IU adds Illinois State transfer Zeisloft

Illinois State guard Nick Zeisloft is transferring to Indiana after averaging 6.9 points per game last season. He already has a degree in finance and is eligible immediately. He has two years of eligibility remaining. The release from IU follows.

Zeisloft Will Bring Leadership, Experience, Shooting to IU Program

Bloomington, Indiana—Indiana University men’s basketball coach Tom Crean has announced the addition of graduate student Nick Zeisloft, a 6-4 guard who earned a degree in Finance from Illinois State, to the Hoosiers roster.  He will have two years of eligibility.

“The addition of Nick allows us to spread and space the floor even more and play with more pace,”  said Crean.  “More importantly, we are adding a young man that has been raised well and has been well coached throughout his career.  He brings a physical and mental toughness that has allowed him to play at a strong level and brings leadership and maturity to our program.”

Zeisloft played two seasons for the Redbirds and was a career 37.3 shooter from three-point range.  He made 60 three-pointers last season and shot 41.8 from long distance making 28 of 67 from three-point range.  He also is an outstanding free throw shooter making 90.0 from the line last season and takes care of the basketball with a career assist/turnover ledger of 50 assists to 28 turnovers.  He was a team captain and was a First Team All-MVC Scholar-Athlete last season.


“I am very excited to have the opportunity to play for Coach Crean and the Indiana Hoosiers,” said Zeisloft who earned a degree in three years after redshirting in 2011-12.  “IU’s tradition is like no other and I am honored to have the opportunity to further my education in the Kelley School of Business.”


Zeisloft is from La Grange, Illinois and attended Lyons Township High School in 2011.


“The fact that he wanted to be in the Kelley School graduate program says a lot about his strength of character and his excitement to be a Hoosier.”


With the return of junior Yogi Ferrell who led the Big Ten in three-pointers per game and what is perhaps the best shooting class in the Class of 2014 with the addition of James Blackmon, Jr., Robert Johnson, Max Hoetzel and Tim Priller,  IU will look to build on its three-year major conference leading total in three-point percentage (39.6).  As far as experience, Zeisloft  has made 88 of 236 three-point attempts for his career.


“Coach Crean was very honest with me about what I could achieve at Indiana and I appreciate that,” said Zeisloft.   “I think I can bring leadership, experience and shooting ability to this team.  I really enjoyed my visit and was impressed with how hard they work out and how they communicate with one another.  I think I can be there for these guys as a teammate and always have their back.”


Zeisloft started 31 of 59 games in his career and averaged 6.9 points as a redshirt sophomore and 4.5 points as a redshirt freshman.


“We feel his best basketball days are ahead of him and his versatility and skills allow him to be very multi-dimensional for us,” added Crean.  “We feel he compliments our returners very well and will help in the development and growth process of our newcomers.”




2013-14/Redshirt Sophomore at Illinois State
Served as a team captain • Named to the Missouri Valley Conference Scholar-Athlete First Team • Was a three-time Missouri Valley Conference Scholar-Athlete of the Week (Jan. 15, Dec. 27 and Dec. 4) • Was one of 75 NCAA Division I men’s basketball student-athletes nominated for the 2014 Allstate NABC Good Works Team (announced Dec. 3) • Started 30 games and played in all 34 contests • Led the Redbirds and ranked No. 9 in the MVC in three-pointers per game (1.8) • Shot a team-best 35.5 percent (60-for-169) from beyond the arc and 90 percent (27-for-30) at the free throw line • Averaged 6.9 points and 3.4 rebounds per contest • Netted eight points during a career-high 35 minutes in the College Basketball Invitational (CBI) quarterfinal win over Texas A&M (March 24) • Registered 13 points in the CBI first-round win over Morehead State (March 19) • Scored 11 points in the win over Missouri State (Feb. 18) • Netted a career-best 18 points – all in the second half – plus blocked a career-best two shots in the overtime loss at Evansville (Feb. 12) • Scored 15 points on a career-best five three-pointers (5-for-7) in the win over Drake (Feb. 1) • Netted four three-pointers for 12 points in the win at Drake (Jan. 18) • Scored 12 points on 4-for-8 shooting from beyond the arc to finish with 12 points in the win over Loyola (Jan. 11) • Went 3-for-6 from beyond the arc in the loss at No. 6 Wichita State (Jan. 8) • Finished a perfect 6-for-6 at the free throw line to score 11 points in the win over DePaul (Dec. 22) • Scored 11 points on 4-for-8 shooting and registered his first-career block in the loss at Oakland (Dec. 16) • Netted eight points on 3-for-4 shooting in the win over No. 25 Dayton (Dec. 7) • Scored 14 points with seven rebounds in the win at San Francisco (Nov. 30) • Reached double figures for the first time in 2013-14 with a 10-point effort in the loss to Manhattan (Nov. 20) • Pulled down seven rebounds in the loss at No. 14 VCU (Nov. 8) • Recipient of the Dr. James E. Collie Endowed Scholarship.

2012-13/Redshirt Freshman at Illinois State
Played in 25 games, with one start • Suffered a knee sprain and bone bruise (Feb. 13), and missed five games before returning against Northern Iowa (March 8) • Scored six points on 2-for-4 shooting from beyond the arc in ISU’s Valley Tournament semifinal loss to Final Four qualifier Wichita State (March 9) • Capped a 16-0 run with a clutch three-pointer to tie the game, 22-22, against Wichita State at the Valley Tournament • Grabbed a career-high four rebounds, with nine points and one assist in the win over Southern Illinois (Feb. 2) • Netted six points with two rebounds and two assists in the loss at Bradley (Jan. 29) • Made his first-career start and scored five points with one rebound in the loss to Northern Iowa (Jan. 5) • Netted eight points and shot 2-for-2 free throws in the loss to No. 16 Creighton (Jan. 2) • Hit 3-for-5 field goals to score eight points in the loss at Indiana State (Dec. 30) • Scored six points on 2-for-4 three-point shooting in the win over Austin Peay (Dec. 22) • Collected a career-high three steals and added three points and two rebounds in the loss at No. 5 Louisville (Dec. 1) • Tallied a career-best three assists, but was held scoreless in the win over UAB (Nov. 24) • Scored a career-high 11 points (4-for-6), including 3-for-5 from beyond the arc, against Delaware State (Nov. 18) • Hit a key three-pointer to give ISU the lead, 55-54, in the second half of the win over Drexel (Nov. 15) • Made his collegiate debut in the win over UC Santa Barbara (Nov. 12), scoring nine points with three rebounds and two assists.

2011-12/Freshman at Illinois State


Prior to Illinois State
Finished his career at Lyons Township High School with 108 career three-point makes • A 2011 McDonald’s All-America nominee • Two-time All-West Suburban Conference selection • Led the Lions to a pair of regional championships • In 2011, the Lions finished 26-3 and lost to eventual state champion Chicago Simeon in the sectional final • As a senior, averaged 16.3 points, 6.1 rebounds and four assists per game • Led the team with 323 points as a junior and averaged 11.5 points per game • Coached by Tom Sloan • A four-year member of the honor roll.


Born December 18, 1992 • Son of Mark and Jennifer Zeisloft • Oldest of three children • Name is pronounced: Nick ZIE-sloft • Graduated with a degree in Finance from Illinois State •  Will enroll in graduate school at the Kelley School of Business.




  1. Pretty clear he won’t hurt the team GPA. I would have preferred a 6’9′ 230# Center transfer that played solid D and could rebound….but looks like this kid could be a solid contributor.

  2. And from my alma mater at LTHS in La Grange, IL. Matt Roth lite here. A solid role player.

    Best, PB

  3. I’ll ask the obvious question: why tie up a scholarship for two years with another guard? I wonder if there are concerns that Yogi might leave after his junior year or that, and this seems unlikely, that Blackmon is a one-year player.

    Seems like a good kid who might be a capable reserve and help with the gpa.

  4. This kid has posed with Bill Walton…? Very bad karma. Gotta hand it to Crean…He is still managing to find nice choir boys for the compound that could make Geoff’s, “Bald Mobsters Gone Lobsters,” powerhouse, YMCA league team in Maine.

    This is simply coming to Indiana to get on a bigger stage. That’s fine. But let’s not begin to believe there is any attachment to our candy stripes, our banners, or the fact that our Steve Downing kicked Bill Walton’s ass. This is just another “sing around the Bible campfire” recruit. Yes, he’s better than Marlin. Yippee.

    Lyles, Irvin, McGary, Dawson, Harris….? Nope. Another thumper from Illinois witnessing Indiana University somehow sitting on two scholarships still available in July(in addition to filling the two previous open scholarships with seriously unprepared projects)? Yup.

    I see this Walton-lover, the 2-year exodus of solid role players Crean could not develop or inspire, and the desperation to sign projects from the Southwest not worthy of an Alford Lobos’ roster, as multiple signs that another contract extension is near for Mr. Crean.

  5. correction(Forgot a couple other plus signs pointing toward, soon-to-be-released, “Hoosier Rising II” video):

    I see this Walton-lover, the 2-year exodus of solid role players Crean could not develop or inspire, [DUI/fake ID arrests amongst players still professing their confidence in Crean], [Calbert Cheaney giving Crean the total brush on the assistant coaching job], and the desperation to sign projects from the Southwest not worthy of an Alford Lobos’ roster, as multiple signs that another contract extension is near for Mr. Crean.

  6. I know nothing about this kid as a basketball player. He seems to be an ideal “student-athlete”. But he sure won’t start at IU; he probably won’t be in the top 10 rotation at IU this season; so why a 2 year scholarship? I thought that IU wanted a 3 man class for 2015? This seems to kill that idea. Puzzling!

  7. Surprise, Surprise — HfH is critical of a move coach Crean has made. Glad I was sitting down when I read his comment. Seriously though, is this kid going to be a star for IU? No!! Will he fill a role and serve a purpose for the team? I believe so. Before we judge too harshly, let’s see how the season plays out.

  8. Why a 2 year scholarship? Because, just a little over a month ago, Crean had four scholarships open.

    When Zeller created all the recruiting momentum, Crean could play his cutthroat oversign games and play recruits like a roulette wheel. Look where it got him?

    After the exodus, the complete loss in confidence(assistants and players alike) and all eyes opening up to just how clueless this coach is, Crean is forced into desperation to fill four roster spots with more Jurkin/Perea-type projects and grad transfer students that would normally be lucky to play with Bobby Capobianco on Valpo.

  9. H for H: That is some hateful BS. You should be ashamed. That’s why I don’t visit or read this site anymore.
    If Dustin keeps catering to the insane, that is all that will be left.

  10. It’s not hateful at all…It’s the reality of a coach that destroyed all confidence and trust amongst the sea of players and coaches that have left.

    I think not putting a summertime call into a totally eligible Matt Roth was completely disrespectful and “hateful BS.” Now, a 2014-15 desperate Crean, puts in a call to a slightly taller version; a version that hasn’t already busted his butt for the cream and crimson.

    Even if Crean was an excellent in-game/blackboard coach, his level of cutthroat recruiting roulette would inevitably build serious animosity(even amongst the most faith-sharing/honorable/strong student-athlete). And we have an AD advocating longer guarantee of scholarships and players’ “Bill of Rights?”

    Other than the next trip out East to find the next “D-Wadeadipo Rising” that will use Indiana for their stage, the man has eroded all faith and confidence in high quality local talent and those he brought in as supporting cast.

  11. I can almost hear Don Fischer now….

    Zeee loft the ball to the basket….Zeee 3-pointer is good!!! Who says you can’t have lofty goals?!

  12. Picking Oladipo to target your rage against is quintessentially Pickettian, Harvard. In fact, the curly haired ghost of the Confederate General, who finished dead last in his West Point class, would probably pick his odds over your’s in this silly attempt to defame.

  13. Crean? Fired? Crean is akin to a BP oil spill in the Gulf of Hoosier….A ton of slick that will always be there.

  14. Another legitimate discussion derailed by H4H’s severe case of Tom Crean Derangement Syndrome.

    I don’t recall the article saying that Zeisloft was awarded a two year scholarship. In fact, I don’t think the article even mentioned whether he’s getting a full scholarship or not. Does anyone know for sure? I think the article said that he has two years of eligibility remaining. That may be a distinction without a difference, but I’m not sure if Zeisloft is assured of a full scholarship for two years or not. Does the basketball team hand out partial scholarships like other varsity sports do?

  15. Crean is a modern day Vermeer! He achieves his coaching masterpieces in the most heavenly of light with one square Twitter room, deceptive brushstrokes of genius in front of subjects sworn to secrecy, and a tiny mirror!

    Somebody call Teller!

  16. I have to really wonder if there is a master plan that is just to difficult to decipher for the IU basketball fan. This signing makes no sense with such a pressing need for QUALITY forwards and centers. Why is Tom Crean stockpiling guards? He must know something that Bill Self, Rick Pitino, John Calipari and others do not. Those guys feel you need to have shot blockers, rebounders and some inside scoring ability. I guess the plan must be to launch as many 3’s as possible and outgun the competition. Should be fun!

  17. I’m with Hoosier Hopeful. You want to let this guy “walk-on” or give him a scholarship for a year since IU has one or more to spare, that’s fine. Why give this guy 2 years and to do what? I hope we find out that he’s a “major” contributor but I don’t see any evidence to suggest so.

  18. If there is a bright side, you found it. It appears a real upgrade as far as depth in shooting efficiency. All the guards have good size and we’ll be able to reload if fatigue, foul trouble, or cold night play into the need to mix things up. We also have a forward in Hoetzel that has the 3-point weapon.

    But I’m not sure how well it all translates when facing a higher level of defensive athlete that many of these young guns are now going to face in the Big.

    And how do you keep a the camaraderie amongst such positional saturation? Will guys like Yogi and Blackmon be content with seeing their minutes and floor time quickly evaporate the moment they miss a couple shots?

    UK had a ton of inside power last year, but it ultimately wasn’t enough to take the final prize. Harrison hit a ton of big outside shots against Michigan.

    I’m not sure if there really is an optimal formula…It’s often just riding the wave of hot hands and solid defense. Rebounding isn’t always about size. Our wings and bigger guards may react/anticipate/position to the ball faster and stronger than many post players.

  19. Harvard is right in that rebounding isn’t always about size, but most of the time it correlates. It is possible that Perea, Williams and Davis have made enormous strides during the offseason and that is what Crean is counting on. I hope so because this move is very questionable when there are more pressing needs.

  20. This kid was the Captain of his team as Illinois St. At the very least, he’s a leader (as well as an upperclassman that’s been around the block a few times). With Will gone, we have a bit of a hole in this department. I think the fist-shaking and ire that some folks have leveled towards some of the off court antics has been way over the top, but no one is giving these kids the keys to the mansion while mom and dad leave home yet.

    Someone who has already proven that he can earn the respect of his teammates, yet is able to keep everyone straight would be a good thing for this crop.

    So far, I’m not wowed, nor am I ready to burst any blood vessels about this signing.

  21. Yeah…IU should fire Coach Crean for not re-building the program fast enough to win a National Championship in 6 long, excruciating years. I mean Bo Ryan would have already won 2 – 3, right? How many does he have at Wisconsin? Let me check Wikipedia…gulp, zero. Hmmm…but surely the great Tom Izzo has won 2 – 3 National Championships in the last 6 to 10 years? Let me check Wikipedia again…gulp, zero?!

    Well…who cares about facts, let’s hire Bob Knight’s son Pat Knight! I hear he’s available after being fired at Lamar, and he’s a real chip off the old block. Just watch:


    Class-act, huh?! Let’s fire Coach Crean tomorrow while this gem of a coach is still on the market. What do you say? Scowl and spit on your computer screen if you’re with me! Go Hoosiers!!

  22. I somehow forgot about Davis…Davis is a solid player and very active around the glass. Should be plenty of boards…The question mark is the inside scoring, the inside defense, the quick outlet pass, the interior passing, the fluidity on pick and rolls, the likelihood our bigs can run the floor, the decision making on entry passes, the movement of offense through the high post, the inside/outside game, etc, etc, etc..

    And, as evidenced by the two late picks from the West to fill the openings of Vonleh and Fischer, you just don’t get legit bigs this late in the game.

    But knowing we can’t fill those inside needs with high star power at this late stage, this immediately available transfer providing more outside firepower is about as strong as we could expect.

  23. Quit getting your panties all in a fuss. Crean is here for at least six more years. I give him a baker’s dozen until the slower group of thumpers finally understand his temporary success truly did completely hinge on Zeller.

    He’s beginning to feel like having George Bush around B-town. Makes for great comedic material while still refrain from fooling around with any interns.

  24. Crean is the epitome of the Peter Principle. He’ll probably be another unsuccessful IU coach along the lines of Davis and Sampson. Last year he didn’t recruit shooters and this year he couldn’t recruit a good front court player, but he’s laughing all the way to the bank with the 11 million plus dollars he’s made from IU over the last 7 years.

  25. Higgi, Sorry but PK was hired in the last couple of days as a scout for the Pacers.

  26. Higgi Has Bo Ryan ever won a NCAA championship? How many Final four has Wisconsin been to? Have they ever won the NCAA championship? How many Big 10 Championship has Bo won? The problem with many Hoosier fans is knowing the game better than the Coaches.

  27. Coach Crean reminds me of OBama leadership….In Crean’s case, he is doing his best to get IU into the Missouri Valley conference where they can compete for championships.

  28. I would like to prophesize that by Christmas break we will know whether CTC will stay or go.The “freshman” excuse wont play after watching UK go to finals with 5 freshman.The responsibility of the inside play (or lack thereof) rest solely on his shoulders for the lack of recruiting.The underdevelopement of the team and resultant 16 TO’s/ game. After giving a year to maturity, improvement shows or it wont and that will be by Christmas break

  29. Another lowlife coward posting comments under someone else’s screen name! Post #19 was not written by me.

    Dustin, the good folks that oversee this site have got to start extending the suspensions or simply banning the loser who post comments under another person’s screen names.

    1. Podunker,
      Sorry, I missed that post yesterday. As mentioned before, I would gladly ban said loser from the site, but it’s not that simple. We’ll keep at it.

  30. Dustin, After you address Podunker’s valid concern, I have another suggestion. Would it be possible to send an e-mail alert if/when Harvard posts something meaningful?

  31. I’m not impressed. I feel as if we are just adding pieces of broken candy to the roster. I rather just save the scholorship. I’m sure I will take heat for this.

  32. LOL…it’s amazing to me how many people don’t understand SARCASM or take the time to READ a post before responding with a stupid, illogical counter-comment, e.g.,

    “Higgi Has Bo Ryan ever won a NCAA championship? How many Final four has Wisconsin been to? Have they ever won the NCAA championship? How many Big 10 Championship has Bo won? The problem with many Hoosier fans is knowing the game better than the Coaches.”


    BTW, Pat Knight is probably where he belongs – a behind the scenes scout – not as the leader & mentor of young men.

  33. TJ,

    Post #34 has been beat to death already. It’s been blogged about many times this will be a make or break season. If we ever get nuked, I want your hand on the button, seeing how you love to “sound the alarm” for your disdain of such things in life.

  34. Higgi is right. Without Knight’s three championships, the Big 10 would have very little to brag about when it comes to winning NCAA titles.

    But we’re not just talking championships…We’re talking about proving that you can take highly ranked teams, teams with some talent worthy of being high NBA draft picks rounded out with strong supporting casts, to the deeper rounds(Elite 8, Final Four, Championship appearance).

    The ultimate banner is very elusive…Knight took the Hoosiers to 14 Sweet Sixteen’s, 9 Elite Eight’s, and 5 Final Four’s(4 of which included getting to the championship game) along the road to the Big 10’s only true historical basketball dynasty.

    Crean could live to 150-years-old and couldn’t achieve what Knight did in his first six years. Why do you think Crean wanted to rub up against the man after a Georgetown game? Unfortunately, recruiting is only one aspect to being a successful coach(albeit a very important aspect). It’s also a part of “coaching” where ultimate credit is given to the head coach for an area where assistants, boosters, tradition, historical success of the program have the greatest influencing factors outside of what it takes to be a real teacher of the game(on the practice court and during a contest).

    I, personally, don’t need six more years of Crean using his own gifted powers of persuasion, tied into the squeaky clean godliness of his tweets and villain chasing, alongside the backdrop of a university that blows the rest of the Big 10 away when it comes to banners, at a state deeply rooted in everything basketball, to know the opportunistic salesman will never be a teacher of the game. Will he ever get beyond a Sweet 16…? It’s possible. Does it mean that I enjoy watching talented young men stand clueless to how to even inbound a ball against a press?

    I didn’t need the arrival of Cheaney to help sell Crean to my heart. I didn’t need his attempts to be validated by playing ‘Ring Around the Rosary’ with Bobby after a Georgetown game Knight was working for ESPN to be proud of Indiana again. I didn’t need the chasing of an ex-Sampson assistant in front of national cameras to vindicate anything I had nothing to do with. I simply want to watch a man coach that actually belongs standing in front of the classroom. I would prefer a smart man with all the risk a set of human flaws than a charlatan that covers up his lack of acumen for the game by chasing flaws.
    Whatever the powers may be that will allow Crean to stay for image over substance is something I never thought Indiana Basketball would lower itself as being so precedent as to sacrifice the quality in teaching the game that put our school on the world map. Much of a young man’s values are learned at home and within the community/streets his upbringing….When they get to Indiana, I want the coach to be more than a pastor or babysitter. I would like some evidence of men loving to learn the game with some sort of “eye test” that their individual talents are not constrained by what they have failed to be taught in a collective endeavor. Isn’t basketball still a collective endeavor? The beauty isn’t in the banner itself…The beauty is watching a team grow together and improve. The joy for this fan is simply knowing we had a leader that didn’t shortchange the experience for the whole to merely put on display the few. When it comes to measuring Crean as a coach within the former of that statement as my own personal “eye test”….? I’ve seen more than enough.

    If our fans and administration need more time..? At least I’ll know the “prestigious” IU School of Business is talked about during March Madness. And isn’t Fred Glass an IU School of Business grad? It’s comforting to know he’s all about giving us the business of Crean in what was once no better classroom in the nation to learn basketball.

  35. I do favor Jeremy’s method to simply use “Not Podunker” as the replacement screen name over washing the comment completely off the thread. Because we all know that witnessing something displaying any sense of humor could easily be the “Yes it is” Podunker. So happy all the slippery slope confusion was cleared up.

    Rhinestone slippers with grippers for Jeremy!! Hmmm..? Funny…When Ben hijacked my name, the Scoop crowd was fooled content with slopes of slipperiness as it stayed prominently displayed on the slippery slopes like a beautiful spruce for about a week. Was Jeremy on vacation with Ben? And what about that Reggie guy that used “Puke is the Worst” for months…? And Husky Tom using “Steve in Ottawa” for months to deceive the rest of us stuck in the dark on the Scoop bunny hills instead of the big slippery slopes..? I never remember any clarifications back then. Different rule for different drool, I suppose.

  36. If you need to know where IU fans that actually spend their dollars to go to games currently stand when it comes to evaluating Crean’s coaching abilities, I do believe the 00:35 mark of the following clip gives a big, reassuring, thumbs up.

  37. Harvard, Steve in Ottawa was a name that gave genuine commentary. It wasn’t a name change towards the end purpose of trickery or mischief. As I said time and time again, Steve in Ottawa came about for the very same reason Podunker is angry: because the previous name used by the S.I.O. blogger was hijacked and used to misrepresent the person’s opinions.

    You always resort to the most nebulous and position on the subject of Remorrhoid name-stealing. I think you like perpetuating the always and ever-faint suggestion that you are really him and he is you. You two certainly are kindred spirits

  38. Here’s the only question relevant about Zeisloft being offered a scholarship to play for IU. Is he as valuable or more valuable than any player that graduated or transferred off of last year’s IU team? Having never seen him play, I don’t have a clue, but if Crean and his coaches believe the answer is “yes,” then giving Zeisloft a scholarship was a good move. If they believe the answer is “no,” then it makes no sense to “spend” a scholarship on him, no matter how good a student he may be.

    But from one perspective, he does arrive with more playing experience than some of the players that graduated or transferred from last year’s team. And the stats suggest that he’s a reasonably good three point and free-throw shooter. In addition, I think it is safe to say that he is smart, mature, and likely to be a good citizen. Those attributes are not irrelevant. Is he going to replace the NBA’s most recent ninth draft pick? No, of course not. But he may turn out to be a valuable member of the team. Until he resigns or gets fired, we have no choice but to give Crean and his staff the benefit of the doubt. He and his assistant coaches do have a history of finding quality players. Let’s see if Zeisloft contributes.

  39. Who will be the major cuts after this school year? Only one scholly available and one oversign for 2015. Also, will the new IU Bill or Rights help with signing and then pushed into tranfering?

  40. Seahawk-

    It was trickery. It was trickery in that it deceived someone that was currently on Scoop that thought you wouldn’t hide amongst a friend. Please don’t attempt to shed honor on the childish high that one gets from these games of hide and seek. Who knows how many on Scoop play the same game…Even in Southport’s last post the other day, he admits to using “BBB” as a once alternative screen name by placing it in parentheses next to “southport.”

    And I seem to also remember you finding quite a bit of laughter when “Remorrhoid”(or was it possibly you laughing it up with your own deceptive games and inventive names?)came onto to Scoop rearranging my screen name into “Hardfarts for Heebiejeebies.” I bet your laughing your ass off now just rereading it again. It was funny as hell. I feel for Podunker..The man sits so high on his own totem pole that he can’t even have a bit of a laugh at his own expense.

    In all honesty, it’s far less deception when someone hijacks a name because the person being hijacked immediately reacts because their ego is hurt. Dustin or Rhinestones are immediately alerted with fire alarms that all should abandon ship because the entire Scoop yacht is going down in the waters of darkness and deception. They would have absolutely zero integrity if they took a position to deny it. But when Dustin or Jeremy allow someone to move around here under a new name, or multiple names, without confessing of such names being under one contributor’s domain, that’s the most deceptive form of trickery. But in those cases, they generally let the chickens eat each other’s droppings…

    Don’t pretend what you did was honorable. Friends don’t hide from a friend they see they see at a distance at a ball game. They stand up, shout, wave, and ask them to come over and have a beer.

    And I shouldn’t be so hard on Ben…I’m pretty sure that other bloggers have hijacked or played games with my name(altering for the purpose of not knowing if it’s a regular that’s mocking or taking shots). Come to think of it, Geoff once disclosed of playing such a game. It’s far easier for Dustin and Jeremy to turn the other cheek to these deception games(the hide and seek you enjoyed under the Steve in Ottawa disguise) because it quiets the possibility of real outright wars and one-upmanship.

    But I don’t hold any real resentment for your games…I understand. Sometimes you just get sick of a person and you don’t want them to see you in the crowd with your other new buddies. We will forever be doubters of true kindness and sincerity in a world that never offers a simple look into the eyes. Rules are only as strong as they are followed. If their were stringent rules, would we trust Dustin and Jeremy to apply them equally? Would they allow their “favorites” or friends to reemerge with more frequency under different names? The rules are only as sound as the integrity of those with the power to bend them. Skype blogging?

  41. oops..

    If [there] were [exceedingly] stringent rules, would we trust Dustin and Jeremy to apply them equally?

  42. And if those that believe a log-in method would be best through a Facebook or Twitter account get their way, you’ll be able to say goodbye to Harvard. For all the billioniares that turned their corner-of-the-classroom zits into fortunes, capitalizing on mushrooming clouds of narcissism and the selling of the glorious “me” for those that feed forever in front of creations a perfect mirror, I love this place for not becoming part of that cesspool.

    Need Twitter or Facebook to be a Scoop member? Easiest way in the world to forever banish Harvard to an island of repairing old broken pianos again.

  43. All who vote in favor of Facebook login, say “Hurry up!!!”

    Just kidding, Harvey.

    Sort of. 😉

  44. It will likely be implemented tomorrow. It’s o.k. I’ve been neglecting the repairs to the old piano…

    Husky Tom
    Saturday, September 7, 2013 – 5:39 PM EDT

    Geoff, best satirical Harvard name ever (until now Remora’s “Hardfart for Heebiejeebies” was the best.

    Harvard, I can’t open the picture. Can you re-post it?

    Please, Harvey….Please open my picture.

  45. It’s ok Harvard. I thought we talked out the hijack deal, and we both apologized. Can we agree on that at least? I fully admitted my guild a long time ago.

  46. Aww shucks, Harv. You went and done made me blush. Thanks for the kind words, but reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated. I still stop by from time to time, but I haven’t had much to say lately. Life keeps me pretty busy these days. I don’t want to waste it hunting and pecking on my IPad if the spirit doesn’t move me.

    All that said, wishing you the best, Southport. Just visited with my grandpa this past weekend who is in remission. It’s a tough haul; not one that I would wish on anyone. Thoughts and prayers are with you and your loved ones.

    Good snags for IU football. Recruits are getting more and more exciting.

    Tried to post about the most recent hoops addition, too. (I won’t even pretend like I’ve committed his name to memory yet.) Post wouldn’t take from my phone this morning, But most of my points have already been made by others since then, so no need to rehash. I’ll just say, in the absence of a quality big man available for pick up, leadership, shooting depth, and a backup guard who won’t turn it over every other possession are all an upgrade. Just hope he can produce when the calibre of opponent goes way up. Like seemingly every recruit we bring in lately: we’ll see.

  47. I will say, though, I think the odds of at least one of our three latest recruits being a big time contributor one day– maybe even an All-Conference type diamond in the rough, to steal another cliche– is higher than all three turning out to be duds.

    If Zeisloft (decided I cared enough to scroll up and learn his name) turns out to be little more than a role player, I’m fine with that so long as that role is quality backup/team leader and not bench warmer/scholarship vacuum.

  48. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, let the record show that Harvard slobbers over his boyfriend Mitch McGary of the Michigan Wolverines, while constantly calling Victor Oladipo and Cody Zeller of the Indiana Hoosiers, sellouts.

    We recommend in sentencing that he turn in his candystripes. He can mail them to Tom Crean’s office directly. He can go to Goodwill himself to get Mitch’s Michigan jersey.

  49. Mitch led his team to a Final Four…(not to mention, going through Syracuse).

    Though coming to a storied program that hadn’t seen a banner for almost 30 years, Cody and Dipo were still satisfied with Sweet 16’s. They slobbered all over their Indiana coach as if he was the Messiah. They were all about playing for Indiana because of a faith doctrine. It had very little to do with a love for candy stripes. Maybe they should turn in their candy stripes…? I guess a shameful showing against Syracuse was how they preferred to define their final memory in candy stripes and the concluding chapter of “Going Home Parties” and “We’re Back” and “Everything Hinges on Cody” and “Hoosier Rising” and “New Generation”. I didn’t sell anyone out. They sold themselves out.

    It’s not hard to imagine a combination of Zeller and Vonleh bringing a banner to Bloomington. It’s not hard to imagine they’d both still be high draft picks. That soft McGary guy that got his butt spanked by Cody up in Ann Arbor still managed to go in the first round(even after a sophomore season plagued by back injury). He wasn’t satisfied with a Final Four. He’s an Indiana kid that didn’t sell out a program that wanted him more than Tom Crean and Indiana.

    And where did it the selling out leave Crean? One thing is for certain, Cody and Dipo guaranteed he’ll likely never even fill Mike Davis’s shoes. The odds have drastically fallen that he’ll never sniff a Final Four at Indiana. He’ll never know how it feels to have the same validation amongst his peers within his coaching career as the prima donnas that left him for the NBA. So much for chasing Bob Knight for an “everything hinges” handshake….Guess there’s always Tom Izzo and Calipari as his go-to sources for more quiet embraces of validation.

    If only he wouldn’t have simply recruited within the constraints of faith doctrines…If he’d only kept an open mind to sinners likes Mitch, Harris, Dawson, Robinson, Irvin…etc, etc, etc. Some of the strongest talent to pass through Indiana high schools in decades and he had to hinge it all on the cross rather than those that would stay to bring him a banner.

  50. The odds have drastically fallen that he’ll [ever] sniff a Final Four at Indiana.

  51. Husky Tom
    Wednesday, May 19, 2010 – 11:36 AM EDT

    Mark my words: I will never celebrate or spin a Zeller or a Plumlee signing into a positive. If either of them sign, they will be my least favorite player on the team. Hell Washington signed 5-star Spencer Hawes a few years ago and I still hate him, even after he has established a solid NBA career.

    ^Now we know why bloggers change their names to Steve in Ottawa.

  52. What’s your point? I don’t care if Mitch joined Ben down in Haiti and saved 50 kids lives. He still went to the University of Michigan, one of our hated rivals, and the fact that you slobber all over him while denigrating two Indiana players who were not only great players, but also great people who represented Indiana University’s historical values to the utmost, reveals how far you will go to hate on Tom Crean. Knight would have loved both of these kids just as much — I guarantee it.

    It is a team game and Mitch was a key component of a team who played really well in the the tournament. This was also a team also who lost to Indiana twice that year. Cody Zeller still has a boot print on Mitch’s neck from the two times they played. Zeller didn’t just get the best of him, he OWNED him. Even Germany’s soccer team would have been impressed by how lopsided those match-ups went.

    Normally, Indiana fans would celebrate these accomplishments. The fact that I’m even having to point this out to you shows how far you have fallen.

    I even saw you in several posts now allude to James Blackmon Jr as being a Calipari reject. I won’t forget that one either.

    Let me go on record as saying I’m super excited that JBJ made the right choice to come and play for the Hoosiers. I can’t wait until next year and hope he’s as exciting next year as he’s been in high school.

    Turn in your candy stripes.

  53. Egads, I need to proofread better when writing on my phone. Sorry for the sinful syntax.

  54. Cody was a sophomore going up against a freshman that had very limited early season minutes, had shed 20 pounds, and was just beginning to catch his college stride.

    I think most young men would prefer to “own” the NCAA tournament rather than rest on the laurels of a personal rival while proceeding to embarrass the “TEAM” effort, play like sellouts in March Madness in a completely lost and disjointed fashion, because you’re already planning a “going home party” and looking beyond the NCAA tournament in anticipation your NBA draft night.

    And you can drool over Zeller’s gargantuan sophomore dominance over a player barely wet behind the years that had only averaged about 13 mpg going into their first meeting until Crean gets his next 10 million extension, but the fact remains Zeller(and Oladipo)left Indiana after one of the most embarrassing performances in Indiana’s tournament history(the two games leading up to the horrific performance at the Sweet 16 hardly worthy of anything approaching a focused team effort…They were nearly single-handedly defeated by a Temple guard).

    To keep slathering praise on a hideous waste of talent potential within the backdrop sales job of extreme and unnecessary hype shows just how far knowledgeable Indiana basketball fans that demand more than preaching and villain chasing a ‘rival’ have fallen.

    Blackmon will be gone in one year. It will simply be more wasted talent at the hands of Crean’s complete incompetence and his coddling infatuations of padding his resume via young men that seek refuge in personal/individual glory because of witnessed lost confidences in a coach that could never take talent deep into tournaments.

    Once you digest that harsh reality, you can be a big boy and wear candy stripes the uniform instead of the pajamas.

  55. There was no hype around McGary in 2012-13…Maybe if you had a mature thought process to fill that vacuum of arrogance, you could figure out why McGary and Michigan played like gladiators in the NCAA tournament while “Mr. Everything Hinges” and the Hoosiers played like Glad bags.

    And maybe you could take another deep breath and realize what all the false overkill rooted in the hype for Crean and all holier-than-thou meaningless blow can also do to the hunger of a team. Crean breeds nothing but soft and entitled. It’s no wonder you can relate.

  56. They only gladiators around here are the ones in your dreams covered in Crisco and wearing Michigan thong underwear.

    Enjoy your Michigan slobberfest. Add Kentucky to that list too. You were also slobbering over the Kentucky one and doners during this year’s tournament. Love for them, hate for Blackmon. You’re priceless.

    The rest of us will go back to rooting for the Hoosiers. Especially great ones like Zeller and Oladipo.

  57. I despise Kentucky. And what’s even more despicable than your skin-crawling Crisco and furry women references is that I had to watch that Brokeback NBA Mountain friend of Crean down in Lexington teach talent to play together in a far supreme fashion than the bozo preacher you share an entitled candy stripe pajama party. It’s one thing that Kentucky wannabees hired a crook…But it’s more than embarrassing when the crook can coach the game at a higher level than Ringmaster Joyce Tweet.

  58. Ringmaster Joyce Tweet….LOL. Somehow we got back to “circular” logic.

  59. And there simply is no UK vs. IU rivalry anymore…So quit playing that banjo. Your brothers of another mother, Whipped Crean and Calisnarly, totally effed up that tradition in making sure to never get in the same circular mud pit together.

    But make no mistake, when Indiana high school ballers(even those scrubs that go to UM and MSU) play Kentucky it’s a spanking more than you’ll get from the Chewbacca sisters.

  60. You and I agree on Calipari and the contrast to Crean. Ringmaster Joyce Tweet was genuinely hilarious.

    I think I need to rile you up more often. 🙂

  61. Yeah, I had bit of fun…Just too bad we couldn’t pull Zesty Tom into the ring for some 3-way circular logic(not to be confused with Sampson making untraceable recruiting calls on a 1974 rotary phone).

    Take care.

  62. I haven’t seen that film…I have a hunch it would be on Zesty Tom’s list.

    I prefer ‘Blue Chips’ starring Matt Nover.

  63. You’re right, Jeremy. I typed it knowing it was something that was too mean-spirited. I really have no excuse…I could try to reason out a few, but it isn’t anyone’s reason to care here.

    Sorry for the ugliness emitting from an ugly place my sickness and sadness of late. Had a lot of losses and I’m not dealing with them very well. I’ll go away and maybe comeback some future day.

    Take care all.

  64. But who else is going to camp out on this site 24/7 and provide us with belly button fluff and filler?

  65. go back to hoping for things to get better BUT keep in mind you have a coach that recruited 2 projects for BIG positions,gave a scholarship away to a transfer that spent more time on the redshirt list than the playing floor.and if this wont buoy your enthusiasm, first time in CTC’s tenure he has NO committments heading into the July eval period.

  66. Ben, do you mean patience? ‘Patients’ are people who are under the care of a health worker. ‘Patience’ is a well respected human attribute that calls for paused consideration and wisdom-filled thinking about a situation.

  67. Agree with RAM. Leaving Harvard, is a coward’s way out when he becomes aware of an error. Much better that you not take your toys with you and remain in the blog entertaining us with your humorous attributes and worthy sport comments while being aware and avoiding your occasional descents into mean attacks and vulgar moments. Leaving is kind of what TC expects of you and leaves him full run of the court. Stay and change…this is a chance to test the worthy side of you.

  68. Your nose is growing Ben. Don’t blame the IPad, or you’ll have to admit ‘full guilt’ once again in one thread.

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