it…Drove around town with it stashed on the floorboards my first hand-me-down car(contained in a rather generously sized Hills Brothers coffee can)…Rolled it…Smoked it…Never touched it much again since the age of 16.

    Bill Walton was a stoner. Steve Downing was simply high on life. To each is own.

  23. …fairly balanced thread…if you use or have used you want it legalized…if you don’t or did not you don’t…

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