Mr. Football honoree Reese Taylor ready for switch to defense

The playbook goes everywhere Reese Taylor does — his campus dorm, Memorial Stadium and all points in between.

As Taylor acclimates to college football — and a new side of the ball, at that — he’s using every available moment to learn coach Tom Allen’s defense and his upcoming role inside of it.

“It’s in my book bag 24-7,” Taylor said Tuesday. “Every free time I get, I’m in it so I can learn as much (and make it) as easy as I can so when I get on the field, it’s second nature.”

After a high school run that saw him dazzle at the quarterback position, lead Ben Davis to a Class 6A state title and earn Indiana Mr. Football honors, Taylor is prepared to start over with a new position at IU.

This summer, Taylor is beginning his transition to cornerback, where he and the Hoosiers hope he’ll be able to help a retooling Indiana defense before long.

“Wherever Coach Allen needs me, that’s where I’m gonna be at,” Taylor said. “I’m gonna play as much as I can, wherever I can be.”

That’s not to say Taylor will be used exclusively in the secondary.

On Signing Day last December, Allen hinted that he’d like to get creative and find ways to use Taylor’s athleticism and playmaking abilities to their full potential through a special offensive package.

Taylor, after all, broke Ben Davis career records with 7,631 passing yards and 79 passing touchdowns, while completing nearly 69 percent of his passes in high school. He also rushed for 2,077 yards, averaged 5.5 yards per carry and scored 45 touchdowns on the ground.

“You start watching the games as they unfold, and this guy is really a talented quarterback, and he’s making plays with his legs, with his arms, with his brain, and decision making and the ability to create,” Allen said on Signing Day. “So you just say, ‘Hey, this guy is a special talent with the ball in his hands.'”

Whether the 5-foot-11 Taylor gets to play both ways — and to what extent — likely won’t be fully determined until later this summer. But Taylor says he’ll make the most of any opportunity.

He just wants to get on the field.

“If I get a chance to be on offense, I’m gonna do my best, do what I tried to do at Ben Davis,” Taylor said. “But it’s college. It’s a bigger, faster, stronger league, so I’m gonna do the best I can on offense, if I get the ball.”

At this point, Taylor’s focus is learning the finer points of the cornerback position, working on his backpedalling, while taking advice from position coach Brandon Shelby and some of IU’s veteran players.

As he learns his new role, he’s trying to tap into his quarterback experience by identifying tendencies and watching plays develop using his background under center.

“I kind of think of my quarterback skills and what I would do personally,” Taylor said. “If it’s a pro-style quarterback, I know he’s going to get the ball out fast. But if it’s a dual threat, he’s gonna be able to roll out and do what he does, or how I used to do it. So I’ll have to use the same aspects.”

Taylor is the first Mr. Football honoree to commit to IU since Lawrence Central quarterback Tre Roberson did so in 2010.

He didn’t play defense in high school, but Taylor is eager to make the switch now. Through long days and longer nights staring into his playbook, Taylor expects to be ready to contribute when camp opens later this summer.

“I’d rather hit somebody than get hit,” Taylor said. “I’d rather play defense.”

62 comments

  1. Gotta admit, there is wisdom to his comment,“I’d rather hit somebody than get hit!” The key for this young man is his versatility. I say we can expect to see him in many roles on both sides of the ball.

  2. From his comments it is nice to hear that he is all in. Team player and he is willing to play where he can and may be needed…Not like a few others who if they didn’t get their way they took their ball and went elsewhere or home.

  3. If Tim Tebow was as smart as Reese Taylor he might be in the NFL now instead of being a curiosity exhibit for a Class F baseball team.

    How far has Steve Spurrier’s star fallen?

  4. Probably best used on defense. Nonetheless, I find it curious and frustrating that IU has had “Mr. Footballs” from Indiana and Florida and other states and the end result is that they never are developed and used properly. Tre Roberson should’ve been the man instead of being sporadically used. Tronti and Star were brushed aside for a spunky, undersized Ohio Kid. Now, a grad transfer that couldn’t successfully compete at Arizona. For that very reason, 4* David Bell will be likely at Purdue. (Can you blame him?) So far this season (As usual), Iowa has recruited Indiana better than IU. Purdue will have 4, 4*, 3 from Indiana. I see that supposed 2018 4* RB Ron Walker, from Virginia, isn’t even on the depth chart. What’s up with that? Hunter Johnson obviously wasn’t all that enamored with IU’s OC (former Tenn commit) . Allen has done a nice job with the defense and overall attitude of the program but the unfortunate reality is that his assistants aren’t very effective when recruiting at a power 5 level. Let me say that again. His staff, and whoever is working the phones aren’t getting it done! Purdue was a train wreck when Bobinski convinced Brohm. Almost overnight he has put together a far superior staff, in particular, recruiting. If we thought Purdue dominated the game last year, I suspect it will be worse this year. On paper, IU’s offense maybe 12th or worse in the BIG when play begins. That new strength and conditioning team better be as good as advertised, they’ll need it.

    1. What depth chart did you see? And Jeff Brohm won’t be at Purdonkey much longer. He’ll be at a major program after this season. My money is on LSU.

      1. FS,
        I was kind of wondering that myself, glad you mentioned it. Wondering if we are dealing with an ole pu plant? Why down on Dawkins? He lost his starting job to a phenomenonal football player in the form of Khalil Tate. If he has as good a season as last year, Tate will be on this year’s Heisman short list. I don’t know of too many QBs at a lot of schools who wouldn’t be taking a back seat to Tate as well.

    2. Switch divisions and IU goes bowling last season and Purdue stays home. Nothing special happened in West Laffy last year. The bar is much lower for the Boils.

      1. Why bother…Let’s simply resign to the fact that the South is where it’s at when it comes to football and baseball. Those who dominate the Big Ten are
        rarely all that relevant in the “Big Picture.” Legends and Leaders? Who even does that to a conference? Why didn’t we just go with ‘Special’ and ‘Very Special?’
        IU Football would have most certainly been in the ‘Very Special’ division.

        Simply going back to East and West divisions changes nothing from what was closer to reality under the cute names of Legends and Leaders. It is a conference with a severe inferiority complex….and most of the inferiority is justified.
        Basketball was the only thing the Big Ten had to brag of championships…Most of that bragging was because of one college tucked in the hillbilly limestone hills of southern Indiana. Let’s get back to what we once did right….Romeo may be from southern Indiana but he ain’t from the South. And he ain’t from Jersey.
        He’s 100% Hoosier and he has the potential to make Indiana and the Big Ten more relevant overnight than four decades of counting the cat hairs on football and baseball at IU.

  5. On a sliding scale PUke’s new AD Bobinski is as good as Morgan Burke was poor. Putting a fast feather in his cap with the Brohm hire also puts him on a slippery slope making another hire in the short term to replace Brohm on Brohm’s timetable. Hard to catch lightning twice in W. Laffy.

  6. Somebody said Brohm will soon leave for a “major” program. And then the “major” implied a school from the South. Agree. Nothing of Big Ten football is of a “major” classification. a) It’s all North. b) None of it’s in the South.
    And if we’re pulling ponytails with Purdon’t, we’re basically slapping the lipstick on IU’s pigskin pig lips the same. Our big weekend in football? We fight PU for a cute oak barrel found in a football consignment shop. It once held the vomit from OSU football players attending “Legendary” frat parties during recruiting weekends….

    I don’t care what the Yankees say…..

  7. ^^^The above video/song was a dedication to the soon to be legendary blogger of Scoop who “sojourned” the South for over four decades in a quest to consume massive quantities of okra, succotash and football.

  8. Mr. Football from Indiana? Is that like winning Miss Siberia? And where in the hell is Husky Tom hiding?

  9. Brad, your post above has quite a negative undertone and several inaccurate comments. First, Tre Roberson was IU’s starting QB. You may recall that he broke his leg in an early season game and was out for the remainder of that season. His injury opened the door for another good QB to come in and compete for the starting position. That other guy (Sudfeld) was pretty good too! He got drafted and was the back-up QB on last year’s Super Bowl Champions.

    Tronti was not “brushed aside,” he chose to transfer. And for good reason. He was looking at being fourth or fifth on the depth chart behind more experienced/talented players. In making him the scout team QB last year, Tronti was actually getting a lot of coaching from DeBord and staff, and he was recognized as the Scout Team Player of the Year.

    Dawkins is likely to turn out to be the best QB IU has had in decades. As thinkaboutit pointed out in his post, Dawkins simply lost his starting job at Arizona to a phenomenal talent named Khalil Tate, who, if he stays healthy, has a good chance of winning the Heisman Trophy this season. Dawkins is a very good dual threat QB with a lot more experience than any other QB on IU’s roster.

    And there is nothing new about other Big Ten teams, like Iowa, recruiting the state of Indiana better than IU recruits in-state talent. Hello! That’s been going on for decades.

    Brad, your comments imply criticism of Tom Allen. The man’s just getting started. It’s going to take time and some luck before he can transform IU Football from a Big Ten doormat into a winner. If you’re frustrated, direct your disdain toward the people in IU’s Administration who have neglected and mismanaged IU Football over the last five decades.

    1. For P and V. If a grad transfer with 1 year of eligibility is likely to be the best QB at IU in decades, well, you have made my point. Tre was healthy a year later. His scoring ratio per touches was tops in the BIG Ten. As you’ll recall, he took an overmatched Illinois State to 2 National Championship games. As for developing Indiana kids at Iowa, it doesn’t matter. The point is IU wanted and lost them. I was at the Oct 1960 stadium dedication homecoming as an 11 year old. MSU 35-IU 0. It’s likely I have suffered with the decades ineptitude more than any of you on this page. As for Purdue, it shows what can be done.

  10. Brad, Iowa has recruited Indy well but name one player from Indiana that has done well at Iowa and become a star player or even a starter.

    It will be interesting to see where Taylor plays and how much he plays this year. I wonder if Dawkins takes the role coach Allen envisioned for Taylor. I am glad Taylor is at IU and expect he will become a star over the next couple of years through special teams and defense.

  11. If I were T.A. and DeBord, I’d be very careful about allowing Taylor to get too far away from playing QB. In spite of his height, he has phenomenal talent and put up some eye-popping numbers as a HS QB. I know Taylor wants to play as soon as possible, but his talent as a play-making QB is very rare and worth polishing throughout his freshman year. After Dawkins is done, and assuming IU loses another QB to transfer, IU may need Taylor to be a full-time occupant of the Quarterback Room. And please don’t give me that crap about 5’11” being too short to play QB in college. Good Lord, if Drew Brees was a freshman QB today, some genius would probably try to make him into a defensive back.

    1. Po, I concur completely. Playing on both sides of the ball is double good. He is way too talented not to develop early and exploit on opponents.

  12. Taylor is a playmaker (phenomenal talent)…can the present IU offensive staff notice a good, maybe an exceptional offensive talent (qb, slot receiver, punt returner, return man, etc)?

    1. 79,
      Taylor may excel at ALL those positions! He is a fantastic athletic talent. How about having him on the field with a dual threat QB at the same time? Can you imagine the DC sleepless nights? I believe the Steelers won a Super Bowl doing something along those lines with another very good former IU QB.

  13. Michael Penix is a better qb with better upside yall drinkin the cool aid of a guy thats 5’10 160 he’s not a college qb sorry if your a halfway decent recruiter you can find a qb with better size arm and athletic ability

  14. BB,
    I believe you have hit the real point, but wouldn’t be fun to see Penix at QB and Taylor lining up in a variety of positions? Penix a dual threat and Taylor a triple threat. That to me is a DC nightmare.

  15. thinkaboutit, I agree that if the two every get on the field together in the future it would create nightmares for DCs. This year having Dawkins and Ramsey together would create problems due to Ramsey’s accuracy and Dawkins run pass ability.

    The offense should be much improved this year with the returning players and additional players added to the team. It was not a surprise last year based on 2016 offense but now with experienced players back there is no reason for it not to be more explosive.

    1. V13,
      Am I correct in suspecting TA’s approach to offense is to do the things he knows cause DCs considerable heartburn? Just seems logical with TA being a rather formidable DC himself, that he would use that knowledge. It would seem to make sense he would take the things which caused him concern as a DC and use it against other DCs. I don’t think he was able to do this ver well last year due to lacking the personnel to prosecute such a plan. May not have all the pieces yet for this year, but I think with the QB room being basically interchangeable stylistically speaking is a clue. They have varying skill levels, but all are dual threat QBs.

      1. Am I correct in suspecting TA’s KW’s approach to offense defense is to do the things he knows cause DCs OCs considerable heartburn?

        I think that’s always been the argument for a one-dimensional head coach. Whatever has had success in stopping the offensive genius would surely work if taught to our own defenders….Whatever I had difficulty stopping as a defensive coach is exactly what I want to put into my offensive set of marbles. If it were only so simple to execute and find talent as it is to make “logical.”

        I hope Allen’s approach to offense is to put most of it in the adept hands of a very strong offensive coordinator and offensive coaching staff.

      2. thinkaboutit, Debords offense is a west coast style offense that will use many weapons on offense and spread the ball out. This year will experienced players and ones that know the play book I expect the offense will be more explosive. When you look back to UM’s offense when he was OC defenses couldn’t tell what was coming in many cases. I hope DeBord is more like the OC like he was at UM as it really spread out the offense while still having a strong running game.

  16. Anyone catch on that IU has “reverted” to a playbook? Recall that Wilson dispensed with playbooks in favor of video ’cause “These are college kids, they don’t read,” or words to that effect. Of course not, who reads in college?

    1. Let’s quit playing the “cloudy memory” card out of history’s playbook….We all know Wilson had a very antagonistic side(especially to those investigating his motives, sincere passion, and leadership qualities). JPat described Wilson as a “jerk” only weeks after his hire. Wilson was always going to give the sarcastic answer …or the smart aleck answer. He took the job knowing the history at IU….but he had enough confidence in his abilities to spit in the face of mockery or doubt in his methods.
      Wilson’s offense was very dynamic and complemented by future NFL running backs. Don’t hear a lot of talk about power running in the football discussions….If you’re relying on your running game to primarily reside in the legs of your qb, you may end up needing three or four quarterbacks to get you through a season because they’ll be dropping like flies.
      OSU and many premier Big Ten teams have “dual threat” corners and linebackers(they also have histories and abilities to play five different positions on both sides of the ball)…..The dual threat usually means ‘All-American’ and ‘1st Round Draft Pick.’

  17. From my understanding(see attached link), a lot of Wilson’s play calling is predicated on the trust/experience/decision making in the quarterback to read the middle linebacker. I would imagine film study would likely be a better teaching tool to hammer home what to look for in the defensive linebacker’s commitment/movement early in the play. The “dynamics” and “threats” of a premier quarterback are also built into his qb’s maturity and decision making complementing the athletic gifts(dual threat, etc).

    I fear we’re getting into the same trap with football that was used to sell Crean’s methods of madness in basketball; an inflated reliance on potential and athleticism….and promises of “upside” based on legs and arms and wings …and leaping ability and new conditioning methods much of which is negated because of low levels of savvy, instincts and time-tested abilities present in the recruit upon arrival.

    Can you keep an athlete long enough in a college uniform to a optimal degree when his original rawness in football/basketball IQ finally begins to converge/merge/intersect with his natural athletic gifts?
    The true “dual threat” is having an athlete as crafty and astute as his athletic gifts.

    https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/film-study/2017/01/79473/film-study-analyzing-kevin-wilsons-style-of-play-calling

  18. H4H, I don’t see coach Allen as a “Crean” who couldn’t figure out substitutions on the court. Coach Allen has done very good things for IU FB and despite many not wanting to acknowledge the weaknesses last year the offense scored more points than the 2016 offense under Wilson’s play calling. I am reserving judgement on our offensive coaches until this 2018 season when they have experieced and talented players to see how good they can make our offense.

    Coach Wilson had very good offenses with talented players but still call a number of questionable plays. He also struggled when he lost Nate at QB in 2014 and 2016. Yes he could draw up gimmicky offenses that worked one game when the opponent didn’t prepare for it. Wilson is a very good offensive coach but not a football god. Personally I would rate Littrell as a more talented offensive coach. The ideal combination would be Littrell with Allen but Ihope DeBord shows he can get back to his UM and TN offenses scoring 36 points or more a game.

    1. Maybe not a coaching “god”….but when I see a guy go from Indiana to running THE Ohio State Buckeye offense, I’m figuring it could be the biggest fumble in Indiana history.
      I think the questionable play calling requires a bit more detail….Are you referring to fourth down calls? I don’t know if the cupboard could have been anymore bare than when Wilson arrived…I would surmise that risk taking and keeping drives going was a way to battle deficiencies in depth/size/talent …and the possibilities of teams wearing down.
      Some may want to rewrite history…But Wilson brought excitement to a football program that had none. Without the “questionable” risk taking and hurry-up style, I doubt we’re experiencing any of the current momentum Allen was able to inherit/build off….Just my opinion but as far as the “god” of the conference in the sport of football? That’s Ohio State. You get hired by OSU and it’s sort of a pretty strong endorsement of knowing your craft.

      1. H4H,
        I’m not ready to call KW to OSU the biggest fumble in IU FB history. Not getting Knute Rockne to coach your football team when you had the chance, would likely be the biggest. As for KW at OSU I am reserving judgement until this year or next, just like I am TA at IU. Reason being giving time for players to adapt to new coaches and systems and coaches getting some of their recruits in place.

        Otherwise I would say based on the OSU available talent pool anything other than the BCS playoffs should be considered a failure for KW. Giving KW the benefit of the doubt, his 2017 offense was a top ten unit. However both Oklahoma and Iowa held that unit far below their top ten average. Like I said this year and next will tell the story on KW at OSU, just like it will TA at IU.

        1. I don’t know what constitutes failure at OSU for an OC…Obviously, he’s not commanding the defense and not being a head coach allows for somewhat of a buffer from ultimate responsibility. I would imagine the OSU standard for success is very high for any coach.
          And if it’s not the biggest fumble in IU history, then maybe it’s the biggest interception.
          I won’t pretend to even halfway understand the implementation of a dynamic college football offense….All I can do is judge with my eyes and make comparisons as it relates to how we looked different or the same(and apply those samples of viewership to my historical library of watching college and NFL football since a very young age).

          IU Football looked very different under Wilson. There was urgency and deception. There appeared to be a method to madness rather than just methods…or just madness. There was never resignation. What occurred was a real transformation as teams actually played as if they belonged on the same field as many of the elite teams from the conference.

          Have we ever had a high level coach leave(or be told to leave) Indiana only to end up at Ohio State? Maybe that’s not the biggest fumble, but it has to be one of the most ironic….
          Will announcers give us free advertising when covering OSU in their next BCS coverage…? e.g. “That’s Kevin Wilson in the booth engineering this dynamic and well-oiled Buckeye offensive attack….Formerly the head coach at one of the most respected Big
          Ten bottom dwellers, the Indiana Hoosiers. How on earth did that happen? Kevin lost his job at Indiana after going all Woody Hayes on a benchwarmer by lightheartedly insinuating he wasn’t eating enough of his morning Wheaties. It was talked about for 10 minutes on an ESPN ’30 For 30’….And now that Kevin is at OSU, it will be remembered for about as long as a UNC academic scandal.”

      2. H4H, I can give you a particular detail but it occurred many times. Last time IU played at OSU, they had the ball inside the 10 following a Riggins interception return. Coach called 3 straight runs between tackle while we only gained 3 yards. Later IU was still in the game but had the ball inside their own 15 and Wilson called a pass play that resulted tremendous pressure on Lagow who threw the ball as he was getting hit throwing an interception. Mos to the questionableplay calls were second and third down plays.

        I was a proponent of Wilson’s offense but don’t degrade DeBord’s over Wilson’s play calling when Debord’s offense outscored Wilson’s last offense at IU. Now if Debord’s offense isn’t more explosive and doesn’t score 35 or more points a game I will see DeBord’s offensive game plan as lacking.

        1. Your making a 1-year judgment/comparison to Wilson when, if I’m not mistaken, Allen is having the momentum of recruits/rebuilding initiated by Wilson(and the the fact he put two future NFL running backs in a Hoosier uniform).
          Maybe you should reserve your comparisons for when Allen is totally running his own show and any remnants of a KW team has done a complete recruiting turnover/cycle….?
          But there is no denying Allen was capturing the residual of something Wilson had built….(whether or not you were a fan of particular play calls in particular instances).
          The overall product under Wilson was better than it had been for decades at Memorial…and certainly a far more exciting brand of football.
          Retaining momentum shall be a curious experiment…..especially as we go into ‘pineapple upside down cake’ mode and beginning with defensive expertise in hopes of limiting scores and garnering offensive possessions/opportunities for are own scoring output. But limiting your opponent only marginally may not be enough if the offensive dynamics still fall far short of Wilson’s talent/schemes/playbook.

          But at the end of the day, your limited sample set to bolster Allen’s offensive output(immediately and conveniently used in the immediacy of Wilson’s abrupt departure) is wrought in bias because last year and the year before is still a wave of momentum built by KW…It was KW who stuck with the hurry-up style, was willing to put his ideas to true test via risky play calling(and fourth down calls) to capture bigger rewards, brought in very dynamic running backs, and, ultimately, created the drastic cultural changes that legitimized and build excitement into a comatose program. Wilson did those things without having to be advertised to recruits as “devout” or acting like a Tom Crean kangaroo crazily hopping around on the sideline in giddy blissfulness over one good tackle(or “deflection”).

          1. And the biggest irony of all is that Allen may never take the DC job at IU without the offensive excitement, competitiveness legitimacy, and cultural transformations Wilson initiated. Would Allen have taken a head coaching job at IU under the same scenario Wilson came into Bloomington? Would Allen get such an offer ? Would he even be willing to assume such career risk taking even if his name was in the mix 9 years ago? For all intents and purposes, Allen has the head coaching gig because someone else was willing to assume such risk…..Allen came into IU after much of the career risk was “contained”(please forgive defensive jargon).

          2. As I said, the one example was one of many as there isn’t room on this site to list all the play calls like the MN game with a swing pass need the end zone that kept Iu from winning that game. I also said I liked Wilson’s offense but liked it more with Littrel was the OC. We have seen UNC and now Texas North’s offense explode when he was the OC play caller with UNC declining since he left. I see him even a better OC that Wilson. I appreciate the job Wilson did changing the culture at IU and recognized he set the table for any success IU has in the future. However his act was on the decline with players, admin, and recruits especially with the declining recruiting classes. I still say Wilson is a very good OC but I think the Iowa debacle, focusing on the pass despite 4 ints, is the reason Wilson is pulled off OC duties on game day at OSU. Was he the right coach at the time IU hired him, I think he was and what IU needed at the time.

          3. Huh….? Wilson was removed as OSU’s OC during a game? Did that actually happen?
            I’ll defer to your expertise. I just think we have to be careful with offensive output comparisons until Allen has three or four years under his belt (rather than using comparison numbers in the first season after Wilson’s departure). We’ll see….

    2. I’ve never seen play calling from Wilson as bland, inept and inconsequential as I saw from DeBord last year. The last few minutes to finish the Meatchicken game was a ‘cut the cake’ moment. The Blue fans sitting behind me were incredulous over what they were witnessing. Total ineptness. I’m convinced DeBord has to have high quality talent to be successful. It is verified by his resume. Marginally better talent available this year may save his bacon. The Virginia game results will reveal much.

  19. bb, since I have never seen either Penix or Taylor play in a live game, I can’t say who is the better quarterback. But it appears that at this stage, height and the fact that he attended Spring Practice are the only advantages Penix has over Taylor. Both are great athletes, and both were highly successful quarterbacks in High School. I really like Penix, but at this point, I don’t think anyone can say that Penix is a better QB than Taylor. All I’m saying is that if the only issue about Taylor is that he’s 5’11”, and not 6’4″, that is not a valid reason to prevent him from competing at quarterback. And my point is, “great, Taylor provides value because he can do a lot of other things on the field, but don’t let his QB skills get too rusty because next year, if IU happens to lose another QB to transfer, he’s going to be needed in the QB room.”

    And I’m not saying that it’s going to happen, but let’s assume Dawkins is the starter this season. Then in 2019, Penix ascends to the starting position. Under that scenario, I could see Ramsey deciding to transfer. He’d have two years of eligibility left and as a former starter, he probably wouldn’t be too keen on carrying a clipboard for his last two seasons. If that scenario plays out, IU would be left with a very young QB room again, and Taylor will be splitting reps in practice with Penix and some new freshman recruit.

  20. If any QB transfers then you recruit another one Taylor is corner plain and simple im just not buyin he’s a legit QB in college even if he himself thought so he wouldve went somewhere where he would play QB dont you think?oh yeah Tre Roberson is a CFL not NFL cornerback now so he cant even play QB in that league and i liked him as a QB

  21. Respect for IU fb program? (Players). As soon as IU gets a transfer qb that may work out (or may not as good as hoped for, don’t know yet) and a couple of higher 3 star qbs then transfer from program starts up. Former IU recruit qb Tommy Stevens who decommitted for Penn State has stayed with program playing a just a little bit and has set on bench. However, T. Stevens stayed with Lions though there were places he could have played more. T. Stevens was a higher 3 star also. So was Austin King. Yes, qb’s transfer at other schools also. However, as soon as IU gets a little unproven in IU system and not great depth at qb position immediately the word transfer comes up. In the recent past to many transfers (not just one or two) have taken place at qb position. Where is the respect for the opportunity to be a member of the IU football team. If you want to play beat the other guy out.

    1. I made the trip from Tampa to Happy Valley last year with a friend (Penn St fan) to watch the IU/Penn St game. I got to chat with a good group of Penn St fans in my section and you wouldn’t believe how many of them want Stevens to play over McSorley.

      1. Depending on who gets recruited to play QB at PSU, I fear Stevens will exhaust his eligibility holding a clipboard.

  22. It is not credible to say that a young man who had “7,631 passing yards, 79 passing touchdowns, while completing nearly 69 percent of his passes, rushed for 2,077 yards and scored 45 touchdowns on the ground” is not good enough to play quarterback in college. It’s not like Taylor was playing for an 8-man football team in rural North Dakota. He played at the highest level of HS Football in Indiana and achieved a level of success that few HS QBs could even dream of.

    We see evidence of what I call “the height bias” as it applies to quarterbacks all the time, at all levels of football (and to a lesser extent the other major sports). Yet there are many examples of guys who were “too short” that went on to be extremely successful college and NFL quarterbacks. Doug Flutie, Drew Brees, Fran Tarkington, etc. (I could go on, but you get the point), and most recently, the NFL’s #1 draft pick. What “short” quarterbacks lack in height, they often make up in mobility. And having grown up shorter than many of their peers, the shorter guys often develop more of the intangible qualities necessary to be successful, such as competitiveness, mental toughness, creativity, and sheer determination. “It’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog.”

    If developed properly, I’m confident Taylor could make a contribution to IU football as a quarterback. Whether he’s the best quarterback on the team or not, or whether quarterback is where he would be most valuable to the team are other questions, but I believe it is always a mistake to rule a guy like that out simply because of his height. As for his weight, Taylor will have to do that regardless of what position he plays, and obviously he can gain weight and strength through IU’s S&C program over time. I could see Taylor playing at 180 – 185 lbs. while maintaining his speed and quickness as his body matures.

    Bottom line: I’m glad Taylor is on IU’s Football team.

  23. I am R.T. fan also as stated in posts when he committed. If qb’s replicate R.L. as in moving ball down field and then make killer turn overs and then snowballs into stagnation will open door for R.T. opportunity at QB. Up til now there is fairly good odds for that to happen regarding IU football.

    1. t, IU isn’t going to make turnovers like Lagow did because that QB won’t stay in the game. The reason Ramsey beat out Lagow was due to his ints and if someone beats out Ramsey they will have the same short leash on ints. This coaching staff is about limiting TOs on offense and are focus to do that.

      1. That word just always seems to pop up when discussing IU’s two major sports: Turnovers. Turnovers plagued the last decade of IU hoops under Crean and his conglomeration of “upside” athletes ….And now “turnovers” is being used to describe much of the Wilson tenure and his field leaders…..
        Can there be any other indicator more expressive than incompetency in sports programs than a propensity to continually turn the ball over to the opposition? it reeks of being poorly coached, unprepared, undisciplined, aloof at your position, and merely resigned to the fact that mistakes have no consequences. It also speaks very clearly to the shortcomings in the area of mental maturity and savvy in those key positions on the field and on the hardwood that are instrumental in team leadership and big victories.
        If Lilly King turned over as much as frequently as the lost possessions in our football and basketball programs, she’d look like a Mepps spinner in a 20 ft. pool.
        Where does the a buck stop when such a glaring indicator of incompetence was allowed in our major sports programs for the last decade? It is a function of those in top jobs assuming a lot of favor and protection with a boss simply not demanding what should be a minimal Indiana standard? Quite pathetic that we looked like the Keystone Cops at key positions in both sports for over a decade. There was obviously a broken formula in coaching hires and the choices those coaches made for recruits who had zero moxie and discipline within their character.

      2. I always thought Ramsey did a pretty good job considering the dumpster fire he was handed. He didn’t have a big arm but he was extremely accurate…especially for a guy who often released the ball as he was being hit.

        He was an effective runner until everybody caught on the our offensive shortcomings.

        I thought he did pretty well and I am happy he is in the mix. The kid has skills.

  24. I would guess that R.T. is better than A.D. and A.D. was undefeated against P.U. and was instrumental in each win.

  25. I don’t care what Zandy did or didn’t achieve against PU. He was not safe playing Big Ten football. He was fortunate to get out of town as unbroken kindling…..When he was playing against the ‘big boys’ of the conference, it was akin to intentionally sending Little Red Riding Hood into the unassuming house Grandma Wilson had rented out to a hungry wolf. He may have been “instrumental” in an Oaken Bucket game…but I watched many a play where I feared for his life. His danger level scrambling in desperation was closer to crawling in a ‘bucket’ and going over Niagara…..

    1. H4H,
      Your comments reminded me of something a few years ago which adds much credence to you spot comments. I too, often feared for Zander’s health as I do all “running QBs.” The biggest question when opting for such an offensive approach is what happens if QB #1 goes down to injury. Remembering the Alabama/Texas championship game a few years ago. Colt McCoy runs the option on a play in the first quarter and gets nailed by a real defense, not the Big 12 variety. End of game for Texas.

      How durable a dual threat QB can be depends a lot on size and strength. Another part of the equation is will they be able to make the correct decisions? Many choose to run first and shorten their careers, but those able to play within what the game gives them tend to last a little longer. When we talk about a Drew Brees or a Russell Wilson being able to compete, good judgement serves to compliment their durability despite their lack of heigth.

      1. I watched a super-promising qb, a high school freshman teammate lose his entire football future because the coach converted him to a running back when moved to the varsity squad in his sophomore year. The coach wanted his only son, a rather small kid, to start at varsity qb and moved Mr. Promising into a full time halfback. He ran over people until one fateful night he blew out his knee.
        He actually had size. Legs like a human frog. Massive upper thighs and hamstrings. He was also a wonderful baseball player…Started at basketball as well. He was built like a grown man when he was a freshman in high school. Big shoulders…big head…about 6-2 and heavier than Diamonte at 14 years old….and he was lean. And he was smart. And he was a heartthrob to the girls of Chesterton. Had his choice of dates on any weekend. Popular. Good looking. He probably would have had a fabulous college football career. But the varsity coach at Chesterton wanted his son in the glamour qb position …..and he ended the football life of a rather poor kid who lived on the “other side of the tracks” in Porter, Indiana(adjacent to Chesterton but primarily lower income families who could send their kids to Chesterton high school).
        But the coach’s son was not going to simply play defensive back ….The coach’s son was going to be the qb. He would throw the ball and hand the ball off to the young man from Porter with college career stamped on his big heart and big frame….until his knees would take no more. I remember them carrying him off the field on the last night he ever wore a football uniform. You can have it all ….and have one selfish decision by a coach take it all away.

  26. Regardless of which position Mr. Taylor plays, lets just hope Mr. Taylor has a successful and injury free career playing football at Indiana University.

  27. Just read RB Cole Gest recorded a top speed of 23.8 mph in a speed drill. I don’t know much about this mph relative to humans but it certainly shows he is responding positively to the new training. Get a couple of WR’s and a couple more DL’s kicking up a dust storm and more fireworks will be needed for home games.

  28. Didn’t say Z was safe. Yes, he did make it out of town in one piece. Just saying he was undefeated against P.U. I didn’t think Randell El was safe when he played because of what was demanded from him and what he demanded for himself. Randell El just kept on ticking and IU got all the way up to 5 wins.

    1. Randell El was listed as 5-10/194 as a junior. (2.72 lbs. per inch).
      Zandy was listed as 6-1/180 as a junior. (2.46 lbs. per inch).

      Zandy would have needed to be 198 lbs if applying the same lbs. per inch carried in Randel El’s frame….73 inches(Zander’s height) x 2.72(Randel’s lbs. per inch) = 198 lbs.

      We also have to consider the nearly 20 years difference in playing era. The weights and sizes of lineman/linebackers/d-backs have gone up across the board considerably in two decades …(along with the forces in explosive hits). Bigger…faster…stronger.
      Zander was 20 lbs underweight even if sent in a time machine back to 1998. He was criminally unsafe in 2017. And my guess is that Zander’s weight was likely exaggerated…He was probably 165 with a 2 lb. cigar in his mouth.

  29. H4H, didn’t say Wilson was remove as OC in a game but he now can’t call plays during the game as he was removed as an OC game day play caller. Meyers made the move after the season but I bet it was from throwing the ball so much despite the 4 ints in the Iowa game.

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