Duncomb brings nonstop motor to 2021 class

Coaches will describe Logan Duncomb’s motor and it sounds superhuman for a 6-foot-9 center.

More than a few big men run the floor. But he is sprinting to each end, every single time. Most big men rebound. But he goes after every single one. Literally all of them.

“He’s a guy that will go through a wall to get a rebound,” Indiana Elite coach Mark Adams said.

But the newest commit for Indiana’s 2021 class isn’t burning himself out with his extreme want-to. If Archbishop Moeller coach Carl Kremer tries to take Duncomb out, he won’t always go down the bench and slap everyone’s hands. He just seems to linger by his coach, wanting back in.

It’s like that with practice reps, too. He doesn’t want to miss one, even if it’s during the nastiest defensive drill Kremer can think up. Duncomb is ready to go from the moment Moeller arrives at a locker room for an away game.

“I haven’t even hung my coat up yet, and Logan’s fully dressed, head to toe,” Kremer said. “I ask him, ‘Did you wear that underneath your clothes?’ ‘Nope.’ But it’s an hour, hour and 15 minutes before we play, every game, he’s got his uniform on in seconds. He’s always raring to go.”

There is a reason Duncomb is considered a four-star prospect, and it has something to do with his 6-9 frame, his 7-4 wingspan, and his ability to run the floor with ease. But the reason he is a top-100 player nationally, earning offers from IU, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Cincinnati, among others, probably has more to do with his nonstop motor.

That’s the quality that most intrigues coaches about Archie Miller’s latest recruiting get. Duncomb hasn’t yet turned 17, but he plays with the kind of relentless energy that could make him a menace when his body fully matures.

“What he’s doing now, as a 16-year-old — when he’s 19? Holy smokes,” Kremer said. “When he’s 20 years old? When he starts to get that grown man’s body to go with that motor? And his fundamentals improve? I really think Indiana’s got a big-time player.”

Duncomb is already pretty good. He started for Moeller as a sophomore on an undefeated title team. As a junior, he averaged 13.8 points, 8.7 rebounds, and 1.6 blocks per game for a 26-1 squad, which was on its way to the state’s final four before COVID-19 closed the season.

But coaches agree that Duncomb’s best basketball is down the line. That’s just the way it is for big man prospects. And Kremer would know well, having recently coached current New Orleans Pelican forward Jaxson Hayes. He was a senior at Moeller the year Duncomb was a freshman.

Duncomb is, right now, ahead of Hayes’ development curve.

That statement isn’t Kremer guaranteeing Duncomb will be an NBA lottery pick. But the veteran coach is acknowledging how much the young center has been able to defy early expectations, forcing his way onto the court with his will.

Kremer didn’t start Duncomb as a freshman. In the summer heading into his sophomore year, he wasn’t pinned for a leading role, either. That was until the Cincinnati powerhouse matched up with one of the best teams in Michigan during a 2018 summer shootout.

Duncomb was pitted against a well-built center, who should have handled him easily.

“He’s going against a guy who looked like he’d been in the NBA for five years. Just a big five, mature-looking kid,” Kremer said. “Logan is a 15-year-old rising sophomore, and he just got up into the kid, was totally unafraid.”

Because he’s at Moeller, Duncomb hasn’t been the star of the show for his high school squad. He was the team’s third-leading scorer this past season. But he hasn’t needed to score to win. And he doesn’t need the ball in his hands to be productive, because of how he rebounds and runs the floor.

In fact, Duncomb sees a match between how Moeller and IU use their post players.

“How they have bigs run the floor hard, how they play their bigs inside, but also, with some of their bigs, have them come out and shoot and pick and rolls,” Duncomb said. “And how they stress rebounding, especially offensively.”

IU and Moeller are matched in more ways than that. Kremer has known Miller since he was a graduate assistant at North Carolina State. When Miller was at Dayton, Kremer’s son was a team manager for the Fliers. This past season, Moeller alum Michael Shipp was a walk-on for the Hoosiers.

Duncomb has even more connections to IU’s program. Hoosier recruits Trey Galloway, Anthony Leal, and Khristian Lander played on an Indiana Elite team a grade level above Duncomb. So he knows plenty about the program, its history, its future, and what Miller is about as a coach.

Miller’s no-nonsense approach should suit Duncomb well.

“Logan is a kid that just wants to be good, and he wants to be coached hard,” Kremer said.

Adams saw Duncomb’s intensity on the AAU circuit, where he was never overmatched.

“It’s a great fit. Archie will love his tenacity,” Adams said. “I can’t think of a better center in the midwest than him. Really, we played everybody and I never went into a game thinking ‘This center is better than what I got.'”

His long arms and motor just make Duncomb a difficult matchup. Adams can’t recall a time his shot has been blocked, because it’s almost impossible to reach his hook. Duncomb also has the touch to step out to midrange, with the potential to stretch beyond the 3-point line.

His fundamentals on both ends can improve because the athletic foundation is there. Adams coached the Zellers, and Duncomb moves as well as them up and down the floor. He’s a five, but he can switch off and guard fours if need be.

Adams just keeps coming back to Duncomb’s rebounding, though. He just won’t stop going for the ball.

“It’s just a trait you just don’t find very often,” Adams said. “He never gives up on getting the ball. I love his game. I love the kid on and off the court. But to find that tenacity is just hard. You can’t really teach it.”

Following a 2020 class stocked with guards, Miller needed this kind of player in his 2021 class. De’Ron Davis is graduating. Joey Brunk will be gone after next season, and it’s unknown how long the uber-talented Trayce Jackson-Davis will be around past his sophomore year.

Duncomb gives the Hoosiers their next anchor in the middle. With that 7-4 wingspan. With smarts, because he’s top 10 in his class at Moeller.

And with that unmatched motor.

“It’s not like he doesn’t have much more he can get better at. Logan actually does, and he’s working on those things,” Kremer said. “He’s working on his perimeter shot. He’s working on his double moves in the post. And that’s what I like most about him.

“I told Archie this: His upside is ridiculous.”

18 comments

  1. Not really too fond of quotes from Mark Adams…He should really have his mouth taped shut for all the A-Hope projects he hung on Crean and Indiana….If we would have had true backups behind Zeller, we likely have a couple more banners.
    Instead, Crean had to pander to Adams and Indiana Elite, take all the projects, to gain favor with Zeller.

    For all of my criticisms of Crean, he was a bit hogtied by those in Indiana who meddle and run things from beyond the campus. If Crean would have just landed Zeller (and Yogi), and then been able to fill out his roster with the sort of talent he regular sought at Marquette, then history may have been written differently for him. He had to appease Cody by bringing in Cody’s friends (Etherington)…and appease Adams by bringing in guys who were beyond projects. We could have had very solid role players behind Zeller…and complementary pieces far stronger to match-up with teams like Syracuse. Instead, we had Jobe..and Jurkin…and Muniru…and Perea (Dustin Doparik’s next Hakeem the Dream), etc, etc.

    We were are own worst enemy….by being run by AAU meddlers. Crean had to give in because he would have been viewed a bigger failure had he not landed Zeller (even with the baggage).

    Whatever Adams has to say about Duncomb may be true…But Adams has been a big contributor to our stagnancy by hanging us with toe-tripping baggage( primarily dumped on Crean as fungus attached to better recruits) -having no business at a program with the lore of Indiana.

    1. H4H,
      I share your concerns for the damage AAU ball has done to the college game. I think the only way it gets reined in is if the nba takes action over the damage AAU is doing to their game. Lottery picks with worn out bodies arriving into the league will at some point be fully realized. When that finally occurs, the revenue streams into AAU will come to a halt. Not that the nba hasn’t done its fair share of damage to the college game but rather, at least one side of this problem would be removed. Hopefully?

  2. “I told Archie this: His upside is ridiculous.”

    And there’s that word……”upside.” The downside to upside is just how many times we heard about it and rarely saw it realized until a recruit was ready to take it to ….(drum roll) …”the NEXT LEVEL.”

    Can we get some guys who aren’t a elevator shaft in progress….? At then end of the day, everyone has an upside. Too much is made of what you’ll bring tomorrow. Hoosier Basketball has been staring at a lot of tomorrows for a very long time.
    When we were truly dominating the conference and relevant on biggest stages, I don’t recall much selling of tomorrow.
    When they talk of how high the potential elevator shaft, it probably means you’ll soon be getting the shaft.

    Devonte Green still has a ton of upside….It comes between every seven landslides.

  3. Exactly, H4h. Often my posts are directed towards upside for both, men’s basketball and football. Upside has been a staple of IU football tradition…upside that never becomes any sustained reality and is just on the courthouse square bench talk of yesteryear.

  4. NBA doesn’t care and if they they dealt with AAU some other nonsense would be there to take it’s place. The NBA is joined at the hip to add wanderlust to old guys life stirring a witch’s brew that producers gold sparkles to their delight.

    1. Not so fast t,
      It was voices within the nba starting to have concern about their mega buck investments being worn out before they made the league. I don’t still have the article from last fall but there was concern, which of course, AAU ball was furiously trying to tamp down the implications.

  5. Believe nothing NBA or for that matter NFL and MLB and most professional sports has to say. Reason: money and fantasy.

  6. And where are two of the guys in the picture now? Did the billing live up to the reality? Upside denied? Is Hanner playing anywhere? And Georgia has a lot of cool golden oldies songs reflecting upon the its name, but I’m pretty sure basketball does not rule its state university.

    https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=6587668

    As I said….This kid may be everything and a box of chocolates, but I really don’t understand the investment in anything Mark Adams sells. Crean even had to give Adams’ son a job…..to keep all the nepotism rolling (video coordinator?).
    I hope Archie isn’t going down the same track. I was hoping he was going to be his own man…Seems like any coach coming to Indiana has to eventually sell his soul? Why is that? They have to play guys who aren’t that good merely because they’re related to someone playing at the “next level.” When does Indiana get to call the shots again…instead of everyone who has influences far removed from the practice courts?
    Does everyone have to sell their coaching soul just get to get a zit-faced teenager to strap on a jockstrap and wear candy stripes? I always thought the 40 minutes of a game was “playing the game.” Hell, that game doesn’t matter anymore. The only game is the game of kissing ass to keep your job. A world of pushovers and boot-lickers.

  7. ScoopTalk Rollback!
    I would suggest watching this YouTube clip. Listen to the recruiting evaluations…Embrace the giddiness and how the hype was beginning to stir. (beware of the footnote as Gary Harris heads to MSU).
    And where did all the hype of the “Movement” end up? Maybe it’s hidden in Kartje’s big hair…? Osterman’s “Gingerbread” beard? Maybe they hype is still under the dust of Dustin Doparik’s old desk drawer at HT?

  8. This one really makes me laugh…Gosh, almost a decade ago. Where does the time go…?

    Dustin Dopirak says:
    October 31, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    4guards. Don’t get me wrong. Cody Zeller is an excellent player. But Hanner Perea is a genetic freak. There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that he’s a pro. Zeller means a lot symbolically, he’s very polished and he too can make an immediate impact but Perea has a higher ceiling, and in my opinion, he’s a better player. Honestly, you just have to watch him.

    Beware of the “ceiling.” Beware of the “upside.” Beware of the traveling briefcases of hype.

  9. Want a bigger laugh…?

    BeatPurdue says:
    November 1, 2010 at 11:40 am

    Dustin, you did it again. Did you think that Gordon Hayward was pretty good? Well, Austin Etherington is 3 inches shorter, but twice the outside shooter! Austin will rewrite every IU 3-point shooting record during his 4 years at Indiana and have a very long and very successful NBA career! He will shoot 90% or above in FT, 45% or above from the 3-point line, 50% or above for all FG’s, and he is 6’6 or 6’7, athletic, a team guy, plays defense, rebounds, etc. He is an IMMEDIATE IMPACT player, not a role player in a few years!! Go back to PSU football!

  10. Realizing that Duncomb is still just 16 years old. That suggests he may still be growing and could arrive at IU at 6’11” or taller. He’s listed at 240 lbs. now, how much more weight, in the form of muscle, will he have when he arrives on campus 14 months from now? But thinking of the comments posted above, and based on my experience (and the regrets I have) as a father of a college athlete, if I were his parents, I’d make sure this teenager was not over-worked and did not play too much or too often in the coming year. I’d make sure his body got plenty of rest and I would minimize the risk of injuries that result from the extreme physical activity involved with highly competitive sports. The social isolation practices that have shut down sports may be a blessing to young Mr. Duncomb’s still growing body. His joints, connective tissue and spine may benefit from not being allowed to play AAU ball this summer. In fact, if AAU BB is allowed to continue this summer, I’d put this young man on a very limited playing schedule or insist he take the summer off. He’s got his scholarship locked up. There’s nothing more to gain, but much to lose if he plays AAU ball this summer.

  11. Upside isn’t realized without a “high motor” aka “hard work”. If Duncomb has it, we should be pleased with the results in due time.

    I’m more concerned about Lander coming early. Ya’ll know my perspective, I prefer older, more mature players, which are the keys to more banners in the rafters. One more year of high school would serve him well. We’re flush with guards anyhow. I’d hate to see him get here & sit simply because he is behind the jr and sr players who may be better college players than he is right now.

    I really like the pipeline being built. I like the core we’ll be bringing back in ‘20-‘21. Shooting HAS to continue to improve with more reps being taken in more foreign environments than just Cook Hall from March – whenever.

  12. Nice little snippet of research from H4h. It pretty much often actually describes the many upside comments regarding both, men’s football and basketball recruits and yes even Ladies basketball. (There has been measured growth and many of her players improve a lot in IU Ladies basketball program during T.Moren era from almost the very beginning).
    Back to the male sports…often bloggers sound like little kids cheering for the local high school hero to make their college team elite. H4h research shows some conveniently forgotten realities.

    1. There’s always more laughs during this time of cabin fever….

      Hoosier Clarion says:
      May 1, 2014 at 11:01 am

      On Peegs there is a new 4:03 video of Tim Priller to view. I must say if this highlight tape has him playing against the tough Texas 5A class competition Geoff spoke about then Coach Crean has a future shooter/scorer big man. He shoots inside, outside, some mid-range and tip-ins without fear. He displays a proclivity for offense, no bashfulness to handle the ball, work the boards or pass. It is a highlight video almost exclusively of offense. Enjoy.

      Welcome to the world of know-it-alls…..Welcome to Hoosier Scoop.

    2. t- I’ve made plenty of my own inflated projections with ballers. I was just having some fun (especially with Good Ol’ Dustin). Funny how Dustin and some of the HT clan/journalists of old never want to join in any of the conversations here…? Are they moderated and prevented from commenting? Or have they just coldly forgotten all of us and never even consider just dropping by to say hello? Talk about not valuing old customers? Aren’t we basically customers of their collective profession? But I’d like to think we were sort of Hoosier friends, too.

      BeatPurdue should be beating himself with a stick based on his predictions about Etherington breaking Hoosier record books. I thought everyone knew Etherington was a Hoosier because he brought us Cody Zeller. And when Crean was done landing Zeller (and the bannerless Zeller moved on to the NBA), Etherington would soon become expendable.

      Etherington should be the guy with a Skjodt Hall locker room named after him. Without his efforts, we don’t land Zeller and we don’t have any “Movement” ..and maybe not even Yogi Ferrell. Without Etherington we have zero Sweet 16’s in the trophy case from the last decade….and we don’t send the genius to Georgia with his marvelous “outright” BigTen championships.

      It’s odd how true heroes are never recognized. Probably not a kid in the last two decades that wanted more for the candy stripes than Austin Etherington. He was relentless in promoting all the “Hoosier Rising” and bringing the young men (especially his close friend, Cody) with more game his own. And for all that promotion for Indiana, Crean, and his AAU friend who started a “movement” to turn Indiana around, Austin would witness multi-million dollar NBA contracts signed by those who bolted as he become irrelevant and expendable in a candy striped uniform.

      You meant well, Austin. You probably did more for Indiana Basketball than Fred Glass and Crean combined. I would have named the locker room lounge solely after you. But I don’t get a say….And you did have a pretty sweet jumper. Things could have turned out differently….In a parallel universe you’re hitting the game-winning triple on a Championship Monday night…Cody (now a senior) is lifting you up to the heavens on his shoulders. The parade travels down Kirkwood…You are high atop a float waving the Indiana flag and hoisting the trophy. Jumping for joy as you did on so many occasions from a Hoosier bench to inspire your teammates.

  13. And T. Moren may not be the easiest coach to play for because you have to play defense and the way she expects it to be done for the level of talent on the team. Her way is not for everyone but not everyone is her way either. This has resulted in a much higher level of IU Ladies basketball program. They are fun to watch.

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