Hoosier Morning

1. HOOSIERS HQ
The Indiana men’s soccer team put a frustrating start to the season behind it with a 2-0 shutout of Ohio State in the Big Ten opener, Andy wrote.

IU women’s soccer was competitive in a 4-1 loss at No. 8 Penn State, we reported.

Chrome and Crimson helmets make the Big Ten best list, and Indiana sits No. 10 in the conference power rankings, Andy writes.

2. IT’S INDIANA
IU basketball has a method to its recruiting madness, Pete DiPrimio of the Fort Wayne News-Sentinel writes.

Counting the days until Hoosier Hysteria is a rite of fall in Indiana, Connor Killoren of the Indiana Daily Student writes.

3. ONE FOR THE ROAD
Celebrate the madness and countdown to Friday’s Hoosier Hysteria with “Madness” by Muse.

16 comments

  1. Great day for IU football on Saturday…No loss today plus after Purdue played IU did not play worse than them.

    Western Kentucky had no problem with Navy offense.

    IU did same type analogy with Syracuse zone in BB tournament….just talked about zone and was non competitive….all you heard about was Navy offense with same result, defense non competitive against Navy offense.

    7 or 8 win seasons = means 3 or 4 4 star recruits needed for football in respective positions in each recruiting class.

    BB is about 80% back, but needs to get 1 or 2 5 star recruits in each class plus 2 or 3 high level 4 star (86-89) recruits in each class….North Carolina, Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Syracuse and a few others are out recruiting Indiana currently….one more big ten championship, plus big ten tournament championship, plus NCAA tournament championship needed ASAP…IU should not rebuild but always reload except once every several years….then IU will be 100% back in BB.

  2. Pat McAffe to emcee Hoosier Hysteria.?

    Why? Who? What’s his connection to IU?

    So much for ‘tradition’ and ‘it’s Indiana’.

    Vic not available? Or anyone with IU connection?

    That sucks.

  3. t, I made the same point about WKU handling Navy’s “difficult” offense. It now appears that label was a bunch of garbage and that Navy’s offense was not the issue.

    When you say IU basketball “is about 80% back,” the question is “back where?” Back to winning NCAA Championships, back to being a perennial contender on the national stage? What constitutes “back” to you?

  4. IU will be back when they win in the next 2, 3, or 4 years:
    At least one National Championship is a must….another big ten conference championship and big ten tournament championship…not necessarily in same year….plus another elite 8….final 4, recruiting on same level of North Carolina, Duke, and Kansas every year…. more dominant…

    Last year I felt after IU was scouted some and later in season VO was shut down from freely dribbling and making plays plus no respect for mid range shot for Cody. IU failed to prepare during whole season to adjust and develop Zeller a mid range shot.

  5. You can’t judge any team by one game. And if you continue to judge Wilson’s staff and IU football in the 3rd year of building something from comatose, you’ll be the judge your own death sentence.

    Again, this isn’t basketball where one or two “everything hinges” recruits can catapult your team, change the entire local recruiting landscape, and take you from a middle of the pack Big 10 team to a top echelon squad almost overnight.

    Navy could have had a “let down” game against WKU…

    Did anyone watch the 49ers two weeks ago? Are the 49ers that bad or are the Colts that unstoppable? After the Bears shellacking at the hand of the Lions yesterday, should the fans now reconsider bringing back Lovie Smith?

    We ask for coaches heads so frequently anymore…Yes, it often works. But why does it necessarily work initially(the first years the new assistant or head man that comes in on the heels another coach’s rebuilding efforts)? Because often the guy getting fired has left the incoming coach his next level of stronger talent and a maturing team that was within a very short window of getting over the hump.

    Indiana is getting closer to breaking through. You can feel it in a product that is far more full of life than anything to my recollection a program that just lacked sideline energy.

    There will always be upsets. Sometimes it’s difficult to absorb the heart of positive change when the anomalies of losses where wins are assumed and big upset victories where defeats the expected prognosis can confuse and distort the perceptions of latent and positive momentum not always indicative by final scores.

    The progress at IU football will come from the confidence we attach to our cheers. To play coach Wilson and ask for heads at the end of the season seems to only sabotage the faith in the man we all claimed was our best shot at turning a long and lifeless football program around. Let the head coach decide where accountability begins and fails amongst his own hires rather than act the hungry Pit Bull and gnaw at the underbelly and undermine.

    I’m beginning to think there is something about Wilson that is threatening to certain so-called fans. I wonder if it’s an insecurity that was very similar when Kngiht used to run Hoosier basketball? He won’t take crap and we’ve already seen he’s confident enough with his vision and rebuilding time tables to not accept cute reporters that want to make IU their outlet for jokes and ridicule. I see these doubts thrown at his staff as calculated shots to soon be going after the the man in charge. It’s seems a very seedy and backstabbing way to turn the hopes into questions pertaining to Wilson’s judgment in personnel.

    What will be gained by undermining his judgment and building more revolving doors where heads role at our whim?

  6. Not judging IU or Wilson for one game….that is just one example of many many many games over the last 60 years….and one example of several over Wilson’s tenure…even though I feel IU should keep Wilson for the full length of contract and see where you are at or what you end up with.

  7. t-

    I’m simply saying that you can’t always extrapolate what happens to a team that takes you down one week and then loses to a perceived lowlife team in a week or two after. Nobody like letdowns, but it happens for ALL teams in ALL sports. Momentum is very difficult to bottle and explain. Once any team gains confidence with some early success, things can snowball quickly as teams go in polar opposites their mindsets within those momentum swings. A timely turnover can change games. The absence of a couple big plays or timely turnovers can make scores into much more lopsided affairs than the truth in far less discrepancies in talent brought to the game.

    Let’s see what Navy does with their entire season rather than use a poor performance against WKU as a reason to get even more disheartened with the high mountain IU football must climb.

  8. It does not sound to me like any of you fellers know the QB for the Midshipmen went down for the game with an injury in the 1st quarter of the WKU game. In the option offense as they run it, that is, “end of game”. Makes understanding the outcome of that game simple.

  9. Harvard- Your #5 also captures the essence of the problem. Why does Wilson’s vision, presence and approach threaten; because it exacerbates their insecurity and diminishes their self-awarded importance.

    Just as Bob Knight did when he arrived and changed the way the Hoosiers played basketball,insulated the program from the pressures of their ‘BMOC Syndrome’ self-perception while publicly dismissing their knowledge and intellectual capacity for the game itself (yes, basketball/football/soccer require an intellectual and cerebral approach which is beyond the capacity of most), no matter how many IU Adidas warm-ups you buy at the bookstore).

    I still remember the cries of ‘b-o-o-o-r-i-n-g” from the stands during Knight’s first year, or the predictions of doom for his ‘man-to-man’ only defense based on weak-side help and his initial ideas on the ‘motion offense’ that required passing and cutting to the opposite side of the court. Or his ‘seven pass minimum’s before you even considered a shot…and then, it better be an 80% lay-up’ mandates. (roll-eyes as someone would say)

    I find some revealing and important parallels between RMK’s and CKW’s approach to their respective games. Many never forgave him for it. It violated the sense of entitlement to ‘run and gun’ they had been brought up on. I’ve had a lot of fun this spring and summer reading many of the articles, conferences and talks on the intricacies and details of ‘the modern passing game’ strategies CKW trail-blazed at Northwestern and Oklahoma, (along with Washington State’s Mie Leach and other coaches). I can not even conceive a man as intelligent as CKW would ignore the role of defenses as part of its structure. It will be fun to watch the entire thing develop, as we did Knight’s revolution of basketball and the usual ‘Thomas, the Train Engine’ could.

    But, I’ll admit, I always thought it would take a little time. Still, unlike some, I understand that slower, deeper, transforming satisfactions are much preferable to quick, one and dones.

  10. The issue is not Wilson. At this time, the issue is IU’s defense. I get the sense that Wilson, like many offensive coaches, delegates the management and development of the defense to Mallory. It may not be a total hands-off policy, but in relative terms, IU’s offense, which Wilson is clearly more involved with, has played well since he became coach. Wilson may become the problem if, for whatever reason, he does not figure out how to field a competitive defense.

    By the way, did anybody notice that UConn fired their head football coach, Paul Pasqualoni yesterday. After starting 0-4 this season and getting blown out by Buffalo on Saturday, he got fired a third of the way through his third season as UConn’s head coach. How interesting that UConn, hardly a school with a deep tradition of winning football, is yet another school that apparently refuses to tolerate losing and is not afraid to make a change when performance is below expectations. But hey, what do the administrators at UConn know about winning athletic programs, right?

  11. More and better talent is the answer. It is safe to assume in my eyes that the only player we have starting on D that could also possibly start for any of the top 8 BIG is Bennett. That highlights the talent issue being addressed in every recruiting class in the past 3 and forward.

  12. I could be wrong, but haven’t we seen a lot of teams(in college and NFL)struggle to keep there points allowed numbers down?

    Again, look at the points the Saints put on an undefeated Dolphins team last night. Aren’t these NFL teams supposed to have the best of the best in terms of defensive coaches and college talent?

    Seems like the Seattle Seahawks are the only team currently in the NFL that plays defense with the same intensity and passion as when their offense is on the field.

    Is the trend also present in college football? Have the fans somewhat created this trend. Are we increasing the pace, spending more time developing the skills on the offensive side of the ball, because there is an impatient viewer of sports today(or, possibly a less sophisticated fan base)that equates an entertaining game with high-output offense and multiple scores? Do fans get bored with games won in the trenches played between the red zones with back-and-forth punting and limited first downs?

    Maybe it’s just me, but when’s the last game you can remember where both teams on the field played very strong defense? I see a lot of scores that are either big numbers on both sides or one-sided blowouts. Has our impatience in everything else we do(multiple changes in our career expectations, surfing through hundreds of channels on our television. jumping from song to song on the thousands of choices our i-phones, shooting out tweets, the quick text message)influence our need for fast action(meaning fast points)in our diet of sports entertainment?

    Are our tastes influencing the obsessions with the aspect of the game that shows up in the big number on the scoreboard rather than passions required to appreciate low scoring games? Is there a point where offensive talent and speed in the game begins to win over even the best defenses? Are we entering an era of athletic evolution that can’t be matched equally on both sides of the ball?

    Just a few theories…Would the product sell without our obsessions with how many yards Peyton Manning will throw for this year, etc..etc..etc. Did I hear someone say that it’s conceivable he could throw for 6000 yards in one season? Who gives a crap about defense?

    Are the Seattle Seahawks of 2013 the closest thing will ever get to the defense of the ’85 Bears? Shouldn’t we all be collectively embarrassed that Pete Carroll is the head man at one of the top defensive teams in pro football? Of course, they haven’t played the Denver Broncos yet…I digress.

  13. I keep going back to turnovers. It’s such an equalizer in football…A team can dominate another team and embarrass a defense, but the timely turnover can immediately erase some of that dominance. Generating take-a-way’s becomes even more important when you’re losing some of those battles in the trenches because of youth, size, adjustments to learning a new speed in the game, adjustments to new opponents with far deeper rosters, etc.

    How are the Hoosiers rated in terms of turnovers/interceptions/take-a-away’s…? Even when the numbers are stacked against you and offenses seem to steamroll down the field, it only takes one big play in the secondary, one strip of the ball, one blindside hit on the QB, to change a possession, create the quick equalizer, and turn the tables your chance to score(get your high-powered offense and cannon-arm QB back on the field).

    I notice a lot of bloggers talk of our size deficiencies as it relates to a lot of Big 10 teams…No doubt we need more size up front, but speed and anticipation and reaction are so undervalued in looking at body size on stat sheets. One of the top takeaway guys in the NFL is the small “Peanut” Tillman on the Chicago Bears. There are intangibles in the game..And speed…strong hands and quick reactions to the ball are where our defense needs to dine while we continue to search for the big beef and build depth. Getting back the ball need not be from a three-and-out…It doesn’t always boil down to size and wholly stopping the run. Sometimes not stopping the run through the first level of defense puts a ball carrier in his most vulnerable position.

    Hoosiers gotta force more turnovers…Gotta get hungrier for the ball as well as build it big and tall.

  14. 4 star football recruits needed….3 or 4 4 stars each year mixed in with 3 star players….in 5 years over half your team on the field is in the 4 star category…..An improved 4 star player is still usually better than an improved 3 star player (well coached 4 star players are the bigger, stronger, quicker, faster, etc better players with more potential as to where they level off or continue to improve)=7 or 8 win seasons (last year IU did get a few 4 star players, but they have to follow it up year after year)….or they will struggle to win 5 or 6 as in the past…one excuse and hype after another.

    all 3 stars and lower would work in lessor competition and conferences but not in your 3 or 4 best conferences and usually including a major + a couple competitive solid pre-conference games.

  15. We must take the inspiration of the 2013 Indiana University musical theatre group and sing their hope of the future into our Hoosier Football pride and spirit.

    “It’s so clear, every year we get stronger…”

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