Notes: IU contacts Big Ten about officiating; Allen updates injury report; this week’s depth chart

Tom Allen has made his displeasure with some of Saturday’s officiating decisions known to the Big Ten.

Allen said Monday that Indiana officials have spoken with the conference about a series of questionable calls during the 27-20 overtime loss to Michigan.

Although Allen didn’t indicate exactly which calls have been discussed — the IU coach told reporters that the conversations will remain private — he was particularly bothered after the game by the pass interference call against Rashard Fant and the ruling on a late onside kick that took the ball away from the Hoosiers.

“We’ve had good discussions, very professional and handled it the right way,” Allen said. “Just face it head-on, and that’s what we’ve done. That’s my approach, and I feel good about the way we’ve handled it.”

Few changes to injury report

Indiana emerged from the Michigan game without further additions to its injury report.

Tight end Ian Thomas did get a little banged-up during Saturday’s contest, and briefly left the field for medical attention. He is considered “day-to-day” entering this weekend’s trip to Michigan State.

“We feel pretty good coming out of this game,” Allen said. “I think the guys that all played have a chance to be able to be with us again and should be with us again.”

Allen, however, doesn’t expect defensive back Marcelino Ball, cornerback A’Shon Riggins, right guard Simon Stepaniak or receiver Donavan Hale to return against the Spartans.

“Don’t know if we’re going to get anybody back this week,” Allen said. “Doubt that we will. But it’s possible on a couple of those guys. So we’ll know more as the week unfolds, and probably by Thursday I should have a pretty good idea.”

No changes to depth chart

OFFENSE
LT: Coy Cronk, 6-5, 305, So.
, Caleb Jones, 6-8, 370, Fr.
LG: Wes Martin, 6-3, 310, R-Jr., Grayson Stover, 6-6, 305, R-Fr.
C: Hunter Littlejohn, 6-3, 305, R-So., Harry Crider, 6-4, 290, Fr.
RG: Simon Stepaniak, 6-4, 305, R-So., Mackenzie Nworah, 6-4, 305, R-Fr.
RT: Brandon Knight, 6-5, 305, Jr., Delroy Baker, 6-6, 305, R-Jr.
WR: Simmie Cobbs, 6-4, 220, R-Jr., Taysir Mack, 6-2, 200, R-Fr.
WR: Luke Timian, 6-0, 195, R-Jr., J-Shun Harris, 5-8, 170, R-Jr.
WR: Donavan Hale, 6-4, 225, Jr., Whop Philyor, 5-11, 180, Fr. or Ty Fryfogle, 6-2, 205, Fr.
QB: Peyton Ramsey, 6-2, 210, R-Fr., Richard Lagow, 6-6, 240, R-Sr.
RB: Mike Majette, 5-11, 210, Jr., Morgan Ellison, 6-1, 225, Fr., Devonte Williams, 5-10, 190, R-So., Cole Gest, 5-8, 195, R-Fr.
TE: Ian Thomas, 6-5, 248, Sr., Ryan Watercutter, 6-2, 228, R-Jr.

DEFENSE
DE: Greg Gooch, 6-2, 250, Sr.
, Allen Stallings, 6-2, 240, So.
DT: Jacob Robinson, 6-4, 285, Jr., Jerome Johnson, 6-3, 295, R-Fr. or LeShaun Minor, 6-3, 300, Fr.
DT: Nate Hoff, 6-2, 310, R-Sr., Mike Barwick, 6-0, 295, R-Jr.
DE: Robert McCray, 6-2, 270, Sr., Brandon Wilson, 6-3, 255, R-So.
LB: Chris Covington, 6-2, 230, Sr., Dameon Willis, 6-1, 230, R-Jr. or Mike McGinnis, 6-2, 230, R-Jr.
LB: Tegray Scales, 6-0, 230, Sr., Reakwon Jones, 6-2, 230, R-So.
CB: Rashard Fant, 5-10, 180, R-Sr., Raheem Layne, 6-1, 190, Fr.
Husky: Tony Fields, 5-11, 205, Sr., Ben Bach, 6-1, 195, R-Sr., or Jayme Thompson, 6-2, 195, R-Sr.
S: Jonathan Crawford, 6-2, 203, Jr., Khalil Bryant, 5-10, 200, So.
S: Chase Dutra, 6-1, 212, R-Sr., , Zeke Walker, 6-2, 215, R-Jr.
CB: Andre Brown, 6-0, 195, R-So., , Tyler Green, 6-3, 190, Jr.

SPECIAL TEAMS
K: Griffin Oakes, 5-10, 198, R-Sr.
, Logan Justus, 5-11, 180, R-So., or Jared Smolar, 5-11, 225, So.
P: Haydon Whitehead, 6-2, 205, R-So., Drew Conrad, 6-2, 195, R-Fr. or Joseph Gedeon, 6-3, 200, R-Jr.
LS: Dan Godsil, 6-4, 230, Jr., Shaun Bonner, 6-3, 250, R-Fr.
H: Drew Conrad, 6-2, 195, R-Fr., Peyton Ramsey, 6-2, 210, R-Fr.
KR: Devonte Williams, 5-10, 190, R-So., Cole Gest, 5-8, 195, R-Fr.
PR: J-Shun Harris, 5-8, 170, R-Jr., Luke Timian, 6-0, 195, R-Jr.

27 comments

  1. Letting the action of filing a complaint get out in the media is the way to publicly criticize the referees without getting fined by the Big Ten authorities. Smart! And I hope IU’s complaints result in a few of these refs getting downgraded or suspended. The bias was obvious and a few of those calls and non-calls were simply terrible, and it’s not unreasonable to argue that if a few had gone the other way, IU would have won the game. Obviously, Allen and other IU officials agree, otherwise they would not be filing this complaint with the conference authorities.

  2. I’ve watched IU games for many, many years. I cannot remember a single game against one of the league’s blue bloods where I thought, “wow, that was officiated fairly” Bill Mallory got suspended for a game for speaking out for the officiating double standard and Bill Lynch would scream until he was blue in the face and now Coach Allen registers his ‘displeasure’. The lower tier teams always get bad officiating in games against the league leaders. It’s not random, it’s predictable. We will have this same conversation after the Wisconsin game. The officials will still ‘miss calls’ when it benefits Wisconsin and we will be led to believe that, for the 1000’th time, it was just a collection of innocent oversights. It’s happened unabated for as long as I can remember. It isn’t a glitch in the system, it is the system and another single complaint by IU is going to do nothing to change it. If IU, Purdue, Maryland, Rutgers, Minnesota and Illinois put together a tape of the double standards and collectively took it to the league and media, maybe, MAYBE, collectively they could get something accomplished. But singularly, nothing is going to change.

  3. I feel totally different about this, sometimes the calls go in your favor and sometimes they do not!!! Case in point does IU (any BIG 10 team) gets the favorable calls when they play a MAC team or FCS school. Most MAC school feel that they get the short end of the ref’s calls when they play a BIG 10 school. An when you look at the over all picture Michigan was whistle for 16 penalties (141 yards) and IU was whistle for 5 penalties (55 yards). Was the flag on Tegray Scales correct?? Are should Tegray have been assets a targeting penalty as well?? I truly feel that ref’s do the very best they can. The game itself has become to physical and to fast. yes, a few calls where missed in this game, a few calls is missed in every game. but if you truly are a good team you learn how to work thru those calls and win the game.

    1. Right on. Meatchicken kept IU in the game with all their errors. Even receiving a sideline warning.

    2. The MI defensive strategy was to grab, hold, interference with and deny our receivers a fair opportunity to catch the ball on EVERY offensive play. That strategy was largely successful and did prevent IU from winning the game. Yes, MI was called for 15 penalties. No, MI was NOT called for 25 additional penalties, including the obvious hold on Cobbs on the last play of OT!

  4. IU79 you are helping make my point. MAC teams and non-conference opponents don’t get the calls against IU. Going into a tv timeout of the Charleston Southern game, they showed a play where Coy Cronk was just grabbing the defensive player with an outstretched arm with the official watching. Cronk held on while the helpless Charleston Southern player tried to run while being held in place. The official was literally watching Cronk the whole time and no flag was pulled. That is biased officiating. How the rules are enforced shouldn’t be determined by the player’s jersey. The only time Michigan, Penn State or Ohio State complain about the officiating is when they play each other. Because otherwise, they are held to a different standard. And after every game where one of the elite teams plays Rutgers, IU, Purdue, Maryland or Illinois, you will see complaints about how the elite team got preferential treatment by the officials. Why? Because that is how the game is played.

  5. I think it’s pretty clear to anyone paying attention over the years that the refs always give the benefit of the doubt to the blue blood teams when they’re playing lessor teams. I’m not saying the refs are consciously cheating, but they are predisposed to which team they believe is going to win and then make calls or fail to make calls, based on that predisposition. Compare the PI call made against Fant that wiped out an INT to the very last play of the game. Watch how Cobbs gets held as he’s trying to run his route. It was blatant holding. It was obvious. Look at how he then gets man handled and knocked down in the end zone, yet, there was no call. The refs ignored two blatant fouls on the same play. Try to explain the difference in the refs’ treatment of those two plays without involving referee bias. Good luck trying to explain that. Same thing happened in the end zone last year when IU played OSU. Zander through a catchable ball and IU’s receiver was mugged in the end zone. No call. Why? Because according to the refs, OSU was the better team and they were supposed to win that game.

  6. True…When we were a blue blood basketball program, Bobby could work the refs with the best of them.

    But how do you work the refs in football? The field is too wide and there’s too much friction to toss and slide a chair across the 50 yard line. Roll a Gatorade bucket aimed at a zebras legs?

    I would argue that it’s more the pedigree of the coach in determining the possibilities of skewing the officiating. Harbaugh simply has more perceived pedigree. I think there is also a certain amount of interpretation….Does the sideline outrage match up with the pedigree of the coach? Allen, a man with very little head coaching pedigree, bouncing around the sideline like a chicken with its head cut off is hard to take seriously. Harbaugh can say more with a frown than Allen doing cartwheels.
    It just is what it is…..Coaching pedigree goes a long way with the officials/refs. It’s earned via winning resumes, Final Fours, coaching teams to big bowls, etc.. The demeanor, decorum, or validation for a coach’s outrage must somewhat match up with the resume.

  7. It is very clear to me and anyone with eyes wide open that bias and predudicial calls are made consistently in the world of football; be it college or pro ball. Let us take for example our own situation with running backs. Again we see for the upcoming game with Michigan MM is still starting and Gest has been pushed down to 4 in the depth chart. Amazingly, elevating DW ( who has barely any consistent states this year to justify this promotion) over Gest who does have proven numbers. Gest also is the fastest (again proven numbers) of all the backs that Indiana has. Why then has he been put down to 4 in the chart.

      1. Indeed and it would have helped the feeble IU offense improve the rushing attack against Meatchicken. The blame belongs solely on DeBord and his RB coach Mike Hart. Now against MSU we’ll suffer through the same incompetent BS again.

  8. Which ref got knocked flat on their back or over-pursued leading to Higdon’s 59 yd, untouched TD run? Which ref missed tackling Hidgon in the backfield 4 yds behind the line of scrimmage only to let him escape past the over-pursuit for the winning 25 yd TD run? Which ref allowed 6.2 yds per carry?
    Which ref threw 2 INTs? Which ref decided to start a running back who I swear hasn’t had a positive carry all year? Which ref decided that throwing to our best receiver would be something we’d reserve for the last drive of the game? Which ref couldn’t get the ball in the endzone from 1st and Goal on the 1 yd line (actually, can’t remember the exact spot, but it was close)?

    Whining about the refs is loser talk. That why Indiana does it. The refs didn’t lose that game. Sure they missed a couple of calls, but if it weren’t for the 16 other penalties they called, Indiana wouldn’t have been in the game.

  9. ^^^Agree. It is loser talk. Michigan should be whining about even having Indiana as part of a conference schedule. Even if you win on the road against Indiana, your national ranking goes down. You have to beat us by a minimum of three touchdowns to maintain respectability.

  10. Just go out and win the game! The better team won. That is just the way it is. Get rid of instant replay and accept human error in officiating with officials going back to the responsibility of doing the best they can. Grade and evaluate officials rewarding games based on fair competent officials. Period.

  11. DD, your argument would have merit if IU had lost by 21 points or more, but it went to overtime. I guess you disagree with Coach Allen and IU’s Athletic Department and believe that they’re “whining” and participating in “loser talk.” If the refs were bad enough to justify IU filing a complaint with the Big Ten, which is not a regular occurrence, they were bad enough to cost IU the game. Obviously, the refs were not the only reason IU lost, but they were one of the reasons.

    1. Actually the refs kept IU in the game serving up 16 penalties to Meatchicken. 141 yd. of penalties. 60 yd. more than IU gained on the ground.

    2. What does a 21 pt loss vs overtime have to do with anything? Margins? Indiana had plenty of chances to win that game on their own and they didn’t. BLAME THE REFS!

      Indiana was outplayed in this game. They came back with a lot of heart in the 4th quarter to tie the game. Up until that point, Michigan was beating them up. They were having a tough time stopping the run, while in turn, getting their running game stuffed all day. Bad calls happen in every game. In all the years of watching this dogcrap program, the onside kick call and Fants PI rank in the 100s in terms of their egregiousness.

      Don’t you have a crowd-size to complain about anyway?

  12. And it was a Michigan team that got pretty blistered by MSU in Ann Arbor…..I wouldn’t make too much of our “almost.” Michigan is barely hanging into the top 20…..Their upcoming game against PSU will give a much better indicator of their mighty defense.

  13. “Dog crap program?” Wow!

    IU was outplayed in a game that was tied at the end of regulation? That’s an interesting point of view.
    On the other hand, if Fant’s INT was not negated with a penalty tacked on, or if Cobb’s recovery of the on-side kick was not overruled, or if Cobbs had not been blatantly held and knocked down in the end zone, Michigan would have been outplayed.

    1. You have no point of view other than your own. We get it. You’re here just to tell us. No discussion changes your mind. Ever. So no need for me to respond.

      In the meantime, please complain again…more emphatically this time…about how no one will take their hard earned money and even more precious time out of their lives, to show up and watch a team that hasn’t won a big game against a respectable team in two decades. Oh, and how that hurts recruiting.

      If anyone wants to understand why Indiana stinks at football, look to this exchange. The grooves human beings repeatedly put themselves and their minds into can be very very powerful. The stories they tell repeatedly…over and over…as if they’re new insights. They’re just more of the same. Nothing changes. Again and again and again and again. And the ceiling fan turns and turns…

      1. But one does have to feel IU Football’s pain….(with regards to poor attendance).

        We could put a high school JV team coached by the Pillsbury Doughboy into Assembly Hall….and the place would still fill to the rafters with clapping zombies for nearly a decade.

  14. Michigan will play Penn State tough and may even win… Just because physically and athletically they can compete and have tradition. Didn’t say Mich would win. I would pick P.S. but I would not say it was an upset if Mich won.

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