4 Things We Learned: Ohio State 51, Indiana 10

1. Running game is a problem.

Worries about Indiana’s ability to run the football first arose in the opener with Ball State, but it was an opener. The Hoosiers then came out and established the ground game as well as necessary versus FCS-level Eastern Illinois.

Those two games could be taken with a grain of salt, and the Hoosiers’ lopsided loss to No. 6 Ohio State isn’t the last word. But three games in, a trend is starting to develop.

It was quickly apparent the Buckeyes were in control of the trenches, and the Hoosiers were going to have a hard time staying “on schedule” with handoffs to Stevie Scott. At half, IU had nine yards rushing. The Hoosiers’ 42 for the game was their worst total since a 29-yard effort versus No. 17 Michigan State last year.

Again, some defenses are just that good, and maybe the Buckeyes will prove to be that. But there are reasons to be concerned about the Hoosiers’ end of the equation. Whether Michael Penix Jr. or Peyton Ramsey is the starter at quarterback, they need a run game to put them in more manageable second- and third-down situations. And they need it soon.

The Hoosiers rank 13th in the Big Ten in rushing offense. They are averaging just 3.1 yards per carry. That won’t win a lot of football games.

2. Tackling is a real concern.

This works along the same lines as worries about the running game.

IU struggled to tackle in Week 1 versus Ball State, but that was an opener. The Hoosiers swarmed to the ball versus EIU, and that conversation was put to bed for a week.

But against the Buckeyes, there were multiple missed tackles per play. At least a half-dozen Hoosiers whiffed on J.K. Dobbins on his 26-yard touchdown run in the second quarter.

Teams can grow through a season, and maybe a couple of poor tackling efforts early in the season will spur growth in that area. For now, though, it’s a major issue and not just a one-off occurrence for the Hoosiers.

The Buckeyes’ 314 rushing yards bumped the per carry average of Hoosier opponents to 4.1. Only Northwestern, Purdue and Rutgers join IU as Big Ten teams allowing more than four yards per rush on the season.

3. Penix is week-to-week.

The redshirt freshman quarterback wasn’t healthy enough to take the field, but he was able to dress. Penix stood next to Ramsey and handed him balls as he went through warmups pregame.

Whether the result would have been much different with Penix under center is debatable. He has a stronger arm than Ramsey, which defenses have to respect. But this was a blowout, and the Buckeyes were the better team in a long list of ways Saturday.

Now the question is when the Hoosiers add Penix’s arm back into the equation. If his undisclosed injury isn’t a long-term concern, as Tom Allen reiterated postgame, maybe he could be back for UConn this week. Or maybe the coaching staff sits him one more game and that allows him the best chance to be healthy for the remainder of the Big Ten schedule.

The Hoosiers were hoping quarterback wouldn’t be a week-to-week question when Penix was named the starter following fall camp, but it appears that could be the case for at least a portion of the regular season.

4. A wide gap remains.

Much has been made of the Hoosiers’ advances in recruiting over the last couple of years. Back-to-back top 50 classes is an unprecedented event for IU football.

But there was still a world of difference between OSU and IU on the football field Saturday.

That isn’t a surprise. It takes time for recruiting victories to translate into wins on a football field. And a program with the prestige of Ohio State has access to another tier of football talent rarely available to a school that’s spent too many years in the Big Ten cellar.

Make mistakes as the Hoosiers did Saturday, and a lopsided score is almost inevitable.

At the same time, a 51-10 result is still disappointing for a program that wants to say it’s on the upswing. IU missed an opportunity to make that statement.

What’s next?

Connecticut, Saturday, noon, at Memorial Stadium, BTN.

Following the Hoosiers’ 25th straight loss to the Buckeyes, they will have the chance to take frustrations out on a struggling American Athletic Conference program.

UConn is coming off of a 1-11 season. The Huskies barely squeezed by Wagner College in their opener, 24-21, and fell to Illinois, 31-23. They actually held a 10-0 lead on the Illini in the first quarter but were outscored 24-3 in the second.

UConn didn’t play last week, so the Huskies have had two weeks to prepare for their road trip to Bloomington.

Indiana, on the other hand, has six days to right the ship.

43 comments

  1. As the season unfolds, the real question will be how does IU stack up/compare to what I term the tier 3 teams in the conference: PU, MD, Rutgers, Minn, Ill, NW (tier 2-3); then tier 2: Wisky, Iowa, Neb, MSU (tier 1-2); finally tier 1: OSU, Michigan, and Penn State. Regardless of how you want to slice up the league, IU’s level of competency for the time being lies within tier 3. If you look at those teams, there’s no reason to think at this time that IU is as good or could be as good any of them.

    The Hoosiers have 5 quite winnable games in their schedule with UConn, Rutgers, Maryland, Northwestern, and Purdue. Perhaps they go 4-1, and then pull off an upset or two. If they have a healthy Penix, I think this scenario is very much within reach, so I’ll predict a 6-6 or 7-5 season, which would be a step in the right direction compared to the last two years.

    I get a bit of a chuckle out of all of the naysayers who last year proclaimed that Brohm and PU had passed IU in the left lane and weren’t looking back. The Boilers stand at 1-2 without having played a league game yet. Outside of perhaps Illinois, their schedule doesn’t have any gimmes.

    I do wear Crimson colored glasses, and will stand behind Tom Allen as the man to lead IU. His two solid recruiting classes constitute Sophomores and Freshman at this point. Give them some time. He brought in Penix, who has the potential to be something special over the course of this year (if healthy) and the next 3 years, provided he stays. I believe the Hoosiers have solid, up and coming coordinators on both sides of the ball. Right now the tackling looks atrocious but is fixable with 9 games left on the schedule. Perhaps ditto for the O-line. Tom Allen’s winning percentage stands at a clip on par or better than any of his recent predecessors, including Wilson, Lynch, DiNardo, and Cameron. I think he deserves a solid two more years to show what he can do. In that span I predict a 0.500 or better record, and a bowl game win or two. Go Hoosiers!!!

  2. From year to year IU football is forever young since I can remember. Example: “Those young guys are going to get better and better.” Cam Cameron quote after North Carolina game vs IU loss 23 to 6 9/6/1997 in Chapel Hill, NC. I guess the young IU guys did improve because in Bloomington IU lost to North Carolina 42 to 30 on
    9-11/1999. IU now the older guys did get better because they only got beat 12 points instead of 17. IU football forever young.

  3. I can’t speak to previous iterations of the IU football team, but the current team unequivocally is young. Just look at the roster. Look at their most promising quarterbacks: a redshirt Freshman and a Sophomore. Best running back: a Soph. Tight end: Redshirt Soph. Read through the roster: the majority of the players are either Sophomores or Freshman. From IU’s top two back-to-back recruiting classes.

    And look at IU’s coaching staff: all on the young side. First year O and D coordinators with Indiana. There are simply going to be growing pains with this team. At least IU finally has some real commitment to the football program. The strength and conditioning coaches were awarded with handsome salaries to keep them here. The coordinators are decently paid. As I’ve previously written, I wear crimson colored glasses, but IU’s football program is the most promising it’s been since the Mallory years, which were before every one of the current players on the roster were born.

    So go ahead, poo poo forever young. I don’t give a hoot about the past, I learn from it and live in the present and plan for the future. IU’s football program is shining the brightest it has in years. People who don’t believe that simply aren’t paying attention to what is going on with the program as a whole. The players, the coaches, the facilities: everything is being put in place for IU to be successful for the long haul. Those of us who want instant gratification are not being realistic. It will take time. Just ask our neighbors to the south, a basketball school that, egads!, has put together a competitive football team by sticking with the same coach for years before they turned the corner. In the mighty SEC, no doubt. Stoops records in 6 years: 2-10; 5-7; 5-7; 7-6; 7-6; 10-3. The naysayers on this site will be calling for Allen’s head if he posts a losing 5-7 record this year, in his third season as head coach. Which I think would be a huge mistake. I for one remain a stalwart Hoosier fan and don’t understand how so many on this site put themselves through the constant misery of dwelling on how lousy IU’s football program has been and to their thinking, still is.

    I am thankful we have a head coach who is positive and has the best interests of his players as student athletes. We need a good, positive head coach, and have one in Tom Allen. He obviously makes a good impression in the homes of the recruits, as the results speak for themselves. Yes, there’s plenty of room for improvement, but he’s taking the program in the right direction.

    Enough of my Monday morning rant….. GO HOOSIERS!!!

  4. Some good points and they are real. I suppose some of the same points were made in 1925 when the 20,000 seat stadium opened on 10th street and I am sure IU had some young players then. Again, in 1960 IU Memorial Stadium was opened the 50,000 plus seat football field to replace the original Memorial Stadium. New coaches including the Dickens and oh those young players were promising only to get the shaft by the likes of Buckeyes and Wolverines. Then, comes Pont with his young players Isenbarger, Gonso, and Butcher among others including both, offense and defense. Away to the rose bowl they went. George Taliaferro was proud representing the old guard of IU football. Some success for the winning coach Mallory at IU with an overall losing record had several good young players who did get better. Since then it is repeated from year to year those young players will get better and better. It must be noted that so will other teams YOUNG high 3 star and 4 star players get better and better. Forward to 2019 impressive improved facilities and those young players will get better and better as in the case with many other football programs as well. So in 2020 when IU goes to Columbus Ohio and gets beat by 20 the cycle will continue. Look at those young guys at IU and how much they have improved. Last year they got beat by 41. IU improved 3 touchdowns in one year against OSU. IU football forever young.

  5. Hopefully most of the venting from the weekend are now over and we all can look at what occurred Saturday logically. The first thing which should jump out at everyone is the importance of the QB position to ANY football team. For some teams it means a whole lot more than for others. In IUFB’s case, it is essential to have adequate QB play, which it has not had in the prior 2 season. As much as I respect PR as a great hard working player, he is not a B1G caliber QB. Nothing proved the OC issue from last year as false, more than the production drop off Saturday by PR at home instead of Columbus.

    Contrary to popular opinion, OSU has some significant weaknesses which IUFB was not able to exploit. The most glaring weakness is their defensive secondary which IU receivers we able to consistently beat, had the throw been there. I admit I stopped watching late in the 1st half as I had already seen enough. I saw 2 touchdowns missed because the receiver had to pull up and go back for the under thrown ball. Saw several occasions where the ball was getting to the receiver late because there was not enough velocity on the throw giving the DB time to recover and contest the pass.

    With no fear of the passing attack, it was obvious what would happen to the run game and the difficulties the OL would have. When you have 7, 8, and 9 guys in the box, it’s kinda hard to run or block. Some teams have to pass to open the run and this year IU will probably have to. The biggest concern for this season is getting a QB in place who can throw to what appear to be excellent receivers. For those fears of protecting MP, remember, he has a much quicker trigger than PR. That gives you OL the split second extra time they need to hold long enough to get the pass off.

    Everyone knew the IU defense would not match up well against OSU going into the game. The best hope would be to get into a track meet and maybe the defense could slow them down enough. I thought by the end of the first quarter the defense was already wearing out. V13 mentioned this and I saw it too, the team going in without Penix really didn’t believe they had a chance. It didn’t take long for them to lose all hope and basically start going through the motions for the rest of the game. If you are not emotionally into the game the mistakes and bad form are going to naturally follow, which it did. Especially in the area of tackling and special teams errors.

    All in all, not the end of the world for this season assuming adequate QB play can be regained. If not, it is going to be a rough season. And yes, I did notice how that skinny QB beat MSU!!! He makes MP look like the Incredible Hulk!!!

      1. Funny thing BP,
        Those supposed NFL draftees were being routinely beat downfield by IU receivers. Either the OSU secondary is vastly overrated or IUFB has some extremely talented receivers who will be playing on Sunday themselves.

        1. Oh, thinkaboutit…thinkaboutit…thinkaboutit. YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT! Be the name! Live by the NAME!

          Those IU speed demon receivers weren’t beating anyone downfield. The OSU d-backs were just letting them fly by and go deep(if you call “deep” 35 yards beyond the line of scrimmage) because they knew Ramsey could never get them the ball. THINK ABOUT IT!
          Same reason most our basketball opponents stopped closely defending the “deep” 3 ball against our bricklayers. They knew our 5-star couldn’t even hit the side of a barn from 25 feet.
          THINK ABOUT IT!

          YOU DON’T NEED TO DEFEND WHAT WON’T HAPPEN UNDEFENDED.
          Think ….think…think.

  6. Very unethical to say the new star in town was “questionable” up until Saturday’s kickoff in order to simply sell a few thousand more tickets.

    Every year we play one of the Big 3 of the BigTen(OSU, Michigan, PSU) it is “questionable” whether our team will show up.

    Monday morning spin doctors …Michigan State is still not OSU, Michigan or PSU. Lower center of gravity for that skinny AZ State qb. Penix is long and his frail frame is more at danger because of that length. Even purposefully getting to the turf quickly to avoid hits is more the challenge. Penix is also unusually small in bone width(wrists are about as wide as a stapler).

    Forever the IU Football Apologists and their Monday morning spin:

    Yeah, but Purdue looked terrible.
    Yeah, but MSU couldn’t even handle a Pac 12 team
    Yeah, but we’re young. Everyone else has seasoned veterans.
    Yeah, but OSU is loaded this year.
    Yeah, but we still have the winningest conference loser in the history of our losing.
    Yeah, but we can still manipulate this thing to a .500 Rubik’s Cube Bowl.
    Yeah, but the weather was too nice.

    Shootout….? Track Meet? That was KW’s teams and his philosophy. It ain’t happenin’ under Allen. Allen’s specialty was supposed to be defense. I watched running backs on OSU with holes wider than the Red Sea parted by Moses. Allen’s defense should give the game ball to the ref getting in the way of one OSU runner finding such a hole who would have likely gone another 70 yards and to the house….

  7. IU has fallen in the power rankings to the point where they are only expect to go 4-8. Tom Allen was hired at the same time as Jeff Brohm and PJ Fleck. Both Brohm and Fleck have guided their teams to bowl games, are 3-0 against Tom Allen, have top 30 recruiting classes and have recruited top Indiana recruits over Allen and IU. By any objective standard, Tom Allen has under-performed compared to his direct competition. But because we’re IU, the fans are supposed to support a coach who flounders along trying to learn his job while the administration take funds away from football to buy wins in non-revenue sports. The players knew they were outmatched on the field and on the sidelines going into the OSU game. Unless IU is willing to spend the money to hire a proven coach with a proven staff, like Hep or Mallory, the results are not going to change. The same people on this board saying they support Allen probably also supported Wilson, Lynch, Cameron and all the other IU head coaches hired without head coaching experience because they were cheap. The results were/are always the same.

    1. Let me fix that for you. ‘Brohm guided Purdue to the worst, most embarrassing beating in bowl game history’. Auburn scored EIGHT times on their first SEVEN possessions. You read that right.

      To say the jury is still out on Brohm would be generous. They lost to a Nevada team that lost the next week by 71 points. Purdue had a talented QB and and explosive athlete last year and they surprised a few teams. Obviously, that ship has sailed.

      Let’s quit with the ‘Brohm is the next Nick Saban’ rhetoric. Purdue was slightly better than IU the last two seasons. They don’t look better than anybody so far this season.

      1. West Lafayette-to-have-a-banner. They suck. They’ll always suck. We only demean ourselves by using them as any basis for comparisons.

        Here should be our only concerns:

        Basketball: Conference Midwest Elite (2010-19)
        Elite Eights
        Conference Midwest Elite: 28
        IU: 0
        Final Fours
        Conference Midwest Elite: 17
        IU 0

        _________________________________________

        Football versus the Big 3 (Michigan, OSU, PSU) of the Big Ten (1994-2018):

        Big Three: 61
        IU: 1

        ONE victory out of 61 meetings over the last quarter century was courtesy of the aftermath of Jerry Sandusky @ PSU. Without a child molester, we’re 0-62.

      2. Brohm was better than Allen at recruiting overall, better at recruiting Indiana, better at winning, better at upsetting ranked teams, better at getting his teams to bowl games and better (undefeated) at head to head competitions with IU. So lets stop the silly notion that IU is better because they played too poorly to make a bowl game where they might have taken a beating like Purdue.

    2. 123,
      If the IU administration is cheap when it comes to the FB program, it is because the IU fans let them. Let’s not forget the questionable fan support given in the Mallory years when good teams were on the field.

      1. So now we blame the fans for an anomaly? Even OSU and Michigan can have a down year once every century….
        We have 99 down years every century …and we’re going to blame the fans for wrongfully checking out? Seems fair. Hilarious stuff.

        Here’s reality. Isolated school in the hills of Southern Indiana. State has always produced a wealth of basketball talent exceeding anywhere else in the country when factoring per capita numbers. We found a great coach in the 1970’s to utilize what the state was always great in. We were lucky. Nobody in the BigTen comes close to our number of banners. People from the South, the East & West Establishment(mostly tools and media people) rub football in our face because of those banners.

        1. Call me when Alabama or Clemson have 5 basketball banners….

          Crowds are great. College football still remains a joke with nearly 50 bowls(blue ribbons for everyone) and a voting process to get to a Final Four.

          Yankee doodle

      2. IU is cheap and has drained resources from football. And football still is the number #1 money maker for the university. So how much more revenue could football generate for IU if they supported the program with something more than the lowest paid coaching staff in the league?

  8. WEEKEND FUN:
    Football Frolicking in the Park: UConn Once Storied Basketball School vs. IU Once Storied Basketball School to hold a charity event this Saturday. Watch a slow team with scrawny guys battle their ugly football twin brother both never too late to find “breakthrough” in the park.
    All proceeds to go to burying their basketball programs and the needlessly inflated salaries of newly hired b-ball coaches pegged to recapture the glory days of their forgotten men’s basketball programs….once pretty damn good.
    BEER & Fine WHINE will be served. FunZone in each end zone will be set up for the kids. Winner of Frolic in the Park game receives a ladder to cut down Sweet 16 nets. Don’t MISS THE FUN!

  9. I U Top recruiting classes: 2017 Ranked 13 th in Big Ten Purdue 14th 2018 ranked 10th, above Purdue, Rutgers, Northwestern and ILL 2019 ranked 11th above Rutgers, ILL Minnesota. like the earlier post I U is still in the THIRD TIER of the Big Ten, so the top classes maybe for I U, however with the Big Ten are recruiting is in the bottom tier of Big Ten Football.

  10. think, not sure what you were watching Saturday, but OSU’s defensive backs dominated IU’s receivers. It was no contest from start to finish, like varsity playing Junior Varsity. They stripped the ball so often it became a joke. Almost every college football expert predicts that OSU’s entire defensive backfield will play in the NFL in the next two years. OSU’s defensive backs are one of the strengths of their team and they dominated IU’s receivers.

    1. DITTO! Speed kills and Saturday the OSU DB’s speed caused PR to release after the WR’s made their breaks instead of before the break. OSU could trademark the phrase swarming defense. Terrifically fast speed merchants at every position.

    2. Po,
      When the ball and the DB get to the receiver at the same time what do you think is going to happen? Of course there will be a high probability of the ball being stripped. The problem was the ball getting there so slow. The receivers were getting separation but the ball didn’t get there.

  11. I would add physicality kills to “speed kills.” OSU guys simply look like pro athletes….They have the bodies obvious to take their games to the next level.
    We look like a high school team next to the physical specimens on OSU. No strength and conditioning program can make up for the obvious speed and athletic differences present long before an athlete steps on campus.

    I really don’t know how that gap ever gets closed…It hasn’t closed in forty years and shows very little promise now. I thought the smallest inroads came under Wilson because we had some speed and some very physical runners(NFL grade)….We also had a coach who could run a hurry-up without the qb constantly looking to the sideline confused in the communications.

  12. Another note re: IU v. OSU. Over the last 18 years, Michigan has gone 2-16 vs. OSU. If Michigan and it’s aircraft carrier of football support compared to IU’s pt boat support (paraphrasing Glass) can’t beat OSU (their rival at that!), how can it be reasonable to think IU should periodically knock off the football machine/juggernaut that is Ohio State?

    1. Keep breaking out that high-powered “crimson-colored” microscope…..One day you’ll make a renowned discovery of a Hoosier Football single cell beatdown living inside an actual sliver lining membrane.
      You’ll cure cancer first….while blogging!

  13. That would be a fine argument if Michigan didn’t beat other people…They do. We don’t. They also schedule ND . We don’t. We schedule non-conference cupcakes always. They are also in (as in not getting blown out) most games against OSU. We aren’t. We aren’t competitive when OSU gets off the accelerator and into 4th quarter “coast mode.” Our games vs. OSU are usually over by midway through the 2nd quarter.

    But it is an embarrassment for Michigan. Harbaugh will be gone soon if it continues to be an embarrassment.

  14. Bears vs. Packers …is much like Michigan vs. OSU over last couple decades.

    Very slim pickings for the Bears against the Packers ….Both very long histories and iconic figures dating back to the early days of the NFL. The overall head-to-head records are essentially even….spanning nearly 200 meetings (Packers lead 97–95–6).
    But things have swung the Packers way it seems and it really pisses me off.

    IU isn’t “essentially even” against OSU…..at any point in history post Ice Age or dinosaurs.

  15. All-time Series OSU vs. Michigan:

    Ohio State leads series, 51-47-4

    Essentially even overall series(much like Packers vs. Bears in NFL)…although it’s no consolation to Michigan fans now witnessing 7 straight losses to OSU…along with 14 out of last 15 in defeat.

    Consolation for Michigan fans….? They do have more NCAA tournament success of late. OSU hasn’t done much since Oden & Conley were highjacked from Indianapolis by Matta…shortly after we fired Knight.
    https://sports.yahoo.com/news/mike-conley-reflects-on-career-of-friend-greg-oden-143501187.html
    The Michigan bragging rights in NCAA could change now that Beilein is gone.

    1. The Bears? The team that gave up 5 draft picks so they could skip over Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson and take a guy at #2 whose game looks remarkably like Peyton Ramsey’s?

      They gave away the farm to get Troublski. Let’s see how that works out.

      1. I think Trubisky (I like to refer to him as ‘Toorisky”) has a bit more arm than Ramsey…Toorisky’s problem is overthrowing his receivers rather than under-throwing.
        Did we really pass on Sherlock Mahomes, my dear Watson? Ouch.

        We’re probably in the Super Bowl last season without the choirboy kicker getting blessed with doinks. Did you see the last game? Houston, we have a kicker. Do we have a qb? Jury out….He did come through with a final clutch play/throw to get a winning field goal doable.

        And the defense is still very strong led by Mack-Attack. Maybe not as strong as last season…but still very legit.

        Not sure if I’m good with getting rid of Howard as well…But the kid from Iowa does look promising.

        1. Didn’t see the game but I read the NFL stat breakdown. They analyze everything. The pass to set up the winning field goal was his only completion over 20 yards and 40% of his pass attempts were under 6 yards.

          Nobody else in the league, win or lose, came close to such meager numbers that day. His dink and dump numbers are in uncharted waters for this century.

          If he was overthrowing guys they must still be in the huddle.

          1. I watched the game, Chet. He overthrew some guys plenty deep. There is nothing wrong with his arm. Nothing wrong with it last season. His accuracy and his field vision is often the problem. His decision making is also not great. I’m just hoping for the best. All that being said, he has a certain flair and swagger. I like his attitude. He doesn’t sulk like the 140 million dollar man, Cutler.

            Could be worse. We could have landed a sissy like Luck.

            I don’t waste too much time with digging through stats…Stats are usually plucked to favor whatever somebody wants to selectively use to generalize within their own agendas.

            Here’s a stat…Denver had won something like 23 straight home games. Guess who ended that streak and put an end to all that home cookin’? A win…is a win….is a win.

  16. Let’s be brutally honest and admit that, barring something cataclysmic, success for IU against OSU will be being competitive and winning every decade or so…maybe.

    Just like every other team in the Big Ten.

    Honestly, if we had a single win mixed in with the competitive games of the past few years IU would be the most competitive team in the league against the Buckeyes.

    But…we didn’t…so we aren’t.

  17. think, I agree that PR’s passes arrived too slow. I also agree that if Penix had played, we’d have been more competitive against OSU. But OSU’s DBs may be the best collection of DBs in college FB, and all the college FB talent evaluators agree on that point. They are excellent, and IU’s receivers were simply over-matched Saturday. Let’s hope our receivers use the experience as a measuring stick and get better as a result.

  18. Po,
    I not saying the OSU DB’s are overrated, but rather their success may be due to the caliber of QB’s they have faced. Jon & Jeremy had an excellent analysis on the podcast of the problems PR presents for the IU receivers which likely would not occur with MP or some other QB with a strong arm. It would be worthwhile for those struggling to understand why I belabor this issue so often, to listen to their podcast. Basically Jon & Jeremy were saying the same thing in detail that V13 and other far more knowledgeable posters than myself have been alluding to.

    As for how we judge the OSU secondary, I would recommend we wait until they match up against one or the other of the terrible “T” QB’s before handing out the accolades. When I say the terrible “T’s” I don’t mean our very own favorite “t.” I mean T as in Trevor (Clemson) or Tua (Alabama). Assuming the last OSU performance in the BCS doesn’t once again keep them out, it should be an interesting match up. The B1G currently does not have any QB anywhere near the levels of the the two “T” QB’s.

  19. I doubt the OSU d-backs get burned by Penix. Like all positions on OSU, they are many notches above anyone we put on the field. And with Penix’s lack of playing time, I highly doubt he’s a surgeon taking us downfield. His durability will remain the biggest question mark. Lot of physical and big boys on our schedule. Nebraska is improving…Penn State will be plenty challenge. Michigan will likely beat us to a pulp. Not confident Penix can hold up on a team which appears has made little inroads on defensive tenacity, hunger, running game, speed, etc. Nearly every contest will be an uphill batt;e and he may force things. When you force things, a propensity to get injured increases. That increase comes to an already banged up qb coming off knee…and some other injury(shoulder?).

    You keep betting the farm on Penix…That would be fine if we had a farm with a talent fleet …and a team with acreage and depth.

    I believe the score is just as lopsided no matter who’s under center…..OSU is just in another league. They have a very big farm. Their lineman are as big as silos.

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